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When you definitively tell someone they are wrong and you are right, usually it takes more than just having some knowledge of something to prove your case.

I didn't make false claims though did I? It works both ways.

I have already proven my case.
 
By showing some youtube videos and claiming you know for a fact?

And you are offering... what exactly? Let me spell it out for you.

The MacBook Pro with glass has a glossy panel underneath, think MacBook Air dispay.

The MacBook Pro with the Antiglare panel has an antiglare coating, it is not clear as the OP asks.

The two are thus not the same as has been stated here. Evidence for the glossy panel can been seen in the videos. Considering not many people are removing their glass there will not be many sources however it should be clear from the videos that the above is true (assuming you have seen an Antiglare panel).

You two have offered no sources and you're dead wrong. Still awaiting your evidence, you're not even given an explanation of how you "know" what you think you know.
 
So I have to prove you wrong despite you offering NOTHING to support your claim. I offered hard knowledge not simply my perception. See the MacBook Air comments above.
I made a statement based on information that has been posted for years on this forum. You challenged the statement, which is fine. I asked for an official source, so I would have both reason to change my statement and so I would have something to prove any future statements to the contrary. You have so far failed to provide any official proof. I'm not going to start claiming that there's an antiglare coating just because one or two posters claim that there is. As I said, I will cheerfully accept correction, but I prefer something more substantial than a few posters claims. Otherwise, I could find myself in this very same situation, with someone claiming that there is no coating, and asking me for proof. If you don't have any proof, just say so, and it can remain a matter of undocumented perception. I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong. I just want proof.
 
I made a statement based on information that has been posted for years on this forum. You challenged the statement, which is fine. I asked for an official source, so I would have both reason to change my statement and so I would have something to prove any future statements to the contrary. You have so far failed to provide any official proof. I'm not going to start claiming that there's an antiglare coating just because one or two posters claim that there is. As I said, I will cheerfully accept correction, but I prefer something more substantial than a few posters claims. Otherwise, I could find myself in this very same situation, with someone claiming that there is no coating, and asking me for proof. If you don't have any proof, just say so, and it can remain a matter of undocumented perception. I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong. I just want proof.

This has to be a joke...

Tell you what.
1. Go to an Apple Store.
2. Look at a MacBook Air
3. Look at an Antiglare MacBook Pro

Report back.

Figured I would toss this in.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/G/181420/original/mbp17_unbox07.jpg

From our very own: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/739867/

Compare that to the screen under the glass in the video.
 
So you're saying you don't have anything official. That's fine. That's all I wanted to know.

I have posted plenty of evidence for what I am saying (not to mention it just makes sense if you know a damn thing about displays).

You read some things here and accepted it as fact. Who is the joke here?
 
Now now..l

Umm.. Okey..

Still not resolved 100% but i should just go with the hi res anti glare for my architectural study purposes.. ??

If theres minimal 'screen door' effect then ill be happy

If anyone who uses one realised a huge difference in crisp n details between gloss and anti glare pls do tell me soon!

Fyi, where i live right now, there are no anti glare options in apple stores/resellers due to their low demand and ppl rarely buy pricey products online.
 
Umm.. Okey..

Still not resolved 100% but i should just go with the hi res anti glare for my architectural study purposes.. ??

If theres minimal 'screen door' effect then ill be happy

If anyone who uses one realised a huge difference in crisp n details between gloss and anti glare pls do tell me soon!

Fyi, where i live right now, there are no anti glare options in apple stores/resellers due to their low demand and ppl rarely buy pricey products online.

Some people think the AR is pretty aggressive. Apple should have display models for you to look at, even if they aren't in stock.

To add more, the glossy is more crisp. However there are trade offs there (glare). If you can work in a place where glare is minimal, you may like the glossy more.
 
The antiglare screen is exactly the glossy screen with the glass removed. There is no extra coating on it.

This is not true. The Macbook Air is the screen with the glass removed. The LCDs come in two different surfaces, a matte surface and a low-gloss one; then a lot of Apple monitors have glass added to make them shinier.

As to the question: The anti-glare screen for Macs is exactly like what you'd get with any matte display monitor or PC laptop. It looks fine. It's not a fingerprint magnet like the Air's uncovered display, and it's not glossy like the ones with glass over them.

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Umm.. Okey..

Still not resolved 100% but i should just go with the hi res anti glare for my architectural study purposes.. ??

If theres minimal 'screen door' effect then ill be happy

If anyone who uses one realised a huge difference in crisp n details between gloss and anti glare pls do tell me soon!

Fyi, where i live right now, there are no anti glare options in apple stores/resellers due to their low demand and ppl rarely buy pricey products online.

I think the extra alleged "crispness" of the glossy displays is purely fictitious, myself. I think the anti-glare screen is MUCH nicer. Hi-res anti-glare is the best display Apple makes right now. I would absolutely recommend it as the only viable option for work where you will spend significant time looking at the display. (Yes, I know some people don't mind the glare, but eyestrain is real whether you're aware of it or not.)
 
This is not true. The Macbook Air is the screen with the glass removed. The LCDs come in two different surfaces, a matte surface and a low-gloss one; then a lot of Apple monitors have glass added to make them shinier.

As to the question: The anti-glare screen for Macs is exactly like what you'd get with any matte display monitor or PC laptop. It looks fine. It's not a fingerprint magnet like the Air's uncovered display, and it's not glossy like the ones with glass over them.

Your answer will not be accepted.
 
I made a statement based on information that has been posted for years on this forum.

That people post obviously wrong stuff doesn't overcome the fact that anyone can just go look at a macbook air display and confirm that it is not a matte display.

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Your answer will not be accepted.

That may be, but it's nonetheless true. I have, within five feet of me:

* A Macbook Air
* A 17" Macbook Pro with the anti-glare screen
* Two Acer monitors
* A NEC monitor
* An LG monitor
* An ASUS gaming laptop
* A Nintendo DS
* An iPad 3.

I also maintain macs for a bunch of people, so I have used 15" and 17" antiglare macbook pros, a 13" non-antiglare, and a bunch of other things.

LCDs come in two basic varieties; plain (which is smooth and slightly glossy, but not super glossy) and matte (which is very slightly unsmooth, and not at all glossy). You can then optionally put something in front of them, such as glass. Cell phones and the like are nearly always LCD panel behind glass. The DS, being a stylus-based touch screen, has an LCD panel, not matte, without the glass cover; it's basically identical to the Macbook Air for texture, only it's slightly thicker because of the touch functionality. The anti-glare Macbook Pro has exactly the same surface as all those PC monitors (I don't get glossy monitors...) and the PC laptop, and a very very different surface from the Macbook Air or the 13" glossy Macbook Pro my mom uses.
 
I agree with you and have experience with many displays. But that, and evidence on the net, doesn't supersede the status quo for some members.
 
For those who are saying anti-glare option is more expensive. It isn't. It's the same price as the glossy hi-res screen :)
 
Umm.. Okey..

Still not resolved 100% but i should just go with the hi res anti glare for my architectural study purposes.. ??

If theres minimal 'screen door' effect then ill be happy

If anyone who uses one realised a huge difference in crisp n details between gloss and anti glare pls do tell me soon!

Fyi, where i live right now, there are no anti glare options in apple stores/resellers due to their low demand and ppl rarely buy pricey products online.

To try to give you some help...glossy or AG is a personal decision. Some people prefer the colors on the glossy screens. I had a glossy 2008 MBP, and when I ordered my 2011 I got the high-res AG. I'm thrilled with my decision. The glare was always distracting to me, and I think the AG screen look great. Keep in mind that some people have eye strain from the glossy screen, and some get eye strain with the AG screen because of the higher resolution. Your best bet will be to go to an Apple store and try both of them out for a little while. Then decide which you like best.
 
Well I've read that the anti-glare hi-res is easier to read, easier on your eyes, and great if you have plans to use it out doors in the sun.

I personally bought the anti-glare hi res. I hear the screen is great and I read reviews claiming that as well.

http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/question/answers/mac?tqid=QUKCPC9H7272F4CXHACFHK4Y2UT4YYXUY

This might help make your decision :)

from apple.com:
"It totally comes down to personal choice, but in general I would suggest that you buy a matt screen (anti - glare) if you fit the following categories:

* A photoshop pro who needs to see the real colour of things.
* A coder, staring at a dark screen.
* A video editor, you're looking at this thing a lot.

Buy a glossy screen if you are a casual user, you just want the web, e-mail, photos and video to look as nice as possible."

Umm.. Okey..

Still not resolved 100% but i should just go with the hi res anti glare for my architectural study purposes.. ??

If theres minimal 'screen door' effect then ill be happy

If anyone who uses one realised a huge difference in crisp n details between gloss and anti glare pls do tell me soon!

Fyi, where i live right now, there are no anti glare options in apple stores/resellers due to their low demand and ppl rarely buy pricey products online.
 
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The antiglare model has a coating over it, like every other matte screen out there. End of story.

There's no "official" Apple document on their website that explicitly states this. But then that's like expecting Apple to tell you they are using 'type whatever' plastic for their keyboard keys.

It's common sense - they offer a matte version of the screen which, believe it or not, has a matte finish, just like every other matte screen out there.
 
I went glossy hires because i don't use my machine outside, have used other anti-glare displays outside and they aren't usually bright enough anyway, and i'm fastidious about keeping the screen clean.

glass screen is much easier, i don't feel like i'm going to break the LCD when cleaning it.
 
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