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You must know a different set of gun rights "fanatics" than I do (or more likely you don't really know any). The ones I know--like myself--are quite serious about intrusions on our privacy, particularly governmental intrusions.

Donald Trump famously proclaimed that if he were POTUS during the San Bernardino case, he would have come down so hard on Tim Cook his head would be spinning all the way to Silicon Valley. He also called for a boycott of Apple until such time as Apple gave "that security number."
 
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Donald Trump famously proclaimed that if he were POTUS during the San Bernardino case, he would have come down so hard on Tim Cook his head would be spinning all the way to Silicon Valley. He also called for a boycott of Apple until such time as Apple gave "that security number."

Wonder if he would have the same stance today ...
 
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Donald Trump famously proclaimed that if he were POTUS during the San Bernardino case, he would have come down so hard on Tim Cook his head would be spinning all the way to Silicon Valley. He also called for a boycott of Apple until such time as Apple gave "that security number."

Donald Trump is a New Yorker who used to support gun control and couldn't really care less about gun rights except as a means to an end. He made a conversion of convenience because you can't run for president as a Republican without supporting the RKBA. Trump has authoritarian instincts, unlike virtually every gun rights activist I know, most of whom are far more libertarian than the general public.

I personally use a random, LastPass generated alphanumeric password on my iPhone. I don't have anything to hide. It's just a matter of principle.
 
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Page 3 of this thread has been more fun than any music, movie, television show, or comedy I've seen for the last 9 years!
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Donald Trump is a New Yorker who used to support gun control and couldn't really care less about gun rights except as a means to an end. He made a conversion of convenience because you can't run for president as a Republican without supporting the RKBA. Trump has authoritarian instincts, unlike virtually every gun rights activist I know, most of whom are far more libertarian than the general public.

I personally use a random, LastPass generated alphanumeric password on my iPhone. I don't have anything to hide. It's just a matter of principle.

I'm not worried about Donald Trump. He is NOT going to get any secret codes from Apple. Not unless Apple wants to disqualify themselves from all those DOD and aerospace/defense contracts for ipads and iphones! I can tell you that would kill them right there.
 
This is a common best practice. People who follow those usually wind up being a lot less sorry.
LOL its common best practice not to share how many digits your iDevice Passcode is on macrumors?

Its probably best practice to not use your REAL NAME in your username..
Found you on like every single social network with one google search...

haha pls bro tell us about ways to protect ourselves online
 
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LOL its common best practice not to share how many digits your iDevice Passcode is on macrumors?

Its probably best practice to not use your REAL NAME in your username..
Found you on like every single social network with one google search...

haha pls bro tell us about ways to protect ourselves online
It’s almost like I use the same username everywhere on purpose. I’m not worried.
 
It’s almost like I use the same username everywhere on purpose. I’m not worried.
You're not worried about how easy it is for "an agency" to compile all your Personal data from all your social media, and forums..

..but you are giving advice to people about not writing how many digits their iDevice passcode is, using an alias name.

Makes sense.
 
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

I local keysmith enters your house, you can do something about it. If government does it, you can't do anything about it.

That's hilarious.
In the free world, we look to the government to defend our Liberty.
I've never lived in a country with an oppressive, totalitarian regime so what do I know.
 
... DOJ officials reportedly "convinced" there is a way to create a backdoor without weakening a device's defense against hacking.

um. THEY'RE the ones we're trying to hide our data from! The backdoor for law enforcement is the problem, not hackers!
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I've never lived in a country with an oppressive, totalitarian regime so what do I know.

Not yet anyway. The reach of the American government, and its quest for domination is without bounds.
 
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That's hilarious.
In the free world, we look to the government to defend our Liberty.
I've never lived in a country with an oppressive, totalitarian regime so what do I know.
What is hilarious again? If your understanding of freedom is submitting it to the government your perception of "free world" is totally skewed.
 
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If the government in my country, through the legal system, would require me to divulge the contents of my electronic equipment I would comply. Or if a court has decided to grant the government right to in secrecy tap into my information, I would be cool with that too, knowing those rights are not granted easily, and I would LOVE to hear on what grounds (and, I would LOVE the money that would come with the damages they would have to pay if they had no solid grounds for the surveillance). To the best of my knowledge, laws have been enacted that is in the best interest of the entire population of country I live in. The laws have been scrutinized by professional legal personel and is not in violation of the UN Human Rights, nor the EU.
I fail to see why electronics manufacturer should make it impossible to comply.

If the government would use electronic surveillance in breach of current laws, heads would roll, it has happened here before. I don't think any politician would be foolish enough to try that again.
 
Wonder if he would have the same stance today ...

Like most politicians, Trump played to his base, but Trump simply perfected this to an art form. A man with such a deplorable attitude towards freedom and privacy has a job as an elected official in the United States government. There are many voters who oppose gun control and to them, Democrats' support of gun control is an immediate disqualification. To them, one who supports gun control shouldn't have a job as an elected official in the United States. Yet somehow, it was okay for Trump to have the exact same attitude towards privacy and freedom. That logic is mind-boggling.

To me, as an elected official, Trump is a reflection on this country. Therefore, the fact that Trump has a job in the government after making that kind of remark about Apple tells me that to those who voted for Trump and support him, it was acceptable for him to bully a private entity for not doing his bidding as long as Trump didn't take away people's guns.
 
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Like most politicians, Trump played to his base, but Trump simply perfected this to an art form. A man with such a deplorable attitude towards freedom and privacy has a job as an elected official in the United States government. There are many voters who oppose gun control and to them, Democrats' support of gun control is an immediate disqualification. To them, one who supports gun control shouldn't have a job as an elected official in the United States. Yet somehow, it was okay for Trump to have the exact same attitude towards privacy and freedom. That logic is mind-boggling.

To me, as an elected official, Trump is a reflection on this country. Therefore, the fact that Trump has a job in the government after making that kind of remark about Apple tells me that to those who voted for Trump and support him, it was acceptable for him to bully a private entity for not doing his bidding as long as Trump didn't take away people's guns.

Careful with that statement. Many may have voted for Trump may not agree with all his views but with the majority of them. People seldom agree with all views of a politician they vote for.
 
Dude. Get your asymmetric encryption algebra correct before you post.

Example for you: Alice encrypts, Bob decrypts
[ENCRYPT BY ALICE]::= Alice ENCRYPTS using BOB's PUBLIC key
[DECRYPT BY BOB]::= Bob DECRYPTS using BOB's PRIVATE key

Got it? To encrypt, Alice never uses any of her keys. And Bob needs his private key to decrypt.

There is no need for a "private key for each user to be held by a company" at all.

In this scheme, REGARDLESS OF SIGNIFICANT HUMAN FLAWS, "Alice is your device, and Bob is Apple":
  1. Your device ENCRYPTS your PIN using Apple's own PUBLIC encrypting key at the Secure Enclave, where your PIN is stored.
  2. At the vault, Apple DECRYPTS the PIN using Apple's own uber-guarded, PRIVATE decrypting key.
  3. As extra credit, to determine validity of the PIN, your device might sign the encrypted PIN with the device's PRIVATE signing key (stored securely in the Secure Enclave, for each device). For this extra credit validation, Apple also receives at the vault the device's PUBLIC signing key.
Yes, there are flaws -- all human. But educate yourself before you shout "fire!" with conviction.

Did I flame you? No. So don't go firing off like that, mate.
 
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