Is it only me, or is there a lot of hostility on this forum towards Ziphone, mostly beyond the norm. It almost strikes me as political stance, the tone of the words in most posts seem very hostile and almost like they're on a crusade. They come out with a lot of terms, BOOTLOADER permanently downgraded, this is broke, that is broke, I'm sorry but there is the same with the iPlus with the 3.8 bootloader and google maps facilities. OK, so it down grades the Bootloader, which we still don't the future consequences of, but lets get rid of the: Bootloader permanently downgraded crap, really this should be The bootload is downgraded, as of yet there is no way to reverse this. If you follow this Permanently line, then we might have well just said, the iphone was permanently locked. It wasn't because we just didn't know the cracks that could be expoilted at that time. As a little bit of advice, please leave of the hostilities.