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Anti-ZiPhone hostility on this Forum

nickspohn said:
Oh dear....

The method as in, plugging your iPhone in, and then a program does all the work, and can unlock and jailbreak by its own in a few minutes. The Dev Team PURPOSELY did not release this themselves because then Apple could easily look at it and patch over it.
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Huh? The Dev open sourced AnySIM before Ziphone existed, thus allowing apple to patch all the AnySIM exploits. It's not like they have always tried to prevent this.

nickspohn said:
Keep in mind when this was going on, we did not know about 1.1.4 or the SDK release. The fact is Zibri does little, and claims so much for it. No one gives a sh-t if his adsense account money was taken out. It's mostly just a scheme.
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I, as well as 90% of people, don't care if he did little or not, fact is his program works very well and have saved me a lot of headaches.

nickspohn said:
In Zibris release, it wasn't an option to keep or downgrade the BL, it was just a given, and now people are starting to see issues. iPlus and Liberty+ are out to fix what ZiPhone broke, and what it doesn't do.
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I still don't understand people issues with the BL. I mean the supposed problem is that you can't restore to 4.6 and therefore you lose your warranty, but if you are unlocking you have already lost your warranty! Either way, I do think that iLiberty+ is a really good program, but I hate how it is aimed at always bashing Ziphone, when it has worked really good for most of us.
 
If you have a AT&T or other official iPhone contract but still want to unlock then you do have a warranty and as long as Apple don't know your phone was hacked and can't see any evidence of it then your warranty is still valid.

Why would you want to purposely void it by permanently changing the bootloader when you don't need to?

That is the first point!

ZiPhone does cause issues- it can break wi-fi and it can cause the invalid device tree error which is currently not fixable and would make your phone unusable.

ZiPhone has worked for many people - and I am sure it will continue to work for many people but it has a higher chance of seriously damaging your phone than any other method.

Personally I would rather not risk my expensive iPhone any more than I need to by using ZiPhone for unlocking when there are safer alternatives available!

Of course if you want to use ZiPhone to jailbreak then feel free - it works and there are no issues with JUST the jailbreak and/or activation side of it.
 
gwerhart0800 said:
Paul,

My phone was broken and unlocked with ZiPhone (many, many times! :D) and now I have the beta 2.0 firmware loaded. This phone is a work/development phone and I have done all sorts of "bad" things to it and have not have issues with upgrading to the latest firmware.

Curiously, my phone is currently "relocked", so I don't know what I did in all of the manipulation of the phone that might have done that or if loading the 2.0 firmware did it. I will point out, that my phone was purchased in September, so it may still have the 3.9 bootloader. (I currently don't have the phone jailbroken, so I cannot check.)

Geo
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Thanks Geo for the reassurance. Since ZiPhone 2.6 or whatever successfully unlocked my phone and I have no problems, I'm guessing I should not even try Ziphone 3.0 huh? lol
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You wouldn't be that same famous Geo on all the other iPhone hack/development sites, would you? lol
 
beta 2.0

Newbie here, apologies if this is not the right forum;

to get the 2.0 beta , do I have to pay Apple $99 to become a developer?

Re Zibri, I don't see him bad mouthing his peers, only loss of ad revenue.. :rolleyes:
 
I always discourage the use of Zibri's software because of his practices in writing software, doing stuff like setting people's MAC address on their iPhones to a static 00:5A:49:42:52:49 or 0:Z:i:b:r:i (in Unicode). Did he even stop to imagine what kind of problems that will cause with people who unfortunately use the stuff he releases? I doubt it - its just more potential donors. Not to mention his system of always claiming that ZiPhone is not responsible for any problems caused "when used correctly" to try and fool people who don't know better. Its disgusting.

What else has he done? Oh, lets see.
  1. He tries to spread the notion that his software is the most reliable solution out there in an attempt to get more users and potential donors, when the truth is that any of the solutions out there have the potential to seriously screw up your device if not used correctly (only ZiPhone sometimes does it when you do use it correctly.)
  2. He profits off the hard work of others and refuses to give credit, where giving credit where credit is due is core to the community-driving model that iPhone and iPod Touch hacking follows.
  3. He consistently releases software that is poorly written. At one point there was a ZiPhone release that didn't parse command line options correctly (at all?) and ended up performing the wrong actions on the device, sometimes with less than ideal consequences.
  4. He consistently releases software that performs actions without the user's knowledge. Take the scenario where his unlocks downgrade the device's bootloader to 3.9 non-fakeblanked (a dangerous procedure in the first place, with the way he has/had it implemented) when there was no solution at the time that allowed the user to restore their device to its out-of-box state with the 4.6 bootloader. (Luckily now there's Pwnage Tool and Boot Neuter that can return it to 4.6)
  5. His programming practices represent a lack of forethought and basic conceptual design that is absolutely necessary to applications with the potential to brick a $400 piece of hardware. I mean, look at this "wifi fix" he put out. Setting everyone's MAC address so its a static address, his handle in Unicode no less? Good luck doing anything on the network as soon as you get more than one of these devices in the same room. Do you really want a guy that can't even think that through to be performing what is essentially surgery on your device?

The reasons are many, and despite what his proponents may say about how he brought unlocking to the masses, nothing that he offers is any better or different from other solutions out there. ZiPhone represents the bottom of the barrel solution, and should consequently be left alone.
 
Zibri seems to care more about his fame than the well being of his users

ZiPhone 3.0 does nothing it says it does. People are still having Wi-Fi problems, YouTube and Mail still do not work, and Installer was broken for me when I jailbroke with it. I had clean restored 1.1.4 phone with no back-ups.
I jailbroke and unlocked with iLiberty+ and it worked fine.
I didn't find out until recently that ZiPhone downgraded my bootloader to the stock 3.9 bootloader. Luckily, the amazing Dev-Team released BootNeuter and I now have an unlocked 4.6 bootloader.

What was the problem with downgrading the bootloader to the stock 3.9 that wasn't reversible, you may ask?
Well it wasn't really a problem with users with 8GB iPhones, since there are many 8GB iPhones with the 3.9 bootloader and with the 4.6. But, people with 16GB iPhones who unlocked with ZiPhone are stuck. All 16GB iPhones were released after the 4.6 bootloader was implimented. So all of them originally have it.
What would Apple think if you brought a 16GB iPhone in with a 3.9 bootloader?
They would say Goodbye to your warranty.

That's the problem. But fortunately, the dev-team saved us all again with BootNeuter and Pwnage.

Zibri and Nate True need to start a club. "iPhone Dev-Team Rejects".
I bet they'd have fun.
 
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I support ziphone, bit from the looks of what I read, I may not anymore :/
 
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