Do you think a "massive" amount of Windows boxes go down from this stuff?
OSX is not a better "core OS" Than Windows 7.
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Antivirus Firm Warns of New Mac OS X Spyware Application
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Do you think a "massive" amount of Windows boxes go down from this stuff?
OSX is not a better "core OS" Than Windows 7.
what? details please
How is this even possible? How does this work exactly? Is the legitimate author's software infected? How did that happen/do they know?
Or is some separate side 'app' downloaded in the process of downloading the chosen app? How could that happen unless the downloads site has been compromised?
Or are we just looking at a situation where a trojan masquerading as a legitimate app has been thrown up on several download sites and people are simply downloading and installing something they hoped was useful?
We need a lot more information here.
How is this even possible? How does this work exactly? Is the legitimate author's software infected? How did that happen/do they know?
Or is some separate side 'app' downloaded in the process of downloading the chosen app? How could that happen unless the downloads site has been compromised?
Or are we just looking at a situation where a trojan masquerading as a legitimate app has been thrown up on several download sites and people are simply downloading and installing something they hoped was useful?
We need a lot more information here.
Yeah, worse than ever. (A worm is a virus, right?)
I don't know if it's "more" now, but it's certainly "scarier" these days. Read that article and let that sink in.
Here we go again, all the trolls come out of the woodwork with the age long argument that Mac's small user base is the reason there are so few viruses etc. etc. blah. blah. blah. people really need to read more and not watch soooo many youtube videos!!! 
Great virus buy the way! really old school!! (admin password required)
Great virus buy the way! really old school!! (admin password required)
True, but I'm still waiting for a virus problem with OS X to actually occur in the wild. I'm not talking about software that forces you to install something before it can work, but something that automatically works in the background with no notice to the user.
Still waiting...
From the malware description page on Intego's site:
"This application, which has no interface, runs as root (it requests an administrator’s password on installation) with full rights to access and change any file on the infected user’s computer."
In other words, this is the same as every other piece of OS X malware announced by AV software companies--i.e., a non-story.
And to those of you blathering on about the market share thing... please refer to the link in my sig. I wrote that for you, two years ago, and it's still relevant.
"This application, which has no interface, runs as root (it requests an administrator’s password on installation) with full rights to access and change any file on the infected user’s computer."
In other words, this is the same as every other piece of OS X malware announced by AV software companies--i.e., a non-story.
And to those of you blathering on about the market share thing... please refer to the link in my sig. I wrote that for you, two years ago, and it's still relevant.
No I was arguing the point that install base isnt as huge as he is making it seem.
OSX does have a better core OS than Windows 7. Unix vs NT.
Apple has tried to get 3rd parties to avoid using installers for pretty much everything, for reasons like this. Installers are not transparent to the user, and hide what they do, making it easier to slip malware in because they aren't transparent, and the user simply has to trust it with root privs. Of course, it'd help if Apple wasn't using installer packages for every app they shipped on a piece of spinning plastic.
If I have to break out Pacifist for a screensaver, or MPlayer (the official distro for OS X has an effing installer just to copy the .app into /Applications), or really anything that doesn't need one, then I simply don't install it. The problem is that the average user doesn't understand the difference between something that needs it and something that doesn't. Another problem is devs who port to the Mac are inclined to just make an installer/package, because that is the world Windows and Linux live in.
It's a trojan because it pretends to install a marketing tool, and instead installs spyware. Sounds like a gift horse bearing warriors in it's belly to me.
What is there to patch here, except maybe a bunch of devs who stupidly (or intentionally) included malware in their installer package, that shouldn't have even been an installer package?
I hate when MacRumors puts this CRAP on the ***** FRONT PAGE. This is not PAGE ONE news, and the last time they did this a ton of tech sites referred to the article claiming "MACS ARE NOT SECURE!" blah blah blah.
C'mon, MR — you're better than this. This is not news that needs to be on the front page. This, along with a lot of other crap that has been posted lately, should be on Page 2. It's there for a reason. This is probably just a ploy by MR to get more hits. Wonderful.
C'mon, MR — you're better than this. This is not news that needs to be on the front page. This, along with a lot of other crap that has been posted lately, should be on Page 2. It's there for a reason. This is probably just a ploy by MR to get more hits. Wonderful.
I saw this article listed on my iGoogle page, whilst sitting at my Win7 PC. So, I clicked on the link.
I'm greeted with a message telling me that the resident malwarebytes program I have running blocked malicious portions of this website from loading. Upon inspecting the log, it says that '74.86.132.183' has been blocked.
What gives?
I'm greeted with a message telling me that the resident malwarebytes program I have running blocked malicious portions of this website from loading. Upon inspecting the log, it says that '74.86.132.183' has been blocked.
What gives?
Attachments
Will 10.6.4 prevent users from installing things?
Perhaps someone doesn't know Snow Leopard blocks certain known malware.
Perhaps someone doesn't know Snow Leopard blocks certain known malware.
Really? Even after putting in a root password?
Even so there are still plenty of Tiger and Leopard users out there.
OS X causes the SUN TO LEAVE ITS ORBIT.
Not true, of course, but let's see if the MacRumors trolls repeat this as fact just as they repeat the OS X "finally" has a virus problem lie. You would think they would look up the word "finally" to see why it makes no sense for them to keep using that word every single year.
Not true, of course, but let's see if the MacRumors trolls repeat this as fact just as they repeat the OS X "finally" has a virus problem lie. You would think they would look up the word "finally" to see why it makes no sense for them to keep using that word every single year.
Yes, it is. Like it or not. Windows is still hashed together with ancient code and it never went through a highly secure rewrite. Microsoft wanted to do this with Longhorn, but you might recall that they scaled back again and again and again until Windows users received that hacked together pile known as Vista. OS X, on the other hand, was built from the ground up on the extremely stable and secure UNIX architecture and has since been refined time and time again through updates.
Also, Apple is not tied to other hardware manufacturers and the corporate world, both elements which prevent Microsoft from innovating, repairing, and progressing as they might like. Apple can obsolete OS elements with little trouble. And then there are factors like the open source nature of so much code behind OS X, the fact their browser is disconnected from the OS (rather than integrated), and so much more. I could go on. Heck, another major difference is the cloudy corporate structure of Microsoft, one which their own employees have written about so many times, and the ruthless dictator-like structure of Apple (which allows them to get more done, faster).
What you say just isn't true.
And also, the line so many people share about Windows being 'just as secure as Mac' is bollox. Mac users only get to break their computers by doing something incredibly stupid (mucking around inside system folders and deleting things after entering the password, for example). Windows users get to break their computers just by browsing the internet. You can say otherwise, but the thriving market built around protecting users from these threats, Microsoft's repeated efforts to keep systems updated and educated about malware, and the aftermarket that profits so strongly from cleaning up these infections disagrees with you.
It just promotes havoc.. If it was reddit it would have been down voted by now.
Huh? You're trying to argue a LARGE topic here by throwing out a few sentences. This topic of "why Macs have basically been less prone to security risks from 1992-2008 than Windows" has been talked in great length in other threads on this forum, other forums, and well-published magazines and newspapers. There is no way to summarize it. Please go find those threads if you really want to understand the technical and NON-technical reasons why systems are prone to security attacks...and why some systems more than others.
And no, who ever said that as soon as Mac personal computer market share hit 51% that they would all do down? The simpler statement would be that, as long as malware/spyware/viruses are legal/hard-to-punish in many countries they will continue to exist and evolve...and...they will continue to be written to affect the most widely adopted platforms/systems. Currently, if you were a malware/spyware/virus programmer, you would want to annoy the most people for your efforts. Therefore, hit the Windows platform. Next up would likely be a tie between Mac and Linux. And I believe that right now we are starting to see evil programmers take aim at the Mac as the Mac platform gains adoption. It's Marketing 101...if you're selling air conditioners, you're probably not going waste your budget and advertise in Alaska.
ok people, let's talk about detecting it
How to detect it?
I have read on a spanish Mac site a comment about to detect it by running a terminal command, Netstat.
Comments?
How to detect it?
I have read on a spanish Mac site a comment about to detect it by running a terminal command, Netstat.
Comments?
It has nothing to do with computer preference, it's a n00b thing on both platform. And viruses target the least experienced users anyway.
LINUX? you really need to read twice before posting
Yeah...busy day...but the fun part here is that I did not edit my original post...the flames were just coming too fast so I'll just sit here and watch people's veins boil because they can't read down a few posts to see my typo apology.
Actually there are a couple of interesting Screen Savers for the Mac... "Escher" comes to mind.
I started to play with Quartz composer a while ago... I wonder what's the counterpart on the other side.
does anyone even on windows do screensavers? Everything I have even the plasma tv goes to sleep mode or dark. why waste the power.
Looks like it is hosted at SoftLayer Hosting.
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Wow. Try to do at least minimal research (I dunno, like http://www.apple.com) before making silly remarks.
Linux != Unix