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I will check it asap. Just installing iOS 17 on iPhone/iPad (Switzerland here, but devices purchased in Germany)
 
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shouldnt matter as both are part of EU

let us know !
Never ever tell that to a Swiss person. :D We want all its benefits though, but we hate it and will never be part of them. Hopefully. (Just kidding, many people don't know that we're not part of EU haha).

But yea, the devices are mostly "ZD/A" (France/Germany) or "TY/A" (Italy).
 
Never ever tell that to a Swiss person. :D We want all its benefits though, but we hate it and will never be part of them. Hopefully. (Just kidding, many people don't know that we're not part of EU haha).

But yea, the devices are mostly "ZD/A" (France/Germany) or "TY/A" (Italy).
hahahaha

oh wow I didnt know you were only part of the market, but not actually EU, i'm that bad in geo-politics
 
It will be linked to your Apple ID’s region - not the origin of the device.
But you can change the region any time? I often do that when I visit a new country and need their local apps. Disable family sharing -> change country -> load apps -> change country back to home country -> enable family sharing. “Purchased” foreign apps are still there and able to download. So I think it’s device based as they do in Japan with shutter sound or in Saudi Arabia with FaceTime block.
 
But you can change the region any time? I often do that when I visit a new country and need their local apps. Disable family sharing -> change country -> load apps -> change country back to home country -> enable family sharing. “Purchased” foreign apps are still there and able to download. So I think it’s device based as they do in Japan with shutter sound or in Saudi Arabia with FaceTime block.
Is it true it’s locked for Japan ? I live in Japan and when I moved here I had a Pixel 6, when I arrived the shutter sound was force turned on. But I bought my iPhone here. I’ll be back in the EU in august and really hope I can sideload once back there.
 
Is it true it’s locked for Japan ? I live in Japan and when I moved here I had a Pixel 6, when I arrived the shutter sound was force turned on. But I bought my iPhone here. I’ll be back in the EU in august and really hope I can sideload once back there.
Actually I can confirm the Japan shutter thing is related to location and not device ID or App Store country. So maybe you’ll have to physically be in the EU ?
 
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I can confirm it’s not there at all. Not even mentioned in the developper settings or anywhere else. It would be so weird if they introduced it with a point version, this feature is more important than anything they showed us on stage
They're not required to implement it until next year so it seems they will take their time.
 
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Yeah, it looks they really want to limit as much as possible. I guess that’s one of the reasons why they dropped support of iPhone 8 and X
 
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Is it really EU only?
Probably will be, but here in the EU it hasn’t been enabled as of now… Neither sideloading nor any other mandated function like interoperable messaging, either that or they made it real hard to find how to make it work…
 
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has any dev based in EU installed ios 17 yet ? how does sideloading work ?
In iOS 17.0 (21A5248v) sideloading is not possible in the EU, neither is the possibility for interoperable messenging or installing third party voice assistants… However following the DMA Apple will have to open up these features before March the 6th
 
Actually I can confirm the Japan shutter thing is related to location and not device ID or App Store country. So maybe you’ll have to physically be in the EU ?
You sure? I visited Tokyo in March and I can’t remember having shutter sound active.

@casvdijk I think as Apple didn’t mention it side loading will arrive with 17.2 or 17.3 (which is the March update)
 
In iOS 17.0 (21A5248v) sideloading is not possible in the EU, neither is the possibility for interoperable messenging or installing third party voice assistants… However following the DMA Apple will have to open up these features before March the 6th
Thanks for these detailed informations buddy !

How about other browsinf engines, is it still WebKit only ? Or do you have blink, gecko ? If you could try chrome and Firefox nightly ;)
 
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