Any fix for the random pink screen reboots on the new M1 macs??

[swealpha]

Hello!

Is there any fix for the random pink screen crash that seem to happen on almost all Macbook Air M1 2020?

My friend has this issue with latest MacOS (no external devices), and also alot of people on the internet has this issue too. This is scary!

I was going to buy the MBP 16" M1 pro, but now i think i will wait for a new MBP 16". I mean, I cant take the risk to use my budget on this and then be left on a ****** hardware-failure device that can not be prooven. I think its a error with the display cable and guessing Apple will not be able to change ALL the devices already sold.



Would love to hear what you guys think about this!?

I like Apple, but wish they tested a lot better.

 

[cmaier]

Hello!

Is there any fix for the random pink screen crash that seem to happen on almost all Macbook Air M1 2020?

My friend has this issue with latest MacOS (no external devices), and also alot of people on the internet has this issue too. This is scary!

I was going to buy the MBP 16" M1 pro, but now i think i will wait for a new MBP 16". I mean, I cant take the risk to use my budget on this and then be left on a ****** hardware-failure device that can not be prooven. I think its a error with the display cable and guessing Apple will not be able to change ALL the devices already sold.



Would love to hear what you guys think about this!?

I like Apple, but wish they tested a lot better.

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This does not happen to ”almost all” M1 MBA’s. Hasn’t happened even once to the two in this house. Also never happened with my M1 MBP 16”.

 

[yitwail]

My friend has this issue with latest MacOS (no external devices), and also alot of people on the internet has this issue too. This is scary!

I was going to buy the MBP 16" M1 pro, but now i think i will wait for a new MBP 16". I mean, I cant take the risk to use my budget on this and then be left on a ****** hardware-failure device that can not be prooven. I think its a error with the display cable and guessing Apple will not be able to change ALL the devices already sold.

I've never heard that this is a hardware problem. The pink screen can indicate kernel panic, which is a software issue. Find out what app your friend is using when this happens, and if it's an app you don't use, then I think you have nothing to worry about. For what it's worth, I bought an M1 MBA 2 months ago, and haven't once seen a pink screen, and I'm a web developer so I use it a lot.

 

[mi7chy]

I think it's related to having hardware accessories plugged in. I never do except for occasional USB-C to HDMI and never experienced PSoD (Pink Screen of Death).

 

[quarkysg]

Well, I have a 3.5" USB3 HDD permanenently attached to my M1 Mini as a Time Machine backup and I have not seen the pink screen either.

 

[mi7chy]

Here's a long thread on PSoD. Last post said it was resolved by replacing hub while post before said updating to Monterey resolved it. I've been on the Big Sur train and never experienced it so for my case it's not the OS version.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-mac-mini-keep-crashing-and-then-restart.2300484/page-6

 

[pshufd]

Hello!

Is there any fix for the random pink screen crash that seem to happen on almost all Macbook Air M1 2020?

We have an M1 MacBook Air, bought almost a year ago, M1 mini, bought last July, an M1 PRO MacBook Pro 16, bought on launch day, and an M1 PRO MacBook Pro 14, bought in December. None of them have the problem that you are describing and they are all used daily.

 

[ian87w]

In short, buy Applecare. The M1 Macbooks have so many things integrated that it would be difficult to repair. Just get Applecare and get a peace of mind for 3 years.

 

[pshufd]

In short, buy Applecare. The M1 Macbooks have so many things integrated that it would be difficult to repair. Just get Applecare and get a peace of mind for 3 years.

I've never purchased AppleCare and have been using Apple Computers since Apple ][ days.

 

[Internaut]

Would love to hear what you guys think about this!?

I think it has never happened to me.

 

[ian87w]

I've never purchased AppleCare and have been using Apple Computers since Apple ][ days.

More power to you. With the way things being less and less user accessible and more and more integrated, and add on how Apple getting stricter on their repair programs and more likely to cut corners (eg using a cable that used obviously too short), you might want to rethink about it. People tends to laugh and ignore insurance until they need one.

I would buy an extended warranty on any gadgets that's almost $1000 or more. Repairs are no longer cheap like the olden days where components were big and separated, and things werw more repairable.

 

[diggy33]

Deployed over 300 M1 MacBook Air/MacBook Pro devices at my last company, and no users ever reported this issue. I own a 13-inch M1 MacBook Pro, and 16-inch M1 Pro, and havent had this come up either. Not discounting other user reports, but I've not run across this professionally or personally.

 

[pshufd]

More power to you. With the way things being less and less user accessible and more and more integrated, and add on how Apple getting stricter on their repair programs and more likely to cut corners (eg using a cable that used obviously too short), you might want to rethink about it. People tends to laugh and ignore insurance until they need one.

I would buy an extended warranty on any gadgets that's almost $1000 or more. Repairs are no longer cheap like the olden days where components were big and separated, and things werw more repairable.

I haven't needed computer insurance in 45 years.

I used to own Berkshire Hathaway A shares. Warren Buffett wrote a shareholder letter explaining how the insurance business is a Heads I Win, Tails You Lose business. It only affirmed to me that insurance for electronics products is a bad idea. If you're prone to breaking your electronics, then I suppose that it's useful but you're basically putting yourself into a risk-pool with similar people.

 

[ian87w]

I haven't needed computer insurance in 45 years.

I used to own Berkshire Hathaway A shares. Warren Buffett wrote a shareholder letter explaining how the insurance business is a Heads I Win, Tails You Lose business. It only affirmed to me that insurance for electronics products is a bad idea. If you're prone to breaking your electronics, then I suppose that it's useful but you're basically putting yourself into a risk-pool with similar people.

If repairs are cheap and can be done by many shops like the old days, I'm with you.
Problem with current devices, especially Apple, is that not only they're glued, soldered, and everything is not user accessible, even those who wanted to repair them are having a hard time due to Apple being anti-repair.

Again, people laugh at insurance until they need it. Warren Buffett doesn't need insurance because he has enough money to cover any cost many times over. I don't. These electronics are not cheap, and they are not cheap to repair either.

 

[pshufd]

If repairs are cheap and can be done by many shops like the old days, I'm with you.
Problem with current devices, especially Apple, is that not only they're glued, soldered, and everything is not user accessible, even those who wanted to repair them are having a hard time due to Apple being anti-repair.

Again, people laugh at insurance until they need it. Warren Buffett doesn't need insurance because he has enough money to cover any cost many times over. I don't. These electronics are not cheap, and they are not cheap to repair either.

Warren Buffett sells insurance and he's grown a massive empire on that base. Where do you think all of the profits from GEICO come from? I've owned Manulife Financial for decades and enjoy the quarterly dividends from all of the people buying insurance. It's not that Buffett needs insurance - it's that he takes the other side of the insurance business - and makes a ton of money at it. I'd also rather take the other side of the insurance business.

 

[Bodhitree]

Btw, had my 24” M1 iMac for a good six months and had zero problems with it.

 

[swealpha]

Wierd that ALL in this thread expect me didnt have this issue.

But when i am googling about it ALL seem to have it...

Maybe it has to do with OLD MacOS versions? Or different "quality" in different worlds?

I am located in Europe, do anyone know if all the devices are manufactored in the same factory?

 

[swealpha]

7 months ago someone wrote "Apple support said they are already aware and I need to wait for the next MacOS update."

This is how I feel:
I am actually terrified of buying an M1 MacBook after this ? it could be a defective unit or a bad cable or a larger issue that Apple will start seeing more and more and then politely ignore and make the customer pay extra for a fix ?

(like they did with the bigger sizes 2016 Macbook pros of when the Flexgate cable ******** happened which started as an odd lightstage effect at the bottom of the display and then ended up with a full dead black screen)

One more thing:
I remember some years ago when i bought a iMac and bought more GB ram, then when i got the iMac it sounded like a angry bird. The "tech" guy who added the ram had obviously not made a good job. It was a pain to wait months to get it fixed. It ended with me selling the iMac. After this I never change the specs when ordering a apple computer because of the risk of getting the job done badly. Not worth it.

 

[cmaier]

Wierd that ALL in this thread expect me didnt have this issue.

But when i am googling about it ALL seem to have it...

Maybe it has to do with OLD MacOS versions? Or different "quality" in different worlds?

I am located in Europe, do anyone know if all the devices are manufactored in the same factory?

If you google “monkey attacks” you will only find links to pages about monkey attacks. Your method is unscientific.

 

[MacCheetah3]

Wierd that ALL in this thread expect me didnt have this issue.

I do not think/see anyone saying that. Others seem to be trying to inform you there’s no obvious M1 (Pro/Max) hardware design flaw, etc.

This is how I feel:
I am actually terrified of buying an M1 MacBook after this ? it could be a defective unit or a bad cable or a larger issue that Apple will start seeing more and more and then politely ignore and make the customer pay extra for a fix ?

Look closer at the search results screenshot you posted originally. Not all of them are M1 Macs. In fact, I previously had a 2012 Mac mini upgraded to macOS Catalina that pink screened a few times with one instance including an unexpected reboot. I never figured out the problem, although, if I put the Mac to sleep immediately after seeing the pink then woke it up things were back to normal.

The pink screen can indicate kernel panic, which is a software issue.

I do not know for certain, but this seems just as plausible as faulty hardware.

(like they did with the bigger sizes 2016 Macbook pros of when the Flexgate cable ******** happened which started as an odd lightstage effect at the bottom of the display and then ended up with a full dead black screen)

One more thing:
I remember some years ago when i bought a iMac and bought more GB ram, then when i got the iMac it sounded like a angry bird. The "tech" guy who added the ram had obviously not made a good job. It was a pain to wait months to get it fixed. It ended with me selling the iMac. After this I never change the specs when ordering a apple computer because of the risk of getting the job done badly. Not worth it.

Indeed, products have flaws. However, you are focused/dwelling on that aspect.

If you google “monkey attacks” you will only find links to pages about monkey attacks. Your method is unscientific.

If you look, you can find plenty of thrilled/happy/satisfied customer experiences/reviews as well — take many of the responses in this thread as an example.

 

[pshufd]

7 months ago someone wrote "Apple support said they are already aware and I need to wait for the next MacOS update."

This is how I feel:
I am actually terrified of buying an M1 MacBook after this ? it could be a defective unit or a bad cable or a larger issue that Apple will start seeing more and more and then politely ignore and make the customer pay extra for a fix ?

(like they did with the bigger sizes 2016 Macbook pros of when the Flexgate cable ******** happened which started as an odd lightstage effect at the bottom of the display and then ended up with a full dead black screen)

One more thing:
I remember some years ago when i bought a iMac and bought more GB ram, then when i got the iMac it sounded like a angry bird. The "tech" guy who added the ram had obviously not made a good job. It was a pain to wait months to get it fixed. It ended with me selling the iMac. After this I never change the specs when ordering a apple computer because of the risk of getting the job done badly. Not worth it.

If you want it done right, do it yourself. Presuming you know how to do it right and have the inclination and tools to do so.

 

[jdb8167]

I remember some years ago when i bought a iMac and bought more GB ram, then when i got the iMac it sounded like a angry bird. The "tech" guy who added the ram had obviously not made a good job. It was a pain to wait months to get it fixed. It ended with me selling the iMac. After this I never change the specs when ordering a apple computer because of the risk of getting the job done badly. Not worth it.

You do understand that build to order is still done at manufacturing time at the factory? You can buy a 16" MBP and upgrade to 32 GB and the RAM isn't added after manufacturing but done the same way as if you ordered a 16 GB version. Same for an SSD upgrade. All soldered on the motherboard. Other than the 2019 Mac Pro, all Macs are now made this way. As a matter of fact, you can find many complaints on these forums about exactly that.

 

[pshufd]

You do understand that build to order is still done at manufacturing time at the factory? You can buy a 16" MBP and upgrade to 32 GB and the RAM isn't added after manufacturing but done the same way as if you ordered a 16 GB version. Same for an SSD upgrade. All soldered on the motherboard. Other than the 2019 Mac Pro, all Macs are now made this way. As a matter of fact, you can find many complaints on these forums about exactly that.

That's why the Intel mini and iMac may still be of interest to customers. You can change storage and RAM with some effort.

 

[jdb8167]

That's why the Intel mini and iMac may still be of interest to customers. You can change storage and RAM with some effort.

RAM on the Intel Mac mini and 27" iMac but storage is not upgradeable. Even though there is a connector on the 4TB & 8TB versions of the 27" iMac, OWC says it still isn't really upgradeable since you can't get the SSD—I guess it isn't standard NVME.

I consider both the Intel Mac mini and 27" Intel iMac obsolete and wouldn't recommend anyone buy them for any reason now.

 

[pshufd]

RAM on the Intel Mac mini and 27" iMac but storage is not upgradeable. Even though there is a connector on the 4TB & 8TB versions of the 27" iMac, OWC says it still isn't really upgradeable since you can't get the SSD—I guess it isn't standard NVME.

I consider both the Intel Mac mini and 27" Intel iMac obsolete and wouldn't recommend anyone buy them for any reason now.

I didn't know that you couldn't upgrade storage in the most recent versions. They are desktops so you could just hang it off a port.

I bought a 2010 iMac 27 today and a 2014 iMac 27 three weeks ago. They are very nice systems for next to nothing. I suspect that the 2020 Intel iMacs will drop in price pretty sharply when the Apple Silicon models come out and make attractive buys. There was an 18-core iMac Pro with 64 GB of RAM and the high-end video card for sale for $1,900 in my area and I contacted the seller and decided not to but I should have pulled the trigger. That's one machine that beats even the M1 MAX.