any good antivirus software Recommendation for macbook pro?

[squeakr]

if it was sooo wrong these sites would not exist, its not like you need to go through hoops and back alleys to access a torrent site

Just because things exist and are easy, doesn't make them right or just. It is easy to steal cable, just climb the pole and hook up a drop to your house. Heck the poles and lines rate there and there is nothing to really stop you (heck they are even on my property), so it must be okay, correct???

 

[DWBurke811]

You pirate a Ferrari the same way you do software, by stealing it.

And something being easily accessible doesn't make it legal(or "right," but I'll stick with legality) at all; that logic doesn't hold up at all, like not even a little bit.

EDIT: The cable example is a good one, I was going to say how easy it is to buy oxys or powder. That doesn't make it legal to do so...

 

[heisenberg123]

Just because things exist and are easy, doesn't make them right or just. It is easy to steal cable, just climb the pole and hook up a drop to your house. Heck the poles and lines rate there and there is nothing to really stop you (heck they are even on my property), so it must be okay, correct???

no its not right its still stealing but if they wanted to stop torrent sites they would shut them down like they shut down napster.

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You pirate a Ferrari the same way you do software, by stealing it.

And something being easily accessible doesn't make it legal(or "right," but I'll stick with legality) at all; that logic doesn't hold up at all, like not even a little bit.

nobody said it wasnt stealing

 

[DWBurke811]

whatever, if you're too cheap to just buy the software that's your problem. it's not like anything is that expensive; and if you say CS5 as an example, if it's too expensive for you then you don't really have any reason to have it.

 

[heisenberg123]

whatever, if you're too cheap to just buy the software that's your problem. it's not like anything is that expensive; and if you say CS5 as an example, if it's too expensive for you then you don't really have any reason to have it.

i dont pirate software because i want it to work and i want the support but movies sure I do most movies are not worth the rental price and you often watch half a movie call it crap and turn it off

 

[sweetbrat]

i dont pirate software because i want it to work and i want the support but movies sure I do most movies are not worth the rental price and you often watch half a movie call it crap and turn it off

You can try to justify it any way you want to, but the fact is that you're stealing something because you don't think it's worth the price that people are asking. Just because you feel something is a rip-off, it doesn't give you the right to steal it. And just because it's easy to steal it, that doesn't make it right, either.

 

[heisenberg123]

You can try to justify it any way you want to, but the fact is that you're stealing something because you don't think it's worth the price that people are asking. Just because you feel something is a rip-off, it doesn't give you the right to steal it. And just because it's easy to steal it, that doesn't make it right, either.

i agree its not right

 

[sweetbrat]

Why spend hundreds of dollars on MS Office and MS windows when Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar company and they don't just benefit from selling their products? Why buy adobe and macromedia products when the price is off the roof?

Recently i downloaded MS office 2011 for Mac and installed it on 5+ system and i'm glad i did. I am not going to give apple $150 dollars for MS office, period. Do you think they will go bankrupt if people decide not to buy MS office or Iworks and etc? LOL? They overcharge for all their products and this is one way consumers like us can benefit off something smaller.

So because a company is a multi-billion dollar company, that means they should charge you less for the products they're producing? Interesting logic. And yet you own a MacBook Pro and an iPhone. Did you just walk into an Apple Store and steal them? Because, you know, Apple is a multi-billion dollar company, too, so that means they should be selling stuff cheaper. And if it's ok to steal software from Adobe and Microsoft, why isn't it ok to steal hardware from Apple? Either way, you're stealing a product that a company invested a lot of money in.

If you can't afford or don't want to pay for something, find an alternative. If you don't think a steak dinner is worth $30, do you go to the store and just steal a steak? Nope...you find something cheaper to have for dinner.

 

[rowley]

back on topic

OP even though Macs are not as open to virus attacks, they are open to malware.
There is already some protection within the OS to protect you, but for that little extra, you could try ClamAV, which is free

http://www.clamxav.com/

 

[Fabtab]

ay good antivirus software for macbook pro?

I read that iantivirus is good. I downloaded it which was simple, but when I clicked on "protect my mac" it should change from "off" to "on", but doesn't. Any ideas?
Thanks

 

[derickdub]

I use a lot of software that cost anywhere from $3000-$10000 for just a basic license... and all I need it for is my school work.

If I'm paying $5000 a semester just to go to school, why should I pay $5000 for software that I'll only need for one class? If software developers would offer student versions of their software (some do, but most don't) at maybe 90% off, I would buy. Things like MS Office, operating systems, and other $100-$300 software you should just buy, it's a small price to pay and you can write it off.

However, I think that if you use the software for any commercial purposes what-so-ever, you should buy it. You shouldn't make money by ripping other people off. But being a student, wasting $5000 on software is just stupid, and would also make you a "d-bag".

Back to the whole anti-virus thing...

I tell everyone they don't need it, they need to learn to use a computer. Being able to recognize simple file types and knowing how to configure your apps to not "do" stupid things is more than enough to not get a virus, even if you pirate a lot. I've also found actually reading helps too, it's amazing how many people would just click something when all they needed to do is read one sentence to realize they shouldn't click it. There is also a lot of great, free extensions for web browsers that disable malicious advertisements and prevent scripts from running without your permission. To me anti-virus software is just a waste of resources, and money.

 

[squeakr]

However, I think that if you use the software for any commercial purposes what-so-ever, you should buy it. You shouldn't make money by ripping other people off. But being a student, wasting $5000 on software is just stupid, and would also make you a "d-bag".

But you are using the software to get an education so that you can get a decent, high paying job, therefor you are benefitting from the software and "making money by ripping people off". If you didn't want the education and the high paying job then you wouldn't need to pirate the software. Also, every school I have been to has an alternative to be able to use software that they require you to use, such as a lab somewhere that has the software preloaded on machines for students' use, so you could pursue that route rather than pirate (but you make your choice and justify it by the "I am a poor student" defense that lot's use).

 

[ctbear]

whatever, if you're too cheap to just buy the software that's your problem. it's not like anything is that expensive; and if you say CS5 as an example, if it's too expensive for you then you don't really have any reason to have it.

If you want a legit reason why people are pirating software, look up the words "DRM" and "video games" on Google.
Now if they are pirating movies and other things, then it's another story.

 

[rowley]

Back to the whole anti-virus thing...

I tell everyone they don't need it, they need to learn to use a computer. Being able to recognize simple file types and knowing how to configure your apps to not "do" stupid things is more than enough to not get a virus, even if you pirate a lot. I've also found actually reading helps too, it's amazing how many people would just click something when all they needed to do is read one sentence to realize they shouldn't click it. There is also a lot of great, free extensions for web browsers that disable malicious advertisements and prevent scripts from running without your permission. To me anti-virus software is just a waste of resources, and money.

Agreed, I don't have anti virus on my macs, I have no need for them, as I use them for legitimate reasons. I don't download ripped off software, or go to sites which might have malicious code on them.
I did however come from a windows background, and my first thoughts when I got a Mac for the first time was Anti Virus.
Sometimes it's hard to think different.

 

[derickdub]

no its not right its still stealing but if they wanted to stop torrent sites they would shut them down like they shut down napster.

I would highly suggest you look at what's been going on with The Pirate Bay over the last few years. There is no hypothetical switch that can be flipped to shut them down. The networks are made up of the people using them, and it would be impossible to stop file sharing between millions if not billions of "peers".

If "they" really wanted to stop it, the only way would be to attack the infrastructure providing the network between, thus eliminating the internet itself. It is extremely unlikely if not impossible.

Napster wasn't even forced to shut down, they [Napster] chose to shut the network down as a whole. Most P2P networks are far too fragmented to even attempt that now, look at the many failed attempts to shut down TPB. P2P networks also have far too many legitimate uses to shut down as a whole, i.e. Comcast and BitTorrent.

 

[Eddyisgreat]

If I'm paying $5000 a semester just to go to school, why should I pay $5000 for software that I'll only need for one class? If software developers would offer student versions of their software (some do, but most don't) at maybe 90% off, I would buy. Things like MS Office, operating systems, and other $100-$300 software you should just buy, it's a small price to pay and you can write it off.

However, I think that if you use the software for any commercial purposes what-so-ever, you should buy it. You shouldn't make money by ripping other people off. But being a student, wasting $5000 on software is just stupid, and would also make you a "d-bag".

You should be angry at textbook makers + professors for creating nonsense custom editions or versions with 1 or 2 changes that render the older one obsolete, not software developers. Autodesk gives away many of their wares for free. Math packages are available on rental. Heck even Adobe gives you a discount AND allows you to use the software commercially upon graduation.

Where on earth did you come up with the $5000 dollar figure?

 

[derickdub]

But you are using the software to get an education so that you can get a decent, high paying job, therefor you are benefitting from the software and "making money by ripping people off". If you didn't want the education and the high paying job then you wouldn't need to pirate the software. Also, every school I have been to has an alternative to be able to use software that they require you to use, such as a lab somewhere that has the software preloaded on machines for students' use, so you could pursue that route rather than pirate (but you make your choice and justify it by the "I am a poor student" defense that lot's use).

Labs aren't great for practical use most the time, but yes many do provide the software to use. Also, no high-paying job is worth essentially tripling or quadrupling your college expenses over. You have to take, most of this software isn't any good after one year. Paying $20,000+/year on software is absurd for someone who will only need for 4 years, and have no direct financial gain from using it. Has nothing to do with being a "poor student", as I doubt even wealthy students or wealthy parents of students could justify spending that much on software that would never be used again after they graduate.

 

[Tanax]

To be fair, the guy doesn't know what he wants or needs.

He doesn't seem to be very computer-savvy, I agree, but he did say he wanted an anti-virus so why not just give him one?

Mac's are secure against viruses but not for user-downloaded files. I download a lot of files. And no, not pirated stuff. I'm programming a lot so I need programming tools, these are often freewares so I download that if I hear something good about it. But how can I be 100% sure that it's safe? I can't. An anti-virus can search through the file before I open it.

More importantly, if my Mac gets infected, eventhough it might not harm my Mac, when I send files to someone who uses Windows, they could get infected by me from those files and since I program applications and send to people this is pretty important.

And this thread totally derailed and went completely off-topic.

 

[squeakr]

Labs aren't great for practical use most the time, but yes many do provide the software to use. Also, no high-paying job is worth essentially tripling or quadrupling your college expenses over. You have to take, most of this software isn't any good after one year. Paying $20,000+/year on software is absurd for someone who will only need for 4 years, and have no direct financial gain from using it. Has nothing to do with being a "poor student", as I doubt even wealthy students or wealthy parents of students could justify spending that much on software that would never be used again after they graduate.

Your idea of practical is what makes you justify the theft. I could apply this to several things in real life and by your thoughts never should I pay for anything again. If the software is so expensive and such a limitation, then transfer to a school that provides the software or change majors.

By your logic I should never buy a fine wine or good food (or any food for that matter) as it is only good for a limited time and then is worthless. Why should I pay for food that I can only use for a one time shot???

I agree on the student issue not being related to poor or wealthy, but the argument still stands that people use the "poor" student excuse. They think that since they are not making much if any money, they should be exempt from paying for things that can be easily digitally copied (books, software, and entertainment).

 

[Moonflow]

no, you are cheap; again, rationalize it however you like, but you're a cheap d-bag.

you think it's too expensive, so you steal it and don't care that you're hurting people. unfortunately, just because you're too cheap to buy something doesn't make it ok to steal it. if you think it's too expensive, don't buy it. there's open source alternatives that are free, if those aren't up to what you want, then stop being cheap and buy the version you want.


I think Ferrari's are overpriced, and it's not like they just make money from car sales, so I'm going to go pirate a FF....

lol, you make no sense buddy. What a stupid analogy to stealing a Farrari. Are you 13 years old? If so im really wasting my time replying back. If not, you are just too mentally ill to realize my point.

Go ahead and buy softwares that costs hundreds of dollars. Good for you hurray! you are the man! Yes! Others like me think... "What a dumbass, i got that for free". I am not stealing, it's not stealing otherwise why am i still downloading pirated softwares for years and years and police haven't knock on my door yet?

End of story, im not going to read any of your immature posts again. Good day!

 

[derickdub]

You should be angry at textbook makers + professors for creating nonsense custom editions or versions with 1 or 2 changes that render the older one obsolete, not software developers. Autodesk gives away many of their wares for free. Math packages are available on rental. Heck even Adobe gives you a discount AND allows you to use the software commercially upon graduation.

Where on earth did you come up with the $5000 dollar figure?

Just from my speculation, the typical CAD/CAE package will cost around $5000.

I've also found student versions aren't for much more than learning the software, trying to produce decent work with them is near impossible. They lack and limit too many features.

 

[Moonflow]

So because a company is a multi-billion dollar company, that means they should charge you less for the products they're producing? Interesting logic. And yet you own a MacBook Pro and an iPhone. Did you just walk into an Apple Store and steal them? Because, you know, Apple is a multi-billion dollar company, too, so that means they should be selling stuff cheaper. And if it's ok to steal software from Adobe and Microsoft, why isn't it ok to steal hardware from Apple? Either way, you're stealing a product that a company invested a lot of money in.

If you can't afford or don't want to pay for something, find an alternative. If you don't think a steak dinner is worth $30, do you go to the store and just steal a steak? Nope...you find something cheaper to have for dinner.

Why do people make comparisions that are straight up retarded? Stealing a Farrari and stealing macbook pro/iphone. Come on you guys have nothing else logical to compare this to? The difference in stealing these stuff in real life is you would get in a lot of trouble and it is recorded in your record. Whereas, if i'm downloading illegal softwares/pirated softwares from the internet, do i go to jail? Or are future companies will not hire me because i have a record of downloading pirated softwares????? My god people think think think think before you make a stupid analogy again.

P/S: about the last paragraph in your comment. Yup, i would not go to outback and pay 30$, ofcourse!!! But i would go to my mom's house for the same steak, mash potatoes, fries and etc., ALL FOR FREE!!!!!! So again, stop making stupid examples because it is not helping you justifying your point. Unless you come up with something more logical.

 

[heisenberg123]

i wonder if the pirate police here have ever, gone over the speed limit, found something and put in in their pocket, jaywalked, parked in a no parking zone etc etc

 

[squeakr]

lol, you make no sense buddy. What a stupid analogy to stealing a Farrari. Are you 13 years old? If so im really wasting my time replying back. If not, you are just too mentally ill to realize my point.

Go ahead and buy softwares that costs hundreds of dollars. Good for you hurray! you are the man! Yes! Others like me think... "What a dumbass, i got that for free". I am not stealing, it's not stealing otherwise why am i still downloading pirated softwares for years and years and police haven't knock on my door yet?

End of story, im not going to read any of your immature posts again. Good day!

Wow. All I can really say is wow!!! I hope that you really don't believe what you wrote.
By your logic, their are laws against it and since you don't get caught or prosecuted, it isn't breaking the law. Operating a Meth lab, speeding, and driving under the influence must be fine as long as you don't get caught or kill anyone as well?

 

[Eddyisgreat]

Just from my speculation, the typical CAD/CAE package will cost around $5000.

Such as? If I use Autodesk, Saladworks, and Vectorworks, I can secure the following (student versions) :
Autocad = FREE (36 Months)
Saladworks = $99 (1 year) although I have used free copies provided w/ the textbooks
Vectorworks = FREE

So what is the "typical CAD/CAE" you speak of? I'm not an ME by trade so i'm legitimately curious.