Any guesses when 1TB SSD drives will drop in price?

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  1. td2243 macrumors 6502

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    I'm about to start an editing project that is 287gb. I would love to buy the biggest internal drive available, but $1000 for 1TB is just a ton of money. Anybody have any good estimations when that might become more reasonable?

    I have a ton of external space, but working off the main drive is always faster...it seems. Even a 512GB seems small nowadays.
     
  2. wonderspark macrumors 68030

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    I just got a Samsung 840 Evo 1TB SSD for $529, zero tax and free shipping from Amazon. That's almost 50% off your $1000. :)
     

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  3. td2243 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hmmm....the question now is whether we can change that out on the nMP or not. I'm assuming there is only one slot correct?
     
  4. costabunny macrumors 68020

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    The nMP uses a different type of connection. Its a PCIe fitting and I am not sure its an industry standard one.

    There is only the one slot tho, and it can be upgraded, but as to how much they will be and when is anyones guess.
     
  5. td2243 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I'm totally mistaken. The nMP is that PCI Flash razzamatazz, so that probably won't come down for awhile. Keep in mind, I know nothing of what I am talking about. :eek:
     
  6. costabunny macrumors 68020

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    Don't put yourself down - its pretty new to a lot of folks (including myself). :)

    I am sure OWC will be one of the first on the case when the nMP is available anyways.

    Personally if I do get one I shall likely go with the standard and lob an 2.5" SSD in a thunderbolt or USB3 external.

    and its a shame as those EVO 1TB are very nice (got one of em myself - whoosh)
     
  7. sboerup macrumors 6502

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    Don't forget that the nMP SSD is supposedly rated to speeds around 1.3gb/s in read/write. Thats a heck of a lot faster than the Samsung EVO :)
     
  8. costabunny macrumors 68020

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    absolutely :) EVO sustains 500+ each way, but those PCIe cards make it look an amateur
     
  9. wonderspark macrumors 68030

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    However, if you need more than 1TB, the speed is irrelevant, because you'll be using something external, and slower. I can drop three 1TB SSDs into my Mac Pro and connect them to my SATA3 RAID card, and have 3TB at 1500MB/second internally. In fact, I can hook up eight of them and have about 3600MB/second internally on a 8TB array, if I really want to go nuts. There was a guy that maxed out this Areca 1880ix-12 way back in 2011...Faster than anything on Thunderbolt today.
     
  10. sboerup macrumors 6502

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    Or I could just spend $800 extra to get a 1TB SSD and not have to worry about RAID, have it warranted, have it internal, and have it just as fast.
     
  11. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    It isn't so much PCI-e that will likely keep the Mac Pro 2013 1TB prices higher as much as the limited space on the card. The connector isn't as material as being limited to the Flash chips can use to implement the drive. The smaller card space means fewer. That can be somewhat offset in some situation by stacking more flash dies in a chip packages but that adds to costs.

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    Up until recently there haven't been standards for PCI-e SSDs. Now there are and Apple seems to be following into step.

    http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/2013-macbook-air-ngff-pcie-ssd-review/

    The Mac Pro's may have some minor deviations from M.2 (NGFF) standards but probably not that far off. There are a couple competing standards way of going about SSDs over PCI-e ( SATA express and another ) but the standards are catching up to what Apple is deploying and there is much of a good reason for them to wander too far off the standards path.


    It is still open but not completely out of the picture that it is a matter of time more so than being closed off. I'm not sure many are going to want to trade off speed for cost, so the alternatives will need some "next generation" controllers to turn in similar or better benchmarks. Those are just now trickling into the market for 3rd parties to get their hands on for volume production.
     
  12. wonderspark macrumors 68030

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    As I said, if you need more than 1TB of space, then no, you *won't* be able to just spend $800 extra, have it internal, and have it just as fast.
     
  13. Small White Car macrumors G4

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    The OWC Accelsior is a bit closer* to these chips, spec wise, but it's still slower.

    And even it's going for $1,200 for 960 GB.

    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/SSDPHWE2R960/


    So, no, it doesn't look these PCI SSD drives will be matching SATA SSD drive prices anytime soon.



    * Please note I'm saying "closer." This is in no way compatible with the new Mac Pros. Just using it as a price point.
     
  14. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    According to the ad on the bottom of this thread, the Samsung 840 is just $569 from newegg!
     
  15. teeck2000 macrumors regular

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    What the heck!! I just ordered this yesterday and it was $545, how was it $529 for you?
     
  16. theSeb macrumors 604

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    Pro or Evo?
     
  17. wonderspark macrumors 68030

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    Ah, looks like the price went back up. I ordered on 11Dec and received it on 16Dec. My timing was lucky.
     
  18. teeck2000 macrumors regular

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    Ohh okay, yeah I was like what the hell amazon. They had it for $489.99 on Cyber Monday...I had it in my cart and then decided to not get it, now I am kicking myself!
     
  19. hfg macrumors 68040

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    On Cyber Monday Amazon had the Crucial M500 960GB SSD for $429 which I thought was a pretty good price. Put one in my Mini along with a 1.5TB HGST hard disk. :cool:
     
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    Based on the images, it's using the non-standard Apple implementation of NGFF / M.2 that's found across their entire product line. Basically they changed the key size and 2 pins.
     
  21. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    I don't recall, sorry.
     
  22. g4cube macrumors 6502a

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    You are likely correct.

    There are docs out there explaining the various keying options for PCIe, SATA, and WiFi/BlueTooth devices. This article covers some of the detail. From what is pictured, though, it is apparent that Apple uses their own keying:

    http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/understanding-m-2-ngff-ssd-standardization/
     

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  23. sn1p3r845 macrumors regular

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    you and i are like twins...

    i got the same drive on cyber monday, assuming you got yours then as well. we also have an identical sansdigital raid setup :/
     
  24. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 601

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    You mean probably the interface of the EVO. AFAIK, the flash chips in the EVO are faster than SATA III.
     
  25. gmanist1000 macrumors 68030

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    Hopefully before I buy my next computer in 2-3 years :)
     

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