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Any MBA owners planning not to upgrade to Mavericks? If so why?
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I'll update the day it is released. I'll also have a CCC bootable clone on 2 external hard drives and a TM backup, so I'll roll back the moment it appears to be unstable if I have to.
In the past with windows machines I've had baaaaad experiences when upgrading my machine to new versions of the OS because the hardware was built to handle the OS version it came with, not the new update. Things like battery life going to hell, trackpads no longer working correctly, random shutdowns, overheating, and general laginess
I just purchased my first Mac and have never had an experience upgrading OS X so I'm curious:
Are there any MBA owners planning NOT to upgrade to Mavericks? If so why?
Thank's for your input
Mac upgrades are a billion times better than Windows upgrades. You'll have no problem.
I"ll also upgrade the day it comes out. My Haswell MBA already runs for more than 12 hours on a single charge and it"ll probably get even better. There are a lot of features in Mavericks that make me want to upgrade. So far, ML runs flawlessly.
If it is in the sig, it is without a doubt true.
Anyways, I don't think you bought a 2013 air to use it exclusively for windows.
Wiping out OS X? You're just hanging yourself here. The haswell air can be set to boot directly to windows for every usage. You'd still have OS X without noticing it.
Either way, this is silly. Sure it's your money, but why on earth would you pay premium dollar for a machine that's build to run OS X, only to wipe it out and spend another hundred bucks to install windows?
Oh, because you were SPECIFICALLY looking for an i5/8/256 machine to run windows... and hence bought a Mac... to run windows
I wouldn't upgrade right away but assuming that Mavericks doesn't break compatibility with programs I need to use I plan on eventually upgrading. I actually think Mavericks looks like a good upgrade. I like where they are focusing their energies this time (on things like Finder, battery life etc.).
I doubt they'll move too far from the experience they introduced in lion so if you're already on 10.7+ I see no reason not to upgrade eventually.
I doubt they'll move too far from the experience they introduced in lion so if you're already on 10.7+ I see no reason not to upgrade eventually.
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Look dude, quit with the act already. It is see through. Stop wasting people's time by trolling them. There are a bunch of really good peepz here that are voluntarily helping out anyone who may roll along and find difficulties with a Mac, specifically the Air.
Stop trolling for attentionz
In the past with windows machines I've had baaaaad experiences when upgrading my machine to new versions of the OS because the hardware was built to handle the OS version it came with, not the new update. Things like battery life going to hell, trackpads no longer working correctly, random shutdowns, overheating, and general laginess
That won't happen here! Mavericks runs just fine (with increased battery life!) on our late 2010 11" MBA with 2 GB of RAM, the minimum configuration. It originally came with Snow Leopard, and also runs Lion and Mountain Lion without problems.
If it is in the sig, it is without a doubt true.
Anyways, I don't think you bought a 2013 air to use it exclusively for windows.
Wiping out OS X? You're just hanging yourself here. The haswell air can be set to boot directly to windows for every usage. You'd still have OS X without noticing it.
Either way, this is silly. Sure it's your money, but why on earth would you pay premium dollar for a machine that's build to run OS X, only to wipe it out and spend another hundred bucks to install windows?
Oh, because you were SPECIFICALLY looking for an i5/8/256 machine to run windows... and hence bought a Mac... to run windows
I don't need OSX and I wanted the space.. I'm in graduate school.. I got windows 8 pro for nothing
Anyways,
~ Macbook air $1400 (Cheaper due to educational discounts)
~Sony Pro 13 $1470 only 4gb of ram instead of 8gb
~Acer S7 $1450 only 128gb ssd
~Sony Pro 13 8gb 256SSD $1570 ($1470 after mir)
I wanted that config because I wasnt dropping $1600+ for the i7 config which i don't need or want S7 Sony Pro 13
The macbook air i7/256gb/8gb is $1550..
The macbook air is cheaper even without any education discounts on both configs
If you edit it within the minute, it doesn't show up.
Look dude, quit with the act already. It is see through. Stop wasting people's time by trolling them. There are a bunch of really good peepz here that are voluntarily helping out anyone who may roll along and find difficulties with a Mac, specifically the Air.
Stop trolling for attentionz
He posted way after me anyways.. So he just missed a section on what I wrote
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Upgrading, on Day 1 if possible
My second Mac is the 2011 Mac Air 13 that came with Snow Leopard. I upgraded on Day 1 to both Lion and Mountain Lion, with zero problems; however, since I was new to the platform, I was not carrying any legacy software that was going to have problems with the upgrade.
Both times, I had to wait a week or two for Onyx or some other 3rd-party app to update to the new OSX.
I routinely get 7 hours out of my battery, even after two years. Looking forward to what effect Mavericks will have on my 2011 MBA.
My second Mac is the 2011 Mac Air 13 that came with Snow Leopard. I upgraded on Day 1 to both Lion and Mountain Lion, with zero problems; however, since I was new to the platform, I was not carrying any legacy software that was going to have problems with the upgrade.
Both times, I had to wait a week or two for Onyx or some other 3rd-party app to update to the new OSX.
I routinely get 7 hours out of my battery, even after two years. Looking forward to what effect Mavericks will have on my 2011 MBA.
I will upgrade but it will likely start off buggy and with performance issues. Usually the new releases are buggy until the second or third revision is released. Lion was terrible when it was released compared to the rock solid snow leopard, it got better with time. Mountain lion imo was actually very good when it was released so hopefully mavericks will be as well but I think mavericks is a larger change from mountain lion than mountain lion was from lion so I feel it will take them a few months to sort out bugs and then everything will be back up to par
i think this is a good strategy. i was going to wait but i think i'll do what you're doing - especially since i have the $100 gift card from the BTS sale.
while i was a bit disappointed w/ lion/ML at first i did eventually upgrade, can't see why i wouldn't do the same for mav. and it's not like i won't eventually do it even in the unlikely event that it's atrocious. Besides, you generally HAVE to upgrade to get the next click up anyway...
/what else am i going to do w/ $100 itunes credit?
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i don't remember feeling that way and i certainly don't remember the slights you are alluding to...
The only thing that keeps most people from upgrading is that it costs money (even though it is dirt cheap IMO). If OS X was free to upgrade and users were prompted to do so like they are in iOS, it would be a different ballgame entirely.
I'll be upgrading on day one. I agree with other posters that have pointed out the painless nature of upgrading OS X as compared with Windows.
I'll be upgrading on day one. I agree with other posters that have pointed out the painless nature of upgrading OS X as compared with Windows.
One thing that keeps all people from upgrading, regardless of price, is if it breaks existing software. Mavericks seems to be more benign in that respect than previous upgrades. My Mac experience started with Panther and by far the most painful upgrades were Leopard and Lion. For me Leopard was the worst as it completely broke my networking until the .1 release. Lion's .0 at least limped along. Snow Leopard was the fix for Leopard, and Mountain Lion was the fix for Lion with Mavericks offering additional fixes for multiple displays and battery usage.
For me, Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion, and now Mavericks are "no brainer" upgrades from the cats that proceeded them. The only real question is should Snow Leopard hold outs, that are able to upgrade, go directly to Mavericks? No reason I can see to go to Lion or Mountain Lion without taking the full plunge to Mavericks.
I don't "plan" it.
I just considered it an hassle if I don't need any of the new features (BIG IF). Better battery OK, but I will wait until somebody else gone through the process and tell me exactly what's the improvement. 3% more battery time? I probly won't bother.
Bug fix? Is there something specific you are trying to fix? Be specific, don't assume newer is always better.
I saw the keynote, and there is really nothing there to excite me. When somebody find a new feature I like, I may consider it.
Whether Windows or OSX, I always make a image backup of my OS before a major upgrade, so if I don't like it, have problems, I just pull out my image backup and am back in business in 15 minutes, and wait until there is a resolution to my problem, if any, and/or more time to deal with it. THAT'S IT. No risk.
I just considered it an hassle if I don't need any of the new features (BIG IF). Better battery OK, but I will wait until somebody else gone through the process and tell me exactly what's the improvement. 3% more battery time? I probly won't bother.
Bug fix? Is there something specific you are trying to fix? Be specific, don't assume newer is always better.
I saw the keynote, and there is really nothing there to excite me. When somebody find a new feature I like, I may consider it.
Whether Windows or OSX, I always make a image backup of my OS before a major upgrade, so if I don't like it, have problems, I just pull out my image backup and am back in business in 15 minutes, and wait until there is a resolution to my problem, if any, and/or more time to deal with it. THAT'S IT. No risk.
You usually get "burned" with Windows upgrades because optimal device drivers are not available for the new OS on the original hardware. Manufacturers generally don't support these systems beyond what OS they are shipped with. Any upgrades are completely at your own risk!
So, yes, they are made for Windows XX just like the sticker says.
Apple seems to provide driver support in new OSes until the systems fall out of AppleCare (3 years).
That's because you don't have Windows releasing a new version every year.. but when windows 8 was coming out.. The manufacturers put "windows 8 ready" on the box
Windows 7 is what 4 years old.. Windows 8 is a year old. Three years between releases.
It matters if you buy a system with Windows 7 a year before Windows 8 is out and find you can't upgrade. Mavericks will run on every Mac built since early 2009.
You can upgrade.. I have done it for family, friends. Granted, it's usually looking online for correct drivers if can't get them to install correctly/natively in Windows
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Well, that's the problem. It takes a technically sophisticated user to do it. Not an issue for Macs. You can see this in the upgrade rates which are much higher for Macs than for Windows systems. Heck, even at my work with an IT staff trained in Windows every box is on XP except for the very newest purchases which are on 7, probably because they can't get the drivers!