We'll know how the keyboard holds up, 802.11ax, better camera and the inevitable first gen glitches that show up. Think we're already seeing some issues related to thermal performance and fan noise.
And whatever supercedes Catalina.
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Any MBP 2015 users jumping to the 16in?
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And whatever supercedes Catalina.
Cooling got a nice overhaul, I wouldn’t expect much more. Same goes for the resolution as they just upped it. Apple usually takes a year or two. However, I am, as well, fine with the way they are.
The Retina display is now 3072x1920, which is great. I noticed its scaling the same as the old panel, so 1920x1200 is max. So aren’t we still getting the “same” real estate in a sense? Just higher PPI which would be nice for video editing/graphics design.
Lastly, I haven’t understood the Wifi6 craze. Yes, future proofing is nice but I feel most bandwidths won’t even max out what we currently have inside the MBP. It also means upgrading all your networking stuff to accommodate the new iteration. I just bought some Ubiquiti APs so I don’t think I’m doing that again for a few years hopefully. Are we really gonna take advantage of it?
Not looking to start an argument, just curious on these points.
If you really want WiFi 6, can you just buy an adapter for it?
Pretty much how I feel.
The Wifi 6 will take a while to be implement on the facilites side. Because of their reliability and costs, Ubiquiti AC Pro APs are very popular and they do not have support for Wifi 6 yet (AC = 802.11ac). And large facilites don't just replace dozens of access points because a new 802.11 spec variant was released. The current devices deployed need to be depreciated.
I have two home routers. One was purchased in 2010 and the other was purchased in 2011. I imagine that most homes are like this - you keep using it until it breaks or you need some new functionality.
Honestly probably not unless you can really make use of the extra graphics power, or really hate the keyboard. The loss you'll take selling and re buying will be considerable.
Apple could release a new MacBook Pro tomorrow. The best you can do is if they introduce it within the return window. I'm sure that you were delighted to get a new MacBook Pro. The MacBook Pro that you bought and were excited to get is still the same machine.
I am highly considering moving away from my MBP 15" 2015 and MP 2010 in order to get the MBP 16".
I might keep my MP as secondary computer in case something happens to the laptop that might need repair so I don't lose work.
I might keep my MP as secondary computer in case something happens to the laptop that might need repair so I don't lose work.
It's like this picture. The girl he's walking with is the 15 inch and the girl in the red dress is the 16.
Don't really know, check other listings on your preferred vendor... bear in mind Apple themselves sell it refurbished for $1,869 on their website now, I would probably expect a used machine to go for even less than that given a refurbished machine comes with a full 1 year Apple warranty, and pretty much guarantees nothing is wrong with it.
I would definitely wait if I were considering buying the 2019. Remember folks, this is a first generation keyboard. Not to mention the other first gen components in the machine. Not necessarily a big issue, but still something to think about. I would hold off for now and wait to see how the general reception is for it-then go ahead and make your purchase if everything checks out.
My mid-2014 is still chugging along, but I've been planning for an upgrade (targeting late spring/summer of 2020) for a while now. I have been resigned to migrating to Windows, but the new 16" might signal a change in my plans.
In any event, I'll hang out to see how the new machine does in users' hands longer term, and I am curious to see if we get a refresh to the 16" around the time I'm ready to pull the trigger on a purchase.
In any event, I'll hang out to see how the new machine does in users' hands longer term, and I am curious to see if we get a refresh to the 16" around the time I'm ready to pull the trigger on a purchase.
Pulled the trigger, ordered an i9 2.3ghz, 32gb , 5500M 8GB, and a 1TB SSD.
Originally didn’t intend to get an i9 but it financially made more sense to just use the “high-end” base mode.
Looking foward to comparing it to the 2015, haven’t been excited for a MBP for a while
I know the OP was asking about moving up from 2015 15" model, but what would you do if you have a late model 2016 15" MBP (Touch Bar, with butterfly keys). A new 16" would cost about $3200 and Apple says I can trade my 2016 model in for $1000 leaving a delta of $2200. I've done everything I know to protect the keyboard (clamshell most of the time, keyboard cover, etc) but still think it is not if, but when will the keyboard fail.
So would you take the $2000 hit and make the jump to avoid a (sometime in the future) $900 keyboard replacement?
So would you take the $2000 hit and make the jump to avoid a (sometime in the future) $900 keyboard replacement?
The reliability would be my sole reason to jump from the 2016, as it has a high failure rate. Also, keyboard covers aren’t recommended either. So by protecting your keyboard, your display can take damage supposedly. So either scenario, something can break.
Using a camera cover, palm rest, or keyboard cover on a Mac notebook - Apple Support
If you use a camera cover, palm rest cover, or keyboard cover with your Mac notebook, remove the cover before closing your display to prevent damage to your display.
Now that 120Hz displays (like in the iPads) are obviously almost there for MacBooks – I'm betting on already next year – I just can't justify to buy one yet. Different story if somebody really needs a new one for work right now or is the kind of guy who quickly sells the old one for a good price when a new one is announced.
Speaking for myself, 120hz is just too much of a quality jump to buy now. Willing to take the bet that 2020 finally becomes the year for 120Hz MacBooks. Pulling this prediction out of my ass, though, may be wrong.
Speaking for myself, 120hz is just too much of a quality jump to buy now. Willing to take the bet that 2020 finally becomes the year for 120Hz MacBooks. Pulling this prediction out of my ass, though, may be wrong.
Wonderful, another thing to worry about. The keyboard cover issue is another angle I had not thought of. I do know when in clamshell mode the MBP cover leaves about a millimeter gap between it and the base because of the keyboard cover. I rarely force it flat, so I guess I have been naively lucky. But your point is well taken.The reliability would be my sole reason to jump from the 2016, as it has a high failure rate. Also, keyboard covers aren’t recommended either. So by protecting your keyboard, your display can take damage supposedly. So either scenario, something can break.
Using a camera cover, palm rest, or keyboard cover on a Mac notebook - Apple Support
If you use a camera cover, palm rest cover, or keyboard cover with your Mac notebook, remove the cover before closing your display to prevent damage to your display.support.apple.com
I really want to go for the MacBook Pro 16” with top spec of i9, 64GB Ram , etc. But just waiting for assurance that the laptop with a spec like that actually works and can cope with the load expected of that kind of machine , without fans going into Jet engine mode non stop and possible battery life issues due to the high resource usage.
I made the jump from a base 2015 to a pretty nicely specced 16". Loving it so far. Looking forward to be able to actually edit footage. That base level integrated graphics in 2019 just wasn't cutting it.
I thought about it but my 2015 still does everything I need perfectly. I think I will stick it out with the 2015 for as long as it lasts.
haha same, i'm sitting on amd and qualcomm profit
got it at 18 a year ago, now sitting at 40+