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I mean who cares about the iPod? It is basically an iPhone without cellular capability. Why does such a device get so much attention? Who buys these things and why? Do people buy an iPod and then some other device to use as mobile phone?

I do. Games and music are drains on the battery, and I like to be sure I have plenty of battery left on my phone. Then again, thinking like that means the iPhone isn't the best phone for me, so I buy some other device to use as mobile phone.

Doesn't excuse them being so late on desktops, but they follow the money and the money is elsewhere at the moment.
 
C'mon people, Apple's been focused on the iPhone and iPod updates, and read that iMac was due for an update next month. I think that there is an overreaction when Apple doesn't update as fast as we'd like.

Think about the computer market: you have Apple making Apple, then you have 80 other companies making Wintel boxes. Of course you're going to see new processors and configurations rolled out faster, there's 80 different guys trying to keep up with each. What should be more important is that when you pay the extra money for the Apple computer that it lasts longer and works better than one from the other 80 guys.

I have an Mac Pro 3,1 for which I paid $2200, and which does everything that I want it to do without any issues, and even with it having a shortened OS life now, it will continue to work for a few mores year without problem. I am on my third wintel box in the same time and while the cost wasn't as high, the frustration with the wintel boxes probably took months off my life.

Perspective folks. New iMacs will come and they will be good.

1. Don't "c'mon people".
Computer technology moves fast and 500 days without updating their desktop is pathetic, especially since Ivy Bridge was released way back in April. There is no "over-reaction"; it's total frustration. Many, many people have been waiting to buy an iMac for months and months already. It's common sense to not want to buy a very old model.

2. My bang-for-buck custom-built PC's last forever; I donate them when I want a faster machine (maybe every 6 years). They do not die. Mac's are not more reliable and certainly no faster. The ONLY reason to buy a Mac is for aesthetics and to use OSX. My 2008 hackintosh runs fast and reliably, just as well as my 2011 MBP. It cost £800 in 2008 and the 2011 iMacs only just caught up with it's speed.
I convinced my parents to get an iMac and they've been patiently waiting for 7 months for a new release already.

Perspective.. like ******s. We all got one.
 
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I do. Games and music are drains on the battery, and I like to be sure I have plenty of battery left on my phone. Then again, thinking like that means the iPhone isn't the best phone for me, so I buy some other device to use as mobile phone.

Have you considered buying a spare battery?
 
One thing Apple needs to remember is people are buying all these Iphones and Ipads, and enjoying the OS. They also have PC's in the home and I would think a larger portion would buy a MAC since they have an Ipad and Iphone. But if Apple wont bring out newer technology or stop making PC's when they Iphone or Ipad they currently have die they will fall back to a PC system since they could not get a modern MAC to work with the tech toys they have.

Apple could sell a ton of MAC's if they would only try.


The Desktop PC is not dead.

Tom
 
One thing Apple needs to remember is people are buying all these Iphones and Ipads, and enjoying the OS. They also have PC's in the home and I would think a larger portion would buy a MAC since they have an Ipad and Iphone. But if Apple wont bring out newer technology or stop making PC's when they Iphone or Ipad they currently have die they will fall back to a PC system since they could not get a modern MAC to work with the tech toys they have.

Apple could sell a ton of MAC's if they would only try.


The Desktop PC is not dead.

Tom

The stereotype of Apple userbase is using iPhone and iPad for their ultra mobility computing. While for 'serious' computing (according to Apple) they have this Macbook Air plugged into a 27" Thunderbolt Display.

That's what Apple wants you to do. I don't like it either but that's just the way it is.
 
The stereotype of Apple userbase is using iPhone and iPad for their ultra mobility computing. While for 'serious' computing (according to Apple) they have this Macbook Air plugged into a 27" Thunderbolt Display.

That's what Apple wants you to do. I don't like it either but that's just the way it is.

In that case, why don't the b*******ds price the Thunderbolt display at at something that resembles a reasonable consumer price :mad:

I don't care how 'great' it is - £900 for an external screen is outrageous as a genuine consumer offering.
 
In that case, why don't the b*******ds price the Thunderbolt display at at something that resembles a reasonable consumer price :mad:

I don't care how 'great' it is - £900 for an external screen is outrageous as a genuine consumer offering.

Amen
 
In that case, why don't the b*******ds price the Thunderbolt display at at something that resembles a reasonable consumer price :mad:

I don't care how 'great' it is - £900 for an external screen is outrageous as a genuine consumer offering.

Actually it's about on par with other monitors with similar specs. The Dell that is pretty close to the Thunderbolt display is like $700+ and isn't a hub as well..
 
One thing Apple needs to remember is people are buying all these Iphones and Ipads, and enjoying the OS. They also have PC's in the home and I would think a larger portion would buy a MAC since they have an Ipad and Iphone. But if Apple wont bring out newer technology or stop making PC's when they Iphone or Ipad they currently have die they will fall back to a PC system since they could not get a modern MAC to work with the tech toys they have.

Tom is exactly right. This has happened to many people I know, myself included. They bought an iPhone, iPad, MacBook etc.. and when their desktop died they bought an iMac to stay within the OS and ecosystem they had come to love. Not everyone wants an expensive, tiny screen laptop that they have to plug into a larger screen. Many still want a dedicated desktop. If Apple stops offering a desktop, people will stick with PC and the next time they replace their phone they may be looking at Windows Phone to have better integration with their desktop. I think it would be a really bad move to drop the iMac.
 
Tom is exactly right. This has happened to many people I know, myself included. They bought an iPhone, iPad, MacBook etc.. and when their desktop died they bought an iMac to stay within the OS and ecosystem they had come to love. Not everyone wants an expensive, tiny screen laptop that they have to plug into a larger screen. Many still want a dedicated desktop. If Apple stops offering a desktop, people will stick with PC and the next time they replace their phone they may be looking at Windows Phone to have better integration with their desktop. I think it would be a really bad move to drop the iMac.

Apple could drop all the desktops tomorrow and it would have little to no effect on their bottom line. I hate to see that happen because I love having a desktop as my main home computer and would rather have a Mac instead of a Windows PC, but it's coming and coming sooner then you think. I lost count of how many times Tim Cook said "Post PC" era during the iPhone 5 presentation.

In fact I think even the notebooks will slowly be phased out at some point. The profit margin is so slim on actual PCs compared to consumer devices like phones and tablets. The future of Apple is the iDevice even though it pains me to say that because I love the Mac.
 
Actually it's about on par with other monitors with similar specs. The Dell that is pretty close to the Thunderbolt display is like $700+ and isn't a hub as well..

$700 = £430, less than half the price of the £900 Apple display.
 
Tom is exactly right. This has happened to many people I know, myself included. They bought an iPhone, iPad, MacBook etc.. and when their desktop died they bought an iMac to stay within the OS and ecosystem they had come to love. Not everyone wants an expensive, tiny screen laptop that they have to plug into a larger screen. Many still want a dedicated desktop. If Apple stops offering a desktop, people will stick with PC and the next time they replace their phone they may be looking at Windows Phone to have better integration with their desktop. I think it would be a really bad move to drop the iMac.

I agree and am in exactly this position.

A household now with a plethora of iDevices, but a Windows 7 PC.

I intend to buy an iMac to replace the laptop. if Apple stop offering this option, I will be very disappointed. Integration of devices and ease of use is a key factor.
 
If I was running a business I would never drop a product line that made 25-30% of my sales and profit. That would be stupid - What apple needs to do continue to make laptops and all in ones. Heck I think they could increase the share of sales and profit from PC's if they would make a Tower computer that was targeted at consumers - 3 options - IMAC , gaming mac and Mac PRO.

Gamers would drool over a MAC designed to play games on.
 
Funny since Apple try so hard to put in a game changer & killer GPU in their iPhone and iPad SoC, while they don't even try to do the same for their Mac computers.

iOS is literally the king of mobile platform. Games, utilities, whatever apps you can almost find it on AppStore. Just like Windows on computer world.
 
Funny since Apple try so hard to put in a game changer & killer GPU in their iPhone and iPad SoC, while they don't even try to do the same for their Mac computers.

iOS is literally the king of mobile platform. Games, utilities, whatever apps you can almost find it on AppStore. Just like Windows on computer world.

Apple was beat to the punch on the computer side of things and MS owns direct x. Apple was first in for the real deal smart phones so they could name the terms for developers :p
 
Apple was beat to the punch on the computer side of things and MS owns direct x. Apple was first in for the real deal smart phones so they could name the terms for developers :p

Well .. PS3 does not use DirectX API and it does games just fine. Well obviously left far behind by PC titles, considering it's 6 years old.

But the point is, it is possible to develop games without DirectX support in the OS. It's just Apple does not want to.
I wouldn't be surprised if OS X would be dead in say .. 5 years.
 
Lin time I have been using Windows PC's and Nokia as mobile phones.

In Dec. 2011 I bought my wife the ipad2 for Xmas and since that time we (I) started living Apple. I got my iPhone 4S in March 2012 with a 10 GB data plan and an apple TV3 last month. Since I do a lot with pictures and even more with video (full HD in 1080p) my Eee Netbook has reached his limits long time ago.

I am waiting since several months for a new iMac and I am willing to pay the € 2500 for the topped up 27" iMac but only for a new one.

The problem is as stated above that Apple won't announce anything about a new Mac until the old ones are sold to a level where they have only a few left which they can lower the price on to sell the last few off. People wouldn't buy the old anymore if thy would knew a new is coming in October. But this counts only for the people that know a new is coming! 97% won't know or care as they are not informed or they want one now. And there always gonna be people that still gonna buy te old one over the new one for different reasons.

I strongly believe (and hope) that a new iMac is coming soon, cause if it would come next year ape could announce a date for March or whatever and people would move on. Currently it is f...ed up cause many are waiting, but from a Marketing and sales point of view it doesn't make sense to give any news.

Let's hope for a October release for the iMac and the iPad mini.

Cheers
 
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