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that would be perfect!! i use my original CD MBP with no problems on my HDTV at 1920x1080 (mind you it is a DVI port). i use it for blu-ray playback, its amazing :)

Ahah, awesome to hear that, blu-ray MKVs would be the same use here :D.
As long as it doens't give me any weird cropped screens or not-as-it-should-be screens as this Toshiba I have right now running WinXP + VGA cable, I'm happy.

I also said HDMI because I haven't got a TV with DVI input, does it really give better quality or is it just the same thing as HDMI screen? (Would get a Minidisplay-HDMI, not Minidisplay-DVI-HDMI).

Also (I'm sorry if this is a bit threadjacking OP, just curious) do people find any problems using HDMI because the TV should pick it up as audio+video, or is that no problem once you plug in the sound? Also something that has made me curious...
 
Ahah, awesome to hear that, blu-ray MKVs would be the same use here :D.
As long as it doens't give me any weird cropped screens or not-as-it-should-be screens as this Toshiba I have right now running WinXP + VGA cable, I'm happy.

I also said HDMI because I haven't got a TV with DVI input, does it really give better quality or is it just the same thing as HDMI screen? (Would get a Minidisplay-HDMI, not Minidisplay-DVI-HDMI).

Also (I'm sorry if this is a bit threadjacking OP, just curious) do people find any problems using HDMI because the TV should pick it up as audio+video, or is that no problem once you plug in the sound? Also something that has made me curious...

i have a DVI->HDMI converter cable that i use.. it works perfectly, there are no it fits the screen perfectly and there are no errors but i guess it depends on the tv you are using.. goodluck with it :p
 
i bought that. no audio tho and my TV doesnt support audio from different source when using hdmi.
 
Friggin almost 2010 and still no HDMI

I have crystal clear dot by dot clarity on a 32" 1080p Sharp Aquos (even for text) however, I need to attach a retarded and bulky DVI to HDMI converter on one side and even more retarded audio cables on the other side of my macbook pro. A high definition LCD has become one of the most fundamental peripherals to laptop owners. DOES ANYONE STILL CARE ABOUT VGA? Seriously, apple, get it together, I'm willing to sac 2 of my 3 USB2 ports for an HDMI port. I refuse to upgrade until HDMI is implemented. If they take too long, fukit, I'm switching to Ubuntu on a custom system.

-B
http://onesci.com
 
I have crystal clear dot by dot clarity on a 32" 1080p Sharp Aquos (even for text) however, I need to attach a retarded and bulky DVI to HDMI converter on one side and even more retarded audio cables on the other side of my macbook pro. A high definition LCD has become one of the most fundamental peripherals to laptop owners. DOES ANYONE STILL CARE ABOUT VGA? Seriously, apple, get it together, I'm willing to sac 2 of my 3 USB2 ports for an HDMI port. I refuse to upgrade until HDMI is implemented. If they take too long, fukit, I'm switching to Ubuntu on a custom system.

-B
http://onesci.com

im afraid you're fighting a lost cause here. HDMI wont be implemented. apple is going along their DP route.
 
I think that ExpressCard expansion on the side is a waste. HDMI, eSATA, more USB ports would be a better choice. Or Apple should have gone the other extreme and only have ExpressCard expansion and you have to buy what ports and things to plug into the ExpressCard slot.
 
I have crystal clear dot by dot clarity on a 32" 1080p Sharp Aquos (even for text) however, I need to attach a retarded and bulky DVI to HDMI converter on one side and even more retarded audio cables on the other side of my macbook pro. A high definition LCD has become one of the most fundamental peripherals to laptop owners. DOES ANYONE STILL CARE ABOUT VGA? Seriously, apple, get it together, I'm willing to sac 2 of my 3 USB2 ports for an HDMI port. I refuse to upgrade until HDMI is implemented. If they take too long, fukit, I'm switching to Ubuntu on a custom system.

-B
http://onesci.com

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10428&cs_id=1042802&p_id=5969&seq=1&format=2
 
I have crystal clear dot by dot clarity on a 32" 1080p Sharp Aquos (even for text) however, I need to attach a retarded and bulky DVI to HDMI converter on one side and even more retarded audio cables on the other side of my macbook pro. A high definition LCD has become one of the most fundamental peripherals to laptop owners. DOES ANYONE STILL CARE ABOUT VGA? Seriously, apple, get it together, I'm willing to sac 2 of my 3 USB2 ports for an HDMI port. I refuse to upgrade until HDMI is implemented. If they take too long, fukit, I'm switching to Ubuntu on a custom system.

-B
http://onesci.com

Or you can do like me and get a real sound system which would need another cable anyway ;)
 
Or you can do like me and get a real sound system which would need another cable anyway ;)

HDMI 1.3 and above is what is used on real sound systems. There are no reasons to add a tos link to split audio/video. Even Arcam and Rotel have gone hdmi.
 
That I can give a maybe to. But still only a maybe... I think that a stumbling block for having that on a notebook is that it is really only useful for 1 thing, external storage, and the MacBook Pro already has 4 ports for that (2 USB, 1 FW400, 1FW800), plus the expresscard34 slot which can allow you to hook up even more.

On a system like the MacBook Pro, where thin is in, and every millimeter of space counts, I would imagine that adding an eSATA port would be a fairly tough decision. You have to weigh the advantages against the added circuitry inside, and the space you'd have to find outside. Also, you can get an expresscard34 card that will give you 2 eSATA ports for only $60 or so. Which is more or less a drop in the bucket when you consider the MacBook Pro retails for $2000

I can't but strongly disagree... how can you compare a USB to an eSata port!!!!!!! it may be allright to transfer the PhotoBooth dog photos, but if we are talking about 20Gb video files.... Add to this the brilliant Apple engineering with all USB ports shared, the low current output capabilities, ...

FW800 is better, but still not enough... besides the firewire bus will be clogged, and probably demanding chained devices won't work full power when doing massive data transfers, as FW800 also shares bus with the FW400 connector.

ExpressCard is the only option, but mind that
(i) you would have to buy an ExpressCard to eSata, and it is a pity, for Mac has ALREADY Sata in the logic board and it would be a matter of just putting the external port, IMHO

(ii) Apple has decided to remove ExpressCard support from the latest MacBookPro's ( Pro? really? :p ) but the 17" and substituted it with a lame Smart Card reader - that's internally attached to the USB bus, though clogging even more the USB lanes.

So .... please apple.... go Pro again...
 
I can't but strongly disagree... how can you compare a USB to an eSata port!!!!!!! it may be allright to transfer the PhotoBooth dog photos, but if we are talking about 20Gb video files.... Add to this the brilliant Apple engineering with all USB ports shared, the low current output capabilities, ...

FW800 is better, but still not enough... besides the firewire bus will be clogged, and probably demanding chained devices won't work full power when doing massive data transfers, as FW800 also shares bus with the FW400 connector.

ExpressCard is the only option, but mind that
(i) you would have to buy an ExpressCard to eSata, and it is a pity, for Mac has ALREADY Sata in the logic board and it would be a matter of just putting the external port, IMHO

(ii) Apple has decided to remove ExpressCard support from the latest MacBookPro's ( Pro? really? :p ) but the 17" and substituted it with a lame Smart Card reader - that's internally attached to the USB bus, though clogging even more the USB lanes.

So .... please apple.... go Pro again...


So wait, u really cant wait those what, 7 min to transfer 20 Gb of video files to ur external drive? I can hardly see a situation where you are in such a hurry to backup the data :p
 
So wait, u really cant wait those what, 7 min to transfer 20 Gb of video files to ur external drive? I can hardly see a situation where you are in such a hurry to backup the data :p

If it was for backup purposes I could agree with you, but mind that the problem is, when you work with professional video or audio, you use the Hard Disks directly, I mean, you record video tracks and audio tracks to the HD. HD speed is an absolute must.

There are many other reasons, like speed smothness but let's not get very extended.... With a eSATA HD ==> You work very happy. With a USB HD ==> You hardly can't work, or you work very sad ;)
 
I think that ExpressCard expansion on the side is a waste. HDMI, eSATA, more USB ports would be a better choice. Or Apple should have gone the other extreme and only have ExpressCard expansion and you have to buy what ports and things to plug into the ExpressCard slot.

Well they're all complementary. I possibly would trade the ExpressCard for an eSata. I definitely need more USB ports, but those should be given to us for free without the need to trade for the ExpressCard. HDMI would be the cherry on top of the cake ....

but the problem is ....

we got nothing :confused:
 
No chance

Job's has already stated that he is backing the DisplayPort technology instead.
 
After MDP, it's going to probably be 'light peak' replacing MDP/USB/Firewire.
 
Personally, I don't really see the point in having HDMI. You get an HDCP compliant DVI port, and you have the ability to hook up Composite, SVideo, VGA, DVI and HDMI. I do not know if HDMI has the same versatility.

I put HDMI on the same level as a built in card reader or fingerprint reader, they are nice, and people like them, but frankly I fail to see the point in most instances.

HDMI is commercially available in almost anything nowdays. That's why I see the point but you may not. Heck, find a TV that's decently priced with a DisplayPort. Yet, find a new tv with dvi only.

Displayport is actually free which is why Apple uses it instead of HDMI. Whereas HDMI is licensed and you need to pay 0.04cents everytime you use it.
 
Why would I need another cable if I had an HDMI port? My LCD has audio out, which is connected to a Marshall amp.

I wouldn't wanna use a digital surround system for music, rather a good 2.0 analog, meaning I need an external DAC that get's the sound either through the optical output on the Mac, or USB.
 
I wouldn't wanna use a digital surround system for music, rather a good 2.0 analog, meaning I need an external DAC that get's the sound either through the optical output on the Mac, or USB.

So do you store your music in .wav format? Would there be any point to having analog/optical out if the music files are stored in a digital container like .mp3
 
So do you store your music in .wav format? Would there be any point to having analog/optical out if the music files are stored in a digital container like .mp3

Yeah. As long as you don't have a reciever (i.e. use digital inputs on your reciever and uses the built in DAC there), the soundcard will be used as a DAC. And on a laptop that sucks, then an external DAC really makes a difference. Even on my old speakers (20 years old) you hear a big difference when running the USB DAC and just running the 3.5mm outlet.
 
Yeah. As long as you don't have a reciever (i.e. use digital inputs on your reciever and uses the built in DAC there), the soundcard will be used as a DAC. And on a laptop that sucks, then an external DAC really makes a difference. Even on my old speakers (20 years old) you hear a big difference when running the USB DAC and just running the 3.5mm outlet.

Can you give me an example of the product you are referring to, preferably via linking to a product page on newegg. Thanks
 
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