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Any real contenders for the ipad3
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And waiting and waiting and waiting, for what Microsoft could and should have done 10 years ago.
While the hardware in 2002 wouldn't have be iPad thin, the OS could have been great if Microsoft wanted to be serious about developing a new UI.
Microsoft actually did release a lot of tablet computers. The problem was the OS, they chose to put Windows XP on their tablet computer line. This led to sluggish functionalities and high prices.
Apple did a great job when they decided to start from scratch, I think this is what led to the success of the iOS.
I'm acually going to disagree. I think what killed Windows on the tablet, 10 years ago, was the lack of battery life. The tablets of today, what people are actually buying, is something that you can leave on the coffee table for a week, charge occasionally, but take to a meeting for all-day work and productivity.
Intel was the holdup. Had Palm come out with a 10" Palm Pilot, they'd be where Apple is now.
You guys are actually debating about whether a device that none of us have seen will have competition from devices that do not exist yet.
The Prime is the only competition to the iPad 2 right now, and its successor the 300T will be competition for the iPad 3. The main difference between it and its predecessor though is the higher 1920x1200 resolution screen.
The iPad 3 will still have a higher resolution. I'm hoping for a 1.5GHz dual-core Cortex A15 as well, that'll work nicely... maybe even a higher clock speed.
The iPad 3 will still have a higher resolution. I'm hoping for a 1.5GHz dual-core Cortex A15 as well, that'll work nicely... maybe even a higher clock speed.
Actually they are a pain in the ass because of the lack of iTunes!
I used to be a PC guy and though all this iTunes thing was c*** but now I see all the easy it makes everything!
Just try to copy a book to an android tablet!
Android way:
1- Manually activate USB storage mode when connect to the PC.
2.- Look trough the file system to an eBooks folder that is in some sd_card directory.
3.- Manually copy one by one the books you want that are stored in your PC
4.- Click the eject button in the desktop USB, then manually desactivate the USB storage mode in the Android device.
5.- Open eBook app and start reading book? Not so fast! Open the eBook app and look for and import button...then again to the file system look for the eBooks folder, but be carefull not to hit the wrong button or you can start seeing all the mess in the file system /var/whip/fhfk/fjgof and such ( and I'm not Exageratting this!), import the books to the app.
6.- Now you can read your books.
iPad way:
1.- select books in iTunes and click sync.
2.- disconnect iPad ( you can skip this if using wifi sync)
3.- open app and read books.
All this android openness is nothing but laziness by Google's part
Edit: and all of this in a 1.2 Ghz android 7" tablet that was slower than an iPhone 3GS
I really wanted to like the android experience because I don't care about brands,I like to try all the gadgets I can, but it really feels like an iDevice knockoff, it has the looks but lacks the polished functions
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Well, until some other company comes up with their own ideas rather than just "oh, lets make something like that, but cheaper!" no one looks like they're going to take the lead.
To paraphrase Steve Jobs in one of his speeches: we don't skate to where the puck is, we skate to where it is going to be.
I know that sounds like one eyed apple fanboyism, but its true. The rest of the market scoffed at the iPad initially, thought apple were mad, and predicted it to be a flop. Shows how much they know about what people want.
The general public doesn't even know what they want until they see it in action, so building something via committee as is the microsoft way (vs the apple style Jobs/Ive design dictatorship method) is never going to compete. There's no clarity of vision, no focus.
You can see this in both Microsoft and Google at the moment. They're flailing around attempting to build services to mimic whatever apple has succeeded with (iTunes/App store competitor, tablets, etc) rather than creating the next big thing that apple doesn't have yet.
Yes, there are some minor details in their OS that IOS doesn't have for example, but there's no groundbreaking new product out there from anyone.
The transformer is at least trying to be something, however Apple deliberately DIDN'T include a keyboard, etc in the iPad because thats simply an admission that your touch interface has failed, or that you don't know what your product is supposed to be. The iPad is not trying to be a laptop replacement, so it doesn't try to be one. Its a supplementary device.
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You can use that argument against the stylus but it doesn't work against a keyboard yet. A touchscreen keyboard is hardly as easy or efficient as a physical keyboard. I think many people are awaiting a better input method whether it be handwriting recognition, SIRI dictation, swype, etc. The iPad keyboard is great but it's not perfect (though that doesn't mean that Apple/iPad failed).
I don't disagree. Yes, touchscreen keyboards are pretty crap.
However the iPad isn't designed for large amounts of data entry. Thats not what the device is for. If you want to do large amounts of data entry, you use a macbook.
Remember what I said about focus? The iPad isn't trying to be all things to all people. It is a compromise for reading/viewing content while on the go. A keyboard is not essential for that job, and only adds additional weight and less durability. Trying to build a device to do everything just results in a device that is compromised at a lot of the things it does.
Or sign into Kindle store, tap the books you want. Read those books on your PC, MAC, iOS Device, Android Device, Blackberry Device, Kindle Device, Windows Phone Device... Sync page # between all of them and enjoy.
About Apple's leadership
Apple can improve they product line, because they can be fairly certain that people will buy their products. As long as it can offer suppliers contracts for millions of shipments, Apple will be leading the innovation cycle.
It's simply because no one else can afford to develop an expensive product and later just sell a few hundred thousand units.
The only competitors right now are Samsung or HTC, but here's the thing:
They can develop more advanced hardware, but they have no resources nor do they have the experience to support a large customer base with SERVICES.
This is why they will never lead the market, they simply cannot bind the customers. If a person buys a Samsung Galaxy and later buys a Motorola Razr, it's far too risky to develop expensive top-of-the-line products.
I really thought about buying Samsung phones or tablets, but they fail to establish a long lasting relationship with me, because they are just nice hardware that will be replaced pretty quickly.
Apple can lead, because they do not ONLY rely on hardware.
Look at iTunes, App Store, etc.
Apple can improve they product line, because they can be fairly certain that people will buy their products. As long as it can offer suppliers contracts for millions of shipments, Apple will be leading the innovation cycle.
It's simply because no one else can afford to develop an expensive product and later just sell a few hundred thousand units.
The only competitors right now are Samsung or HTC, but here's the thing:
They can develop more advanced hardware, but they have no resources nor do they have the experience to support a large customer base with SERVICES.
This is why they will never lead the market, they simply cannot bind the customers. If a person buys a Samsung Galaxy and later buys a Motorola Razr, it's far too risky to develop expensive top-of-the-line products.
I really thought about buying Samsung phones or tablets, but they fail to establish a long lasting relationship with me, because they are just nice hardware that will be replaced pretty quickly.
Apple can lead, because they do not ONLY rely on hardware.
Look at iTunes, App Store, etc.
books on android?
plug in, drag and drop. you can even drag your folder over. can't do that with itunes. i don't see what the big deal is. i do it all the time.
input?
get a bluetooth keyboard. it's great. android can use a mouse, so that's pretty cool, but on the ipad, the keyboard shortcuts get you surprisingly far.
stylus?
it's great. i love it on the ipad. so far, on the prime i am not impressed. i think it may be how the screen is manufactured.
siri?
no thank you. a waste on my iphone (never use it) and even more of one on the ipad. i'm not thrilled about talking to my ipad.
plug in, drag and drop. you can even drag your folder over. can't do that with itunes. i don't see what the big deal is. i do it all the time.
input?
get a bluetooth keyboard. it's great. android can use a mouse, so that's pretty cool, but on the ipad, the keyboard shortcuts get you surprisingly far.
stylus?
it's great. i love it on the ipad. so far, on the prime i am not impressed. i think it may be how the screen is manufactured.
siri?
no thank you. a waste on my iphone (never use it) and even more of one on the ipad. i'm not thrilled about talking to my ipad.
I think you're defining the iPad for everyone when it's meant to be defined by each individual user. I recently read an article about how many journalists and writers love using the iPad coupled with a keyboard. They prefer the iPad and the keyboard lets them do their work on the iPad instead of having to have a laptop. I doubt they want a built in keyboard but the external keyboard is necessary at certain times. Apple's own commercials are constantly showing the new ways that the iPad is being used. Apple didn't have to specifically design the iPad for every use possible. The App Store and its developers do that.
Artists use the iPad with a stylus to draw. Writers use external keyboards to type. Users have found many ways to turn the iPad into their perfect tool and replace their old tools, which can sometimes be a laptop.