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Any sign of a Mac Pro update?
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There are no 2.93GHz quad core processors in production now for socket 1366 so that might be hard.
IIRC they won't be producing most of the Xeon 3xxx series after the 16th. That will limit Apple's options as far as single socket systems go.
Anyone else care to shed some light on this?
There are 3 price points, just as with Core i7. $284, $562 and $999.
The latest revisions will be 2.8GHz x 4 @ 45nm, 3.2GHz x 4 @ 45nm and 3.33GHz x 6 @ 32nm.
2.8 GHz won't come to life in a MP since the W3530 (2.8 GHz) and the W3565 (3.2 GHz) are the only cpus without Turbo Boost within this family.
If
wants the MPs to still have TB after the update the options are W3540 (2.93 GHz), W3550 (3.06 GHz), W3570 (3.2 GHz) and W3580 (3.33 GHz).2.8 GHz won't come to life in a MP since the W3530 (2.8 GHz) and the W3565 (3.2 GHz) are the only cpus without Turbo Boost within this family.
If
Not sure where you read that but it isn't correct.
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=41313
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=39721
Uh, I have to admit that I used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors for my research. Thanks for reminding me of not-trusting wikipedia all the time.
That 3.33 x 6 option should just obliterate any of the low-end DP boxes. Certainly 2.26 x 4 x 2 is a joke compared to that.
The only possible advantage of the low end DP configuration that Apple sells is that you need to buy a DP machine to get 8 DIMM sockets. But that is a marketing decision anyway. Imagine an SP machine with 6 DIMM sockets. (Everyone else has that). I'd buy one!
It is always a possibility, no one knows. IIRC last year's release was done without much rumor or fanfare.
We will always be waiting on another Tuesday
Looks like another no update Tuesday!
I guess we are looking at the 16th at the earliest now, maybe the Intel exclusivity deal is over?
I guess we are looking at the 16th at the earliest now, maybe the Intel exclusivity deal is over?
Intel still hasn't announced their new CPU's? What is Apple supposed to update with no new CPU?
What time of day does Apple normally announce updates? While it's 9:22 Eastern time right now, it's still just 6:22am in Cupertino.
Because last year, Apple got special treatment and had Intel chips earlier than any other PC vendor out there, and they were able to ship the 09 Mac Pro's ahead of Intel's shipping schedule.
Edit: Sorry, didn't read the last part of your post. Don't get mad at me, it's still early over here!
Or alternatively they broke the NDA and launched early. It hasn't been revealed what happened, but people at Dell and HP were reported to be shocked.
And they TOTALLY screwed it.
Took them 10 month to get their software play well with the new chips.
A little more time in the labs would have been much better than a premature release.
Plausible thought. I hadn't thought about that, but I doubt it would be in Apple's nature to break an NDA, since they themselves are like Nazis when it comes to their own NDS
And they TOTALLY screwed it.
Took them 10 month to get their software play well with the new chips.
A little more time in the labs would have been much better than a premature release.
Hey, that could totally have been the case. Premature release = premature hardware and software integrity. Didn't think of that either. Anything is possible.
But a new single socket system with 6 cores would be faster than Apple's current 4 core single socket system. I'm just hoping Apple keeps a single socket/dual socket product line and offers people up to twelve cores of pure power, or 6 cores of (hopefully) affordability.
Paying $2000 for a six core machine that is faster than the iMac is a lot easier to swallow than the current offering!
At least in my multithreaded apps, more cores are welcome, but they don't offer 8x the performance. A six core could be poised to reach a price/performance ratio for the prosumer market.
Of course, but from a marketing point of view, how would you put it that your new top of the line product is actually slower than the top of the line product from last year?
And they TOTALLY screwed it.
Took them 10 month to get their software play well with the new chips.
A little more time in the labs would have been much better than a premature release.
and you think Microsoft based hardware does any better?
SP and DP models aren't that different. For the LGA1366 Xeons, the only difference board wise is the chipset, which accommodates either single (X58) or dual (5520) QPI channels. There's differences in firmware as well, but that's code, not electronic components.
As the chipset, CPU sockets and DIMM slots are on the daughter board, that's the part that's changed. It's less expensive to do it that way (vs. totally separate boards), though it's not as simple or inexpensive as the previous Intel based MP's (used a single Dual Socket board for both SP and DP systems).
It may only be about their own though.Plausible thought. I hadn't thought about that, but I doubt it would be in Apple's nature to break an NDA, since they themselves are like Nazis when it comes to their own NDS
But I doubt they did, as there could be repercussions with Intel for doing so (presumably, Apple and Intel are still on good terms with one another).This is becoming far too common IMO with both computers vendors and consumer electronics in general. They're in too much of a hurry to get a product shipped (regain profits), so product validation testing isn't anywhere close to thorough.
Plausible thought. I hadn't thought about that, but I doubt it would be in Apple's nature to break an NDA, since they themselves are like Nazis when it comes to their own NDS
Hey, that could totally have been the case. Premature release = premature hardware and software integrity. Didn't think of that either. Anything is possible.
they did get a lot of good press how the Mac Pro was cheaper than comparable products from Dell
Wintel is breaking down so expect to see more of these things. Apple and Microsoft are getting closer while Dell/HP are partnering with Google and ARM