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zim said:
Where did you hear that? I would vote no, untrue. My wife and I would never do such a thing to our dog. Vegetarianism is our decisions not the dogs, our dog has meat in her diet. I will say that we don't give our dog meat from a store, no one should, dogs have a specific diet need and we provide to that.

True, my girlfriend and I feed our cat healthy, organic cat food (regular stuff has put down animals and whatnot in it - it's actually pretty gross), but you can't make decisions like that for a cat or dog. Heck, they're carnivores.
 
vniow said:
...had to wash my dishes extensively so no trace of meat was on them...

I would hope that you would do that regardless. Meat left on a plate could develop into bacteria which could cause sickness not to mention also attract pests such as rodents and insects.
 
zim said:
I would hope that you would do that regardless.

I do. It was more her attitude about it which bugged me. One atom which came from an animal left on a plate would freak her out and subsequently drive me batty.

livingfortoday said:
And, in response to Johnny Rico, you can totally win friends with salad.

I suppose, although it looks to be one type of friend or the other depending on which type of salad.
 
zim said:
I would hope that you would do that regardless. Meat left on a plate could develop into bacteria which could cause sickness not to mention also attract pests such as rodents and insects.
I think the point (and excuse me if I misunderstood) was that you can wash a plate clean using soap and water. But, some people are incredible about not having particulates on the dish, demanding that the dish be sterilized.

Oh, and my aunt and uncle feed their dog only vegetarian food. So, there are people that impose their diets on their animals.
 
nbs2 said:
I think the point (and excuse me if I misunderstood) was that you can wash a plate clean using soap and water. But, some people are incredible about not having particulates on the dish, demanding that the dish be sterilized.

Oh, and my aunt and uncle feed their dog only vegetarian food. So, there are people that impose their diets on their animals.

I guess I would be one of those people then that like dishes washed with soap and water to the point where no particles are left.

As for feeding a dog a vegetarian diet, not being a veterinarian I can't comment and I only can speak upon the behalf of myself and friends and say that we do not inflict our views on our pets. So saying that the comment was untrue wasn't the best wording.
 
iMetroid said:
I hear vegetarians force their muts to eat roots as well. Better be careful. I hear dogs like bones.

I'll stop you there. Where did you hear that rubbish? Dogs are natural carnivores, virtually their entire diet should be meat based.

Take a look at apes in the wild though, and they will eat vegetables, fruits and leaves for weeks at a time, then suddenly go and kill an animal to eat. Humans should eat some meat, but this idea that it should be every day and with every meal is ridiculous. Just marketing from the meat industry that everyone has "swallowed".

Personally, I'm Ovo-lacto-veggie. If I was alone on a desert island and had to survive by eating birds and fish, I'd have no problem doing so, but whilst I have a choice I'll exercise it. I don't lecture meat eaters, and I don't expect them to lecture me, although the latter seems to happen frequently.
 
zim said:
I guess I would be one of those people then that like dishes washed with soap and water to the point where no particles are left.
I ahve to agree with you there - the crusties that result when the dishwasher is too full are among the most annoying things ever (nevermind how annoying it is to have that happen when the item was handwashed).

I do have a question though. I have noticed that when I have vegetarians/vegans over to eat, I will make a concerted effort to cater to their requests. But, when I go to a vegetarians home to eat, the suggestion that meat be consumed in their home is verboten. I will admit that happens less recently than it used to, but I was hoping to find out how vegetarians/vegans feel about that (serving meat in their home) in general.
 
nbs2 said:
But, when I go to a vegetarians home to eat, the suggestion that meat be consumed in their home is verboten. I will admit that happens less recently than it used to, but I was hoping to find out how vegetarians/vegans feel about that (serving meat in their home) in general.

I'll quite happily serve meat that I've bought pre-cooked from the shop to guests, but I've been veggie my entire adult life, so have no idea how long different meats and things should be cooked for. I guess I'm too scared of accidentally poisoning all my friends :eek:
 
nbs2 said:
I ahve to agree with you there - the crusties that result when the dishwasher is too full are among the most annoying things ever (nevermind how annoying it is to have that happen when the item was handwashed).

I do have a question though. I have noticed that when I have vegetarians/vegans over to eat, I will make a concerted effort to cater to their requests. But, when I go to a vegetarians home to eat, the suggestion that meat be consumed in their home is verboten. I will admit that happens less recently than it used to, but I was hoping to find out how vegetarians/vegans feel about that (serving meat in their home) in general.

I will serve meat, but I won't cook it. Mainly just because I honestly don't know how, I've never really worked with it. I usually just serve something vegan that everyone will enjoy, it's a bit of a hassle to make numerous dishes, ya know? If you wanna bring your own, though, feel free.

But not tonight, I'll be at a thing.
 
Vegetarian

It's said that Kiwis, eats, roots, shoots and leaves.

As this thread has been revived, I have been a vegetarian for about 20 years. Not for any religious or esoteric reasons, just that I find it very difficult to digest any meat or fowl or fish. And now even more so after having a good percentage of my gut removed. That though has meant giving nuts and whole seeds away too, which has meant another diversion in my menu planning.
 
I don't eat red meat anymore after going to some restaurant and the burger was horrible. I just went cold turkey after that and haven't touched red meat since. The problem is though that now I can't stand red meat and just the smell of a burger or ham makes me want to barf.
 
KingYaba said:
Giving up meat in my diet would be like sawing off my left arm.

if you're a vegetarian and you saw off your left arm and eat it, are you still a vegetarian?

yes, you willingly gave up your arm for you to eat, but arm is meat.

:D
 
Hey, I realise I'm joining this thread a little late. But, I just wanted to post a comment on the whole veggie dogs thing.
I've got three dogs, all aged 15+ who have eaten veggie dog food their whole lives. http://www.veggiepets.com/
They're all really healthy. I just wanted to post this as well:

World’s old living Dog is a Vegan
Reprinted from Ananova:
27-year-old vegan collie could be world’s oldest living dog
A border collie said to be 27 could make it into the Guinness Book of World Records as the world’s oldest living dog.
Bramble’s owner Anne Heritage says she’s still alert and active and goes for a walk four times a day near her home in Bridgwater, Somerset.
The 43-year-old says she feeds her a vegan diet of rice, lentils and organic vegetables.
Her partner Roy Franklin takes her swimming once a week at a canine hydrotherapy pool.
A Guinness spokesman says the dog could be the oldest living and they are keen to examine any application.
The Daily Mail reports Britain’s oldest dog was a pedigree papillon called Fred who died at the of 29 in 2000. The world’s longest-lived dog was an Australian cattle dog who lived to be just months older than Fred.
Ms Heritage says Bramble nearly died last year after injuring her back in a fall, but has become better with the help of the swimming sessions.
She said: “She loves exercise and has a real passion for being outdoors. She can be a thorn in my side when she’s restless, but it’s what keeps her going.”
 
I think I'd die from starvation if I went vegitarian...I live on meat. I can force myself to eat minestrone soup but that's about in the veg department. I would call myself a chickenatarian. I don't really eat red meat though.
 
I dont eat red meat or fish or pork.

Although, I eat organic red meat on occasion.


And eat chicken like 4 times a week...


My diet is not that strict.
 
I will have dairy, eggs, fish, and seafood, but will only eat chicken once or twice a month (and only because my doctor told me I was missing some essential amino acids after I'd been fishatarian for 10 years, and should eat chicken on occasion). I don't eat any read meat, no beef stock, etc.
 
nbs2 said:
I do have a question though. I have noticed that when I have vegetarians/vegans over to eat, I will make a concerted effort to cater to their requests. But, when I go to a vegetarians home to eat, the suggestion that meat be consumed in their home is verboten. I will admit that happens less recently than it used to, but I was hoping to find out how vegetarians/vegans feel about that (serving meat in their home) in general.
This is an analogy taken to an extreme, but only to illustrate a point. If you knew someone who ate human flesh, would you mind if they ate human flesh in your house?

For a non-vegetarian, there is no moral offense in seeing meat not being eaten. But the other way around can be different for some vegetarians.

It's like wondering why a devout Muslim would be opposed to your drawing pictures of Allah in their house. Or why a devout Christian might not be pleased if you come to their house and do a bit of Satan worship.
 
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