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I had the same experience, which really made me wonder if our bodies were really meant to process dairy.dietcokevanilla said:
I have been a vegetarian now for a year and twenty-two days; it started out as a bet that I ended up loving.
I will never go back to eating any meat, poultry, or fish.
I eat eggs occasionally and milk products are a big part of my diet unfortunately. It would be nice to go to all soy products in place of milk.
I am a vegetarian for almost purely moral reasons at this point though I do feel more healthy; now it is time to give up that pesky tobacco.
I will never go back to eating any meat, poultry, or fish.
I eat eggs occasionally and milk products are a big part of my diet unfortunately. It would be nice to go to all soy products in place of milk.
I am a vegetarian for almost purely moral reasons at this point though I do feel more healthy; now it is time to give up that pesky tobacco.
aristobrat said:
I don't think we are meant for it passed infancy. I don't have facts or figures, but I do know something like 70% of african-americans and over 90% of asian-americans are lactose interollerant.
It's no surprise to me that humans are not meant to drink/eat the lactation of a cow in large quantities, like many Americans do.
Honestly, it would be more natural for us to drink the milk other humans produce...but just think of that for a moment. I sure as heck wouldn't do it.
I was vegetarian for 3 years with my mom, but then somehow we just stopped and started eating chicken again
Josh said:
I don't think we are, but that won't stop me from eating cheese. I just love it too much. I rarely drink milk unless I am doing protein shakes if I am training or something...but cheese? Mmmm cheese.
I think the fact that the body starts producing mucous - an immune response - when we eat dairy is a good sign that we're not meant for it.
I'm hard-pressed to give up cheese, too. I don't buy fancy hard-to-pronounce cheeses or anything, but I love melted cheeses, mexican food, and that sort of thing.
Not drinking a lot of milk makes me an oddball at family dinners. Country fried chicken, porkchops, and potato salad circle the table, with 2 gallons of milk (which will be empty by the time dinner is done) sitting in the middle.
The only milk I "drink" is a little bit I have with cereal in the morning. But now that I've got myself thinking about it..I think I'm going to have to stop w/ the milk all together
Not drinking a lot of milk makes me an oddball at family dinners. Country fried chicken, porkchops, and potato salad circle the table, with 2 gallons of milk (which will be empty by the time dinner is done) sitting in the middle.
The only milk I "drink" is a little bit I have with cereal in the morning. But now that I've got myself thinking about it..I think I'm going to have to stop w/ the milk all together
iGary said:
Supposedly goat milk is not mucous forming after doing a quick google search. That is interesting if nothing else.
Hey, I just noticed that you're in Va Beach too. Was wondering if you'd ever been out to Cora in Ghent, or knew of any vegan places at the beach? I guess we're kinda lucky to have PETA headquartered here or there'd be even less of a local selection.auxplage said:I have been a vegetarian now for a year and twenty-two days; it started out as a bet that I ended up loving.
I will never go back to eating any meat, poultry, or fish.
I eat eggs occasionally and milk products are a big part of my diet unfortunately. It would be nice to go to all soy products in place of milk.
I am a vegetarian for almost purely moral reasons at this point though I do feel more healthy; now it is time to give up that pesky tobacco.
aristobrat said:Hey, I just noticed that you're in Va Beach too. Was wondering if you'd ever been out to Cora in Ghent, or knew of any vegan places at the beach? I guess we're kinda lucky to have PETA headquartered here or there'd be even less of a local selection.
I have never been over there. I shall check it out.
I go to Azaar's frequently; there is one in Norfolk and one in Virginia Beach. It is Lebonese cuisine, so there are obviously many vegetarian choices.
Goat milk is easier to digest and many people that are allergic to cow milk can drink goat milk.
Soy has its own controversies. 80%+ of Soy is genetically modified, the crops are very damaging to the soil, much of the soy consumed in the world is very heavily sprayed with pesticides and soy milk is a highly processed product.
I am not a vegetarian but I love to eat meatless meals most of the time. I enjoy pasta, salads and cooked vegetables. I am allergic to soy so I do like to get protein from pork, chicken and steaks.
Soy has its own controversies. 80%+ of Soy is genetically modified, the crops are very damaging to the soil, much of the soy consumed in the world is very heavily sprayed with pesticides and soy milk is a highly processed product.
I am not a vegetarian but I love to eat meatless meals most of the time. I enjoy pasta, salads and cooked vegetables. I am allergic to soy so I do like to get protein from pork, chicken and steaks.
One of the things I read about cheese (being a huge fan myself) is that cheese has something in it (from milk) called casein that has an addictive property (the purpose of which would be to "addict" the baby into coming back to his mom for more milk so that he grows).Josh said:
It's an interesting Google, anyways. The casein wikipedia page doesn't mention the addictive side at all, but other sites on the web (most that are way pro-vegan) do, so I'm not sure what the total truth is.
I've been a vegetarian for a little over a year now, and I couldn't see myself ever eating meat again. I'm not vegan (because of cheese), but I don't drink milk, and I don't eat gelatin either (which is in quite a lot of candies, unfortunately). I don't eat as much vegetables as I should, but I do a lot of pastas, etc.. like some other people in here posted.
I (HEART) Azars. Great food, the one in Ghent has free WiFi, and the Italian place next to it has the worlds best vegan cheesecake.auxplage said:
It seems like the main-stream soy producers go out of their way to state that they don't use anything genetically modified, so I wonder where all of the GMO stuff is going? And I never thought about the pesticide part of the equation for the non-GMO beans. Ack. Don't scare me.njmac said:
aristobrat said:
This just in: Men may be 'addicted' to boobs.
That's an interesting fact, the addictive property, if true.
I'm vegetarian, trying to get closer to vegan. I've cut out all use of cheese at home and switched to various soy cheeses but I occasionally consume pizza. Whenever we go out for ice cream I get the sorbet which is really good at Coldstone and Maggie Moos. We have completely cut out using eggs at home but when I go out to eat it's hard to order breakfast or something else without some form of egg being there. Unfortunately we have zero completely vegetarian/vegan restaurants here but we do have a few places with vegetarian menus, very few vegan though. I eat at Moes a lot, the Joey Bag of Doughnuts with tofu and mushrooms is awesome.
With time I think my wife and I will be able to make the full vegan jump, it will probably be easier once we move to Portland, OR.
Oh I've been vegetarian for about 9 years now but I had some moments in there where I ate fish and whatnot, but not now.
With time I think my wife and I will be able to make the full vegan jump, it will probably be easier once we move to Portland, OR.
Oh I've been vegetarian for about 9 years now but I had some moments in there where I ate fish and whatnot, but not now.
iGary said:
Well if you look at nature it is completely unnatural for us to consume dairy or drink milk. You only produce milk when/after you are pregnant and for a short period of time. And you don't see people drinking cat milk heh. Very rarely do you see a species of animal consume another species milk.
I was vegetarian for about 10 years, but then started developing one infection after the other (ear infection, bladder infection, etc.), and my doctor determined that I was lacking some essential proteins/amino acids that caused an immune system weakness, and told me to add fish and some chicken to my diet.
I added a little fish and chicken, and haven't had any health problems since. I love the ethical aspect of being vegetarian, but you have to be *very* careful about getting sufficient protein, and getting a variety of different protein sources.
I don't think there's anything wrong with consuming dairy products as long as you choose organic ones (those also have stricter rules in terms of how much space each cow gets to run around, etc, as far as I know). When eating chicken, I do stick with free-range chickens as much as I can, and when eating eggs, I only buy free range/cage free.
Calcium is another concern for vegetarians, especially for women. In general, you have to be very careful about your nutrient intake as a vegetarian. Someone mentioned they like mostly pasta and veggies -- I can almost guarantee that that person will have a serious protein deficiency, and a calcium deficiency.
Regarding calling people who eat fish vegetarians, as far as I know, Europeans do, Americans don't. The word vegetarian simply has different dedfinitions in Europe and the US. In Central Europe, vegetarian means you don't eat chicken or red meat, as fish is not considered meat. In the US, fish is considered meat. No need to be pissed at that, those are simply different meanings of the word vegetarian, and if in doubt, just ask.
I added a little fish and chicken, and haven't had any health problems since. I love the ethical aspect of being vegetarian, but you have to be *very* careful about getting sufficient protein, and getting a variety of different protein sources.
I don't think there's anything wrong with consuming dairy products as long as you choose organic ones (those also have stricter rules in terms of how much space each cow gets to run around, etc, as far as I know). When eating chicken, I do stick with free-range chickens as much as I can, and when eating eggs, I only buy free range/cage free.
Calcium is another concern for vegetarians, especially for women. In general, you have to be very careful about your nutrient intake as a vegetarian. Someone mentioned they like mostly pasta and veggies -- I can almost guarantee that that person will have a serious protein deficiency, and a calcium deficiency.
Regarding calling people who eat fish vegetarians, as far as I know, Europeans do, Americans don't. The word vegetarian simply has different dedfinitions in Europe and the US. In Central Europe, vegetarian means you don't eat chicken or red meat, as fish is not considered meat. In the US, fish is considered meat. No need to be pissed at that, those are simply different meanings of the word vegetarian, and if in doubt, just ask.
true777 said:
Then why is it that societies that traditionally have the lowest rate of milk, dairy and red meat consumption have the lowest rates of osteoporosis?
Just an example...
http://www.milksucks.com/osteo.asp
Saying that, I do like milk in my coffee and eat all the things that aren't that good for you.
In my experience this is not right. In the UK we (vegetarians) don't eat fish. There are some fish eaters who call themselves vegetarian but most would not agree with that description.true777 said:
On a lighter note, when my daughter was very young she told me that she was both a vegetarian and a meat eater - which i guess kind of makes sense!
dietcokevanilla said:
evoluzione said:
Well, I made it to being a vegetarian step-by-step. First red meat, then chicken, then fish (over a period of around six years). While I was on the way, I knew that I wasn't perfect but each step I took was causing a little less suffering in the world. It seems to me better to get there in the end, rather than not at all. So if there are people out there eating fish but not other meat then I say that's a step in the right direction.
I still need to give up wearing leather shoes and I don't think I'm ever gonna make it to being a vegan!
p.s. I get pissed off with people who assume that because I am a vegetarian, I am some sort of health freak!
meat makes me feel physically ill.
on a side note dont you just hate it when people say to you "oh, your not allowed to eat meat are you", i could eat all the meat in the world if i wanted to i just choose not to, they make out like i'm being restricted by some vegetarian religion
oh and i don't drink milk, just because i was milk protein intolerant, cheese is nice and all but i just cant stand milk.
on a side note dont you just hate it when people say to you "oh, your not allowed to eat meat are you", i could eat all the meat in the world if i wanted to i just choose not to, they make out like i'm being restricted by some vegetarian religion
oh and i don't drink milk, just because i was milk protein intolerant, cheese is nice and all but i just cant stand milk.
Hector said:
I think people say that because they have to remember. I have a sister who's entire family (six of them) is vegetarian and I always catch myself going "oh, you can't have that," especially at Thanksgiving, etc.