I originally ordered the Ultra & the 8. I decided a few days ago that I probably wouldn't like it & canceled the Ultra. I decided today that I still want to consider it. I found that the yellow ocean band watch still delivers on the 23rd. I don't want that band so I'll go to the Apple store & exchange it. If they don't have the bands, I'll use my current bands until I get the one that I want. So, if you can deal with getting a different band, you can get the watch in the 23rdThis will be my first cellular watch and I am very excited about that and the more I look at the design the more I fall in love with it. End of October is so far