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Anybody trading in their iPad Air 2's for the iPad Pro?
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I keep thinking about iPad Air vs iPad Pro. Especially for use around home and occasionally taking it somewhere. I think a big part of the appeal of the iPad Pro (for me maybe) is the Pencil and to a lesser extent, the keyboard cover. Of course the large touch screen is quite intriguing too.
I keep thinking though, it's a big expense for the Pro + Pencil + keyboard, essentially like purchasing a Mac. And then if we do see iPads get updated in 2016, there could be a lot of change coming - newer designs (the current chamfered edge design is going on its 4th year now) and 3D Touch. I feel like having an iPad Air 2 right now, 2016 might be the sweet spot in terms of upgrade time, whether to a newer Air or a Pro.
I keep thinking though, it's a big expense for the Pro + Pencil + keyboard, essentially like purchasing a Mac. And then if we do see iPads get updated in 2016, there could be a lot of change coming - newer designs (the current chamfered edge design is going on its 4th year now) and 3D Touch. I feel like having an iPad Air 2 right now, 2016 might be the sweet spot in terms of upgrade time, whether to a newer Air or a Pro.
No. In my eyes the iPad Pro is not an iPad, in the traditional sense. Apple have taken the idea of what an iPad should be and bastardised it. By adding a keyboard case and pen/pencil Apple have almost admitted that their idea of what a tablet should be, and what the iPad has been thus far, is wrong and that the Surface model is the way forward.
Fact remains that the Surface nor the iPad Pro will ever replace the dedicated laptop, a true desktop class device. Sure, you can use the iPad Pro the way we've used traditional iPads to this point, but I think people who buy the Pro to do so are under utilising the machine. Apple clearly marketed the Pro at a certain demographic at the keynote, and that demographic wasn't the Twitter using, Safari browsing, Angry Birds playing, typical iOS users.
For me, the Pro in its true form with keyboard case and pencil is simply not an iPad.
Fact remains that the Surface nor the iPad Pro will ever replace the dedicated laptop, a true desktop class device. Sure, you can use the iPad Pro the way we've used traditional iPads to this point, but I think people who buy the Pro to do so are under utilising the machine. Apple clearly marketed the Pro at a certain demographic at the keynote, and that demographic wasn't the Twitter using, Safari browsing, Angry Birds playing, typical iOS users.
For me, the Pro in its true form with keyboard case and pencil is simply not an iPad.
I use Pixelmator, which on Air 2 is tremendous. Not sure it qualifies as a professional app though with regard to Photo Editing.
I'm thinking buying it.
My 16Gb iPad Air 1 is just, nice, but I'd like more capability. My 2008 MBP has been great but it's old tech now and on it's last leg.
I was hoping the iPad Pro would be the perfect 'in between' (the Air 1 and MBP) device that would be powerful enough and capable enough to be my only go to device. I am a bit concerned about connectivity, I was hoping for USB-C, but a single 'basic' Lightning port looks limiting. Also, other than a couple of software programs I like, I'm not 100% sure I should be disappointed in no OS X.
I have the feeling the Pro 2 is going to make the Pro 1 first adopters regret their purchase.
My 16Gb iPad Air 1 is just, nice, but I'd like more capability. My 2008 MBP has been great but it's old tech now and on it's last leg.
I was hoping the iPad Pro would be the perfect 'in between' (the Air 1 and MBP) device that would be powerful enough and capable enough to be my only go to device. I am a bit concerned about connectivity, I was hoping for USB-C, but a single 'basic' Lightning port looks limiting. Also, other than a couple of software programs I like, I'm not 100% sure I should be disappointed in no OS X.
I have the feeling the Pro 2 is going to make the Pro 1 first adopters regret their purchase.
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Probably, yes. But I think that risk is present no matter when you buy something. Sometimes you get lucky (like with the iPad 2 that lasted long), sometimes you don't (iPad 1 and 3, for example). In the larger picture, a grand for something you intensely use for a year isn't a hugely terrible deal, and it would still have some resell value.
You're probably right. I like the idea of the pro but I have no idea how I'd use it. I could use it for watching videos and it would be better for that than my air 2 but it's not portable and it would render my air 2 useless. I usually take my mini on my daily commute but when on holiday I take my air. I'd never take the pro, it's just too big.
How do you find using the plus and the mini? As I'm thinking of getting the mini on contract and I'm getting the plus of course
I see them as too separate devices. The plus is good but it's still only a phone and when I want to watch videos on my commute the mini is better.
unfortunately it is missing too much and i was scratching my head just to find that for example a basic feature called "invert" for the selection is missing from the app. if you get that for a dollar, get it! if you need to pay the full price, forget it.
I'm not buying an iPad Pro until Apple adds an OSX mode (so it could replace my MacBook Air).
I expect to upgrade to the iPad Air 3 (with a much faster CPU and force touch) early next year.
Nope. If they'd added bluetooth mouse support, completely removed the need to use iTunes on a "real" computer to do some things, made some serious alterations to the way iOS worked overall (user accessible file system & improve select/copy/paste, for starters), and put some sort of USB capability on the thing for using external drives, etc., I'd have been all over it. As it stands right now, it's merely a larger, less portable Air2. And I don't need a less portable iPad that's only minimally more useful for significantly more money.
That said, my expectations for this first so-called "Pro" model were very low. I had hoped to be pleasantly surprised, and I wasn't. With any luck, a year or two or three down the road, we'll see a more functional laptop replacement from Apple. I'm one who already uses my iPad for 95% of what I used to use a laptop for; I'm more than ready to stop using desktops/laptops for the rest.
That said, my expectations for this first so-called "Pro" model were very low. I had hoped to be pleasantly surprised, and I wasn't. With any luck, a year or two or three down the road, we'll see a more functional laptop replacement from Apple. I'm one who already uses my iPad for 95% of what I used to use a laptop for; I'm more than ready to stop using desktops/laptops for the rest.
True.
However, I'm thinking it's often more apparent and the future changes more drastic on a new design rather than one that's just on another upgrade cycle. I think there will be several significant shortcomings that come to light over this first year of use that will make sense for Apple to change or add on to the 2nd model.
I held out with the original iPad 1 for a long time, only upgrading to the iPad Air 2. But I'm eager to trade up to the iPad Pro. I actually tried going smaller with the iPad Mini but it was way too small for my needs. I think the almost 13" Pro will be ideal for me. Day one, in line - that'll be me.
Pencil was made in conjunction with the pro screen. Won't with other iPods like it does with Pro. Go to Apple.com and read about how it works, watch the videos.
The responses on this thread are pretty interesting.
The iPad Pro is a very different beast than the iPad - at the most basic level the 12.9" display means that it will be significantly less portable than the iPad. I mean think about it - the screen is larger than the one on the 12" MacBook.
The iPad Pro is clearly designed for professional use. Based on the demos given at the announcement, it looks like it is aimed at creatives and professionals who need to work extensively with diagrams.
Of course, everyone is arguing that there isn't any good software for this, but you need to realize that this is a essentially new product category, and time is needed to actually develop the software for the platform. This is a very different approach from Microsoft, which initially decided to go the easy route and enable Desktop apps on a tablet form factor, and of course Windows 8 was the resulting disaster. Here Apple wants developers to develop, from scratch, an optimized, fully featured experience on iOS.
And in order to do that, it needed to increase RAM, enable split-screen, and add a stylus and keyboard. Because it's abundantly clear that any extensive productivity work is going to need all that. Otherwise why does Apple still spend so much time developing the MacBook and MacBook Pro?
But therein lies the key difference - the iPad Pro is designed for a touch-first, iOS first productivity experience, not a hybrid experience. And that's what Apple is trying to pull off here. Will they succeed? Microsoft is already developing a cross-platform SDK for Windows 10. Time will tell. But the iPad Pro is not a replacement for the iPad Air any more than the MacBook Air is a replacement for the MacBook Pro. It can be an alternative, but the focus is different.
The iPad Pro is a very different beast than the iPad - at the most basic level the 12.9" display means that it will be significantly less portable than the iPad. I mean think about it - the screen is larger than the one on the 12" MacBook.
The iPad Pro is clearly designed for professional use. Based on the demos given at the announcement, it looks like it is aimed at creatives and professionals who need to work extensively with diagrams.
Of course, everyone is arguing that there isn't any good software for this, but you need to realize that this is a essentially new product category, and time is needed to actually develop the software for the platform. This is a very different approach from Microsoft, which initially decided to go the easy route and enable Desktop apps on a tablet form factor, and of course Windows 8 was the resulting disaster. Here Apple wants developers to develop, from scratch, an optimized, fully featured experience on iOS.
And in order to do that, it needed to increase RAM, enable split-screen, and add a stylus and keyboard. Because it's abundantly clear that any extensive productivity work is going to need all that. Otherwise why does Apple still spend so much time developing the MacBook and MacBook Pro?
But therein lies the key difference - the iPad Pro is designed for a touch-first, iOS first productivity experience, not a hybrid experience. And that's what Apple is trying to pull off here. Will they succeed? Microsoft is already developing a cross-platform SDK for Windows 10. Time will tell. But the iPad Pro is not a replacement for the iPad Air any more than the MacBook Air is a replacement for the MacBook Pro. It can be an alternative, but the focus is different.
I might. I am currently using an iPad Mini (broke my Air) and I'm considering swapping my phone up to the plus size. I'm a graphic artist as well as a filmmaker so the iPad Pro has an appeal. But an iPad Pro, a Mini and a 6S+ seems like overkill.
So my game plan is to get the iPhone, see how it feels to retire the Mini and if it seems to be working yeah I'll try to cash in the Mini against the Pro
not really. Neither is required. And it's become clear from third party sales that some folks want a keyboard and/or stylus. Apple likely just figured if folks were going to want it they should have the best available. And Apple figures if you want the best for use with their stuff, they would be the ones to make it.
I'm not, since I just bought my iPad air 2 in July on sale. I don't upgrade iPads like my phones. My last
ipad was iPad 2, which I still have. One thing that turns me off about the pro is the larger size and weight.
ipad was iPad 2, which I still have. One thing that turns me off about the pro is the larger size and weight.
I have personally been wanting a bigger iPad since I started using mine as my main music sheet reader.
I assume many will not notice how much of a big thing this bigger screen size device is for musicians. Since the size of the iPad pro is basically the same as a typical A4, I am just sold!. I will be trading my iPad air for an ipad pro quite soon
Ditto. I have a Mini for reading books and taking to the gym. My Air2 is for sheet music and reading newspapers and magazines. I cannot wait to have the Pro for the sheet music alone! The RAM and processor are just icing for me. I am really eager to download sheet music and have all that screen space to view it. I will sell the Air2 and use the Pro and Mini.
Yup, this "Pro" (musician) is looking forward to it not only for music reading, but also the various music productions apps that I currently use TWO iPads for. Right now I use a 3 and an Air, with the odd iPod Touch thrown in. Add in a Pro and I maybe I can stack them all together and look like an iPad Keith Emerson. lol
