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Yes! I realized awhile ago physical media gives corporations too much control. Especially for gaming, I’m buying games on physical media for my switch

I even made a physical version of one of my Gameboy games which I’m pretty excited about. It really does work on a real gameboy
 
Yes! I realized awhile ago physical media gives corporations too much control. Especially for gaming, I’m buying games on physical media for my switch

I even made a physical version of one of my Gameboy games which I’m pretty excited about. It really does work on a real gameboy
do you mean streaming/cloud services gives corporate interests too much control?
 
I aim for a compromise of both physical and digital, where what I consider to be my 'desert island' media is always physical everything else digital.

Why? Because in some (not all) cases, having a physical version of something is just more enjoyable. I think of them as treats.

Sometimes it is a memory, like a specific video game cartridge or a VHS tape. But for content I watch/listen to, there has to be some sensibility.

Case in point: 4K UHDs. I'm a latecomer to 4K TVs and have enjoyed 1080p content even when it's just upscaled, and have found that streamed movies are perfectly suitable for my needs. But there are just some movies that I treasure and I want to see and hear in the absolute best possible way; which is why I justified spending on a 4K UHD player.

Now, is everyone going to be bothered by the differences between a streamed 4K and disc 4K? Most likely not. Even I shouldn't be, I mean I watched mini VHS tapes from a camcorder on a small CRT TV (if you can watch this you can watch anything) but it matters to me, and from what I can tell a streamed 4K movie is about the equivalent of a good regular Blu-ray Disc. Fine for most needs. And I will say that iTunes Movies are a very good stream quality.

Where I own a movie digitally, it's purely a 'nice to have' and I don't care too much about aesthetics. But for something like Raiders of the Lost Ark, Alien, Blade Runner, I had to own the disc and I don't regret them. The cost was going from around £4 a movie to £18, but again it's a treat.

With music, my logic is different. Roughly 2/3 of my library are iTunes purchases and I'm very happy with them - particularly that it's all backed up on an external drive, in case the songs are removed from iTunes. I can justify this because to spend £10 p.m. on Apple Music, I would need to buy 10 songs a month, which I won't do.

Digital music makes up 95% of my owned music, the 5% being vinyl records. Again, why? In this case, I just love the sound and experience of analogue output. It takes me back to when I was young and we had no choice but to use patience to sit and experience an album the way it was intended. Because new vinyls are so expensive now - anywhere between £20-30 - I only buy my desert island albums that I love from start to finish.

In some cases, physical media can become rare. In others, it’s a matter of specificity: for instance a movie may have a really good master one year, but then years later the studio messes things up. That digital version you once loved is now gone and replaced with a worse version (cough… Terminator 2…)

Then there are releases that may only be available on physical media or in a special format. For instance, WB will soon release a Tom and Jerry Complete Collection, the first of its kind uncut with every original episode. A fan simply isn’t going to pass up that opportunity - like me! - to own childhood memories in a great format that they can proudly have on their shelf and possibly pass down to my own children.

I've enjoyed this thread and can appreciate many thoughts. I grew up with the likes of cassettes, vinyls, VHS tapes and radios, and whilst I am sentimental towards them, I also recognise there is a danger of believing they are better just because you can hold them and own them. In reality, much like when I last hooked up my old Super Nintendo, I realised what I missed wasn't simply the console or the games, but the life that I was in when I played them.
 
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I've started a pretty dope record collection. I've also returned to......other.......forms of digital media since too many things have just magically disappeared from streaming.
 
Both yes and no. I own a handful of my favorite movies and tv shows physically (Blu-Ray and 4K), and I keep adding to that collection now and again. However, I mostly use streaming via the Apple TV as that is the smoothest and easiest way to consume entertainment for me.
 
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I don't hate streaming, per se, but if you don't own the media, you don't own crap. I'm not a gamer, but if I were, I'd also have a lot of hate for EA and the other game makers who can just remove a game from practical existence.

I don't really want to comment in detail about my arrangements, but suffice it to say I was glad to leave the days of broadcast only and even VHS for the world of DVD and Blu-ray, and the world of cassettes for CDs, and if I need something as files, I'll produce my own, tyvm.

On the gaming side, I think it's why many folk still love PS4 and particularly PS3.
The latter of which is still from an era where fully complete games shipped on disc.
 
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I am not returning to physical media but I did set up a home media server to get rid of my subscriptions using a 2009 Mac mini and Openmediavault/jellyfin. It runs great. It's a little slow to start the movies/shows at first (1 min load time) but once it's running, it does a good job. Best use of this computer I had laying around. And it feels great displaying and giving it use. Otherwise most of my console games are still physical.
 

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You joke, but there was a worrying trend about 10 years ago when Urban Outfitters in the US started selling cassette albums...
Even in the late 80s when I was first buying music, I knew better than to buy anything on a cassette, given that a) they sound like crap, b) cassettes can and do get eaten by decks and c) if you buy an LP, you're almost certainly going to also tape a copy for your boombox/car, and probably on a higher quality Maxell or something, vs the crappy brittle shells the prerecorded ones came with. (Sorry, this is like a 30 year old take but I still have opinions!)
 
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I aim for a compromise of both physical and digital, where what I consider to be my 'desert island' media is always physical everything else digital.

Why? Because in some (not all) cases, having a physical version of something is just more enjoyable. I think of them as treats.

Sometimes it is a memory, like a specific video game cartridge or a VHS tape. But for content I watch/listen to, there has to be some sensibility.

Case in point: 4K UHDs. I'm a latecomer to 4K TVs and have enjoyed 1080p content even when it's just upscaled, and have found that streamed movies are perfectly suitable for my needs. But there are just some movies that I treasure and I want to see and hear in the absolute best possible way; which is why I justified spending on a 4K UHD player.

Now, is everyone going to be bothered by the differences between a streamed 4K and disc 4K? Most likely not. Even I shouldn't be, I mean I watched mini VHS tapes from a camcorder on a small CRT TV (if you can watch this you can watch anything) but it matters to me, and from what I can tell a streamed 4K movie is about the equivalent of a good regular Blu-ray Disc. Fine for most needs. And I will say that iTunes Movies are a very good stream quality.

Where I own a movie digitally, it's purely a 'nice to have' and I don't care too much about aesthetics. But for something like Raiders of the Lost Ark, Alien, Blade Runner, I had to own the disc and I don't regret them. The cost was going from around £4 a movie to £18, but again it's a treat.

With music, my logic is different. Roughly 2/3 of my library are iTunes purchases and I'm very happy with them - particularly that it's all backed up on an external drive, in case the songs are removed from iTunes. I can justify this because to spend £10 p.m. on Apple Music, I would need to buy 10 songs a month, which I won't do.

Digital music makes up 95% of my owned music, the 5% being vinyl records. Again, why? In this case, I just love the sound and experience of analogue output. It takes me back to when I was young and we had no choice but to use patience to sit and experience an album the way it was intended. Because new vinyls are so expensive now - anywhere between £20-30 - I only buy my desert island albums that I love from start to finish.

In some cases, physical media can become rare. In others, it’s a matter of specificity: for instance a movie may have a really good master one year, but then years later the studio messes things up. That digital version you once loved is now gone and replaced with a worse version (cough… Terminator 2…)

Then there are releases that may only be available on physical media or in a special format. For instance, WB will soon release a Tom and Jerry Complete Collection, the first of its kind uncut with every original episode. A fan simply isn’t going to pass up that opportunity - like me! - to own childhood memories in a great format that they can proudly have on their shelf and possibly pass down to my own children.

I've enjoyed this thread and can appreciate many thoughts. I grew up with the likes of cassettes, vinyls, VHS tapes and radios, and whilst I am sentimental towards them, I also recognise there is a danger of believing they are better just because you can hold them and own them. In reality, much like when I last hooked up my old Super Nintendo, I realised what I missed wasn't simply the console or the games, but the life that I was in when I played them.
This is an excellent post and description of intent and reasoning and it's something of a similar philosophy that I have for my own media consumption.

For most of my gaming collection I have a physical-first mentality due to the inherent re-saleability for anything I wouldn't bother playing again as well as to ensure I have a copy of those that I choose to keep.

For music I mostly collect mp3s and other music files saved in a few different places for backup as an insurance of access but I also have specific albums on cd and cassette that I either have had since I was a child/teen or picked up along the way as a means of collecting what I consider to be "must-own". I do also still use streaming for discoverability of new stuff that I may or may not choose to collect in various formats depending on how much I'm moved by the particular song/album/project.

The music portion of that crosses over into how I consume movies/tv also. I have some shows and movies (especially anime due to the sometimes fleeting nature of access of certain shows) physically that I want to ensure absolute access to but for other stuff I would consider "watch once or twice and be finished with it" type media I'm fine with streaming, but once again if moved by it enough I may purchase physically.
 
...Case in point: 4K UHDs. I'm a latecomer to 4K TVs and have enjoyed 1080p content even when it's just upscaled, and have found that streamed movies are perfectly suitable for my needs. But there are just some movies that I treasure and I want to see and hear in the absolute best possible way; which is why I justified spending on a 4K UHD player.
When 4K first hit the box stores I saw a side-by-side demo of the same video on two adjacent TVs. I could see the difference from about 2' away, but from normal viewing distance I couldn't. This was many years ago, and I'm 65 now. The difference between VHS and DVD was easily obvious, between DVD and Bluray was mostly obvious, but between Bluray (1080p 4K) and 4K UHD (21xx-p, hope I got that right) well, my old eyes can't see it.

When OLED first came out, I could see the difference between it and LEDs on the back wall of Best Buy, just as I walked thru the door, but this was dynamic range (blacks vs whites) and not resolution (again, where a guy my age has to be 2' away to see it).

I finally got a Sony OLED to replace my 14-yr-old LG LED, a year or so ago, and it's stunning. I upgraded my EweTubeTV to 4K ($5 extra/month) but soon cancelled it, as there was very little 4K programs available, and the few there were (last year's SuperBowl) I again couldn't really see the difference. I'll take the $5. The 4K screen-savers built into my Apple TV 4K are stunning, but there I think its the HDR that's added, and not the resolution, that catches my eye (looove those night shots of large cityscapes like Dubai and Hong Kong!)

I could/would make the same argument for 44.1, "CD-quality" audio vs. "Hi-Rez" audio, but that's even more contentious and deserves its own thread (I'm gonna get roasted enough with the above!)
 
I have always been an early adopter; Betamax, VHS, Laser disc, DVD, Blue-Ray, 4K, and while I stream Netflix, Prime, and a few others, there is nothing like watching a 4K UHD Blue-Ray disc in my basement theater on a front projection 2.35:1 aspect ratio screen. I don't buy nearly as many though. The new content just isn't as appealing and I find myself buying old classics.

I still buy CDs and want to own my favorite music but rip them in ALAC and FLAC for playback. I use an Oppo to play SACDs and DVD-As though.

I am late to music streaming and just bought my first streamer and started a Qobuz trial. 24/192 high res music does sound amazing on my 2-channel system. I don't see it replacing records for me though, there is something special to them for me.
 
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I have always been an early adopter; Betamax, VHS, Laser disc, DVD, Blue-Ray, 4K, and while I stream Netflix, Prime, and a few others, there is nothing like watching a 4K UHD Blue-Ray disc in my basement theater on a front projection 2.35:1 aspect ratio screen. I don't buy nearly as many though. The new content just isn't as appealing and I find myself buying old classics.

I still buy CDs and want to own my favorite music but rip them in ALAC and FLAC for playback. I use an Oppo to play SACDs and DVD-As though.

I am late to music streaming and just bought my first streamer and started a Qobuz trial. 24/192 high res music does sound amazing on my 2-channel system. I don't see it replacing records for me though, there is something special to them for me.
The analog sound of records is appealing as I remembered, but when CD’s came out I was done with the static crackling and the occasion scratch that would repeat the same thing over and over UNTIL you hold down the needle until it rides over the scratch…those were the days..but when CD’s came out, the records went. Never looked back then..

But…I throw out CD’s and rebuy them as I ripped them to iTunes then rebuy again because I get tired of streaming - but my generation (possibly many) like to put a disk into a player and press play (or on my 4k Sony remote) instead of streaming. Doesn’t seem the same with streaming though convenient..

As far as quality for me, 4K or 1080p HD is best as anything higher is not too appealing to me anymore. I don’t need to see someone’s nose pours or the bad makeup job they had from lazy makeup artist on set…LOL shows were I came from. LOL

Sometimes we have to get to the point where enough is enough as far as hearing a pen drop or colors as vibrant to the unreal. When we get older, our eyes get old too and don’t care as much anymore. We just enjoy what we can see and hear and thankful I still can. 😀 as the abuse of both also shows my generation…X
 
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The analog sound of records is appealing as I remembered, but when CD’s came out I was done with the static crackling and the occasion scratch that would repeat the same thing over and over UNTIL you hold down the needle until it rides over the scratch…those were the days..but when CD’s came out, the records went. Never looked back then..

But…I throw out CD’s and rebuy them as I ripped them to iTunes then rebuy again because I get tired of streaming - but my generation (possibly many) like to put a disk into a player and press play (or on my 4k Sony remote) instead of streaming. Doesn’t seem the same with streaming though convenient..

As far as quality for me, 4K or 1080p HD is best as anything higher is not too appealing to me anymore. I don’t need to see someone’s nose pours or the bad makeup job they had from lazy makeup artist on set…LOL shows were I came from. LOL

Sometimes we have to get to the point where enough is enough as far as hearing a pen drop or colors as vibrant to the unreal. When we get older, our eyes get old too and don’t care as much anymore. We just enjoy what we can see and hear and thankful I still can. 😀 as the abuse of both also shows my generation…X

4K on a large screen is noticeable to me, it is even noticeable on my 77 inch 4K OLED. Add UHD, HDR, and 11 speakers and 3 subwoofers and it is an experience I prefer to the best theaters.

My record experience isn't the same as yours and sounds incredible. My older records can sometimes have a few slight pops here and there but nothing that is ofton noticed at all.

I built storage for my DVDs and Blue-Rays that is now almost full. This is an old picture. Most my CDs are stored in another room but my favorites are in my office as well as my SACDs and DVD-A discs. My LP collection is modest but rapidly growing.

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I still collect physical media such as DVD, Blu-Rays and (mostly) 4K Blu-Rays now and through the advent of the digital copy and some movie & TV show purchases through the store I've amassed a large digital collection as well, especially since creating a Plex server, which is obviously still through my physical disks, just digitized now. 😜

But I pretty much stopped buying physical music in 2015 when Apple Music came out. iTunes Match allowed my whole library to be uploaded to the Cloud before AM which is something I kinda regret now, as everything is intermingled with my physical purchases, digital purchases and Apple Music.

I don't think I can ever go back to physical music, at least.
 
4K on a large screen is noticeable to me, it is even noticeable on my 77 inch 4K OLED. Add UHD, HDR, and 11 speakers and 3 subwoofers and it is an experience I prefer to the best theaters.

My record experience isn't the same as yours and sounds incredible. My older records can sometimes have a few slight pops here and there but nothing that is ofton noticed at all.

I built storage for my DVDs and Blue-Rays that is now almost full. This is an old picture. Most my CDs are stored in another room but my favorites are in my office as well as my SACDs and DVD-A discs. My LP collection is modest but rapidly growing.

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Nice setup. I am sure when it is time for a flick or listening to music it is ideal more so than going to the movies now. Not a lot of good options to see now (on occasion) so the old stuff can be a new experience with a good home setup.

With records in those days, if there was too much static in the air, we would have a spray bottle and lightly spray some water mist on the record while playing. Just a bit..and crackles were gone. I don’t recommend doing that today, but they were the tricks we used to get a clean recording when we transferred record recordings to cassettes for our use.

Seems like another lifetime with tech so advanced now.
 
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This is an excellent post and description of intent and reasoning and it's something of a similar philosophy that I have for my own media consumption.

For most of my gaming collection I have a physical-first mentality due to the inherent re-saleability for anything I wouldn't bother playing again as well as to ensure I have a copy of those that I choose to keep.

For music I mostly collect mp3s and other music files saved in a few different places for backup as an insurance of access but I also have specific albums on cd and cassette that I either have had since I was a child/teen or picked up along the way as a means of collecting what I consider to be "must-own". I do also still use streaming for discoverability of new stuff that I may or may not choose to collect in various formats depending on how much I'm moved by the particular song/album/project.

The music portion of that crosses over into how I consume movies/tv also. I have some shows and movies (especially anime due to the sometimes fleeting nature of access of certain shows) physically that I want to ensure absolute access to but for other stuff I would consider "watch once or twice and be finished with it" type media I'm fine with streaming, but once again if moved by it enough I may purchase physically.

I'm a very casual gamer these days and I think like you about physical. But I've noticed modern games rely on the updates and patches on games in order to play. do we risk the disc being redundant if the console insists on us downloading an update? or say when game is old, the disc won't work because the server won't let you play it?
 
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