Anyone else think Apple is releasing a new device?

[SporkLover]

So the 200 or so people who voted they wanted a bigger screen speaks for the millions of other people who have iphones right?! Get real bro not everyone wants a 5" iPhone. I for damn sure don't want a phone that big.

Guess you don't understand what I was saying above so I'll try to word it better for you.

I use my iPhone as my all in one device. Voice recording, GPS, Camera, Gaming, Netflix, Pda, Phone, E-reader, Music player, etc.

None of that requires quad core processing.

Having quad core would be an absolute waste of battery.

Hope that helps

I've actually read that in average use profiles, more cores can mean lower power consumption, because the processing is divided amongst the multiple cores and they can be in their low power states.

 

[SporkLover]

Apple has become the most valuable company in the world by selling a 3.5 inch screen iPhone and 9.7 inch screen iPad.

Samsung has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 5.3 inch screen galaxy note.

Amazon has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 7 inch screen Kindle Fire.

I say that Apple will continue doing what has worked for them so far...

I think you missed what has apple win the market. It's not the form factor of the devices, it's the ecosystem......albeit devices are a very important piece of that ecosystem. With the original IPod and iTunes, they created a way of consuming music and made it easy for the users. They introduced a novel way of buying music, Ala carte for a low price per track. Then they expanded into video.... And now they are into apps. The devices are very good, but they are just a means to an end....... They can afford an change in that area to keep up with the times and consumer demand.

I personally think that the strength of the ecosystem can carry them only so far, if they don't offer an iPhone with a bigger screen, they'll see users jump to another platform.

 

[chambone]

that's because times have changed. More people than ever are using their phones as a mobile entertainment device, not just their phone. It's not a certain type of category either, it's thE vast majority. Read that article saying 90% of people want bigger phones again.

That article, and all other articles that refer to the same survey don't mean ****, because we can't inspect the damn survey itself. Why do I have to explain this to you? The people that carried out this survey want 2000 bucks for the report. The "90% of people" that you speak of could be 90% of 500 people for all we know. This company's main business is making money off large companies by surveying things they think might be of interest to those same companies. To us mere mortals, even the poll on this very website that was linked to earlier in this thread is more significant. Your 'vast majority' premise isn't based on anything really.

 

[jeffe]

You really should not be so quick to discount it either. Have an open mind.

That article, and all other articles that refer to the same survey don't mean ****, because we can't inspect the damn survey itself. Why do I have to explain this to you? The people that carried out this survey want 2000 bucks for the report. The "90% of people" that you speak of could be 90% of 500 people for all we know. This company's main business is making money off large companies by surveying things they think might be of interest to those same companies. To us mere mortals, even the poll on this very website that was linked to earlier in this thread is more significant. Your 'vast majority' premise isn't based on anything really.

 

[chambone]

Wirelessly posted

Well, you're right, and I'm not discounting anything at all. My problem is that half the web seems to be claiming that almost everybody wants a bigger screen on their smartphone based on nothing else but a survey that nobody has access to.

 

[Moonjumper]

Yes we do know what happened. Android overtook iphone and now owns a larger share of the market than Apple and it's growing daily. Go look in the thread here about making the switch to Android. Most of the users cite larger screens for the main reason they switched to Android.

A lot of those Android phones are cheap, small screened devices. Apple is not competing with those in that same way that it does not compete with cheap, bottom end laptops.

 

[Jordan921]

How is a 4" or 4.3" phone a mini tablet? People like you who talk about "If I want a tablet I'll just use my iPad" are going to be the same people who will be pre-ordering the next iPhone even if it was 5".

Just because YOU don't want a bigger phone doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either.

Did I say 4-4.3" was a mini tablet? No I didn't. But a 5-7" is and I for one will not be upgrading to a phone that big.

 

[-aggie-]

That article, and all other articles that refer to the same survey don't mean ****, because we can't inspect the damn survey itself. Why do I have to explain this to you? The people that carried out this survey want 2000 bucks for the report. The "90% of people" that you speak of could be 90% of 500 people for all we know. This company's main business is making money off large companies by surveying things they think might be of interest to those same companies. To us mere mortals, even the poll on this very website that was linked to earlier in this thread is more significant. Your 'vast majority' premise isn't based on anything really.

You obviously don't understand what makes a survey accurate, if you think it's based on the number of people surveyed.

 

[fertilized-egg]

Did I say 4-4.3" was a mini tablet? No I didn't. But a 5-7" is and I for one will not be upgrading to a phone that big.

All the rumors point towards Apple releasing a smaller iPad at 7.85", not a bigger iPhone so you can rest easy.

7.85" might sound small, but it'll have the same height as a 8.9" Android tablet does and the overall surface area would be slightly bigger than a 8" Android tablet's so it might be a viable alternative. More interesting part is that Apple is rumored to be trying to minimize the bezel size on it, which will make it a very interesting proposition.

I suspect this might be the year Apple will really try to minimize bezels on iPhone and other devices like the rumored mini iPad if that gets released. I wonder how they'll handle the accidental touches when you hold it though.

 

[mbell1975]

I would rather have a 5 inch device ora larger iphone than a 7 but whatever. What would be ideal IMO is a 4 inch iPhone, a 7 inch device and then the iPad.

 

[macMD]

Apple has become the most valuable company in the world by selling a 3.5 inch screen iPhone and 9.7 inch screen iPad.

Samsung has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 5.3 inch screen galaxy note.

Amazon has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 7 inch screen Kindle Fire.

I say that Apple will continue doing what has worked for them so far...



Fixed that for you

Not everyone will want a bigger screen. Don't assume you know what the majority wants based on your own personal wants/desires.

Actually Apple has become the most profitable company for many reasons and the screen size is not the primary factor. I chose to get an iPhone for iOS and personally hate the 3.5" screen. In order for me to upgrade or stay it will take more than LTE. Clearly given the fact that nearly every Android phone today is 4" or bigger and Android OS outsells iOS in the US means that no one wants a bigger screen, really. Must have missed that one.

 

[b166er]

I don't think Apple is going to release a new device this year, aside from possibly their TV set.

Traditionally Apple does not go first. They wait to see what's new and exciting, and then they make their own version of it. The iPad is *kind of* the exception. More or less every Apple product is not an original idea. Apple does however usually take all that existing tech and turn it into a really nice product that sells like hotcakes.

Since no one else as really released a "new" device recently I don't think Apple has to make the first move since they are not loosing out on a specific market.

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Android OS outsells iOS in the US means that no one wants a bigger screen, really. Must have missed that one.

Android outsells iOS, but android is available on dozens of different devices of all shapes, sizes, and uses. iOS is limited to a pretty small family of devices.

I get what you're saying, I just don't think that sales of android are any kind of indication of people jumping the iOS ship.

 

[pooleman]

I do NOT want Apple to release a new device. The iPhone is great, the iPad is great. Apple does what it does very well and is VERY successful. I doubt that Apple will pour a lot of money into a brand new product when iPhone, iPad, and MAC sales are doing very well.

If these product's sales started to decline and the consumer base started to dwindle then a new device would emerge. But at this point I think Apple stands to earn more money by improving on the already impressive products that are selling like hotcakes. Software improvements and increased usability of these products will better serve Apple profits.

 

[macMD]

I would agree, my post was more about the different screen sizes being offered and the fact that there is significant choice with Android vs iOS. Choice in configuration, mfg, UI, etc. I have used every OS except for Symbian & Meego and if I could get a 3.7-4" iPhone I would be happier, much happier.

 

[aztooh]

So, 245 people on a forum of 684,189 members is everybody?

Not to mention that your average iPhone user is not on this forum.

And how many of those 684k people are actually active and posting regularly?

You actually think most people who buy iPhones are techi-nerds like macrumor members? Not a chance...

Macrumors members are a small drop in the ocean of iPhone users to Apple. Even if every single one of us on the forum wanted a larger screen (which not all of us do) that doesn't mean Apple should or will change anything.

Everyone said this last iPhone keynote that Apple MUST have a bigger screen otherwise it would fall behind Android devices with bigger screens. Well... we all know what happened. Apple came out with another 3.5 inch screen and all the doom-and-gloom people were predicting was hogwash. Apple ended up becoming the most valuable company in the world and I can't see them changing what works.

Yes, forum regulars make up a small % of total users, but you guys make it seem that everyone not on the forums is just 100% cool with a 3.5" screen.

Apple doesn't sell millions of iPhones because of the small screen. They sell so many because iOS is so easy to use (to a fault, for some), not to mention a little thing called the App Store. I steered my mom to an iPhone because there was a very little learning curve coming from a feature phone. She wishes it had a larger display. I know several other people w/iPhones. I have not asked all of them, but the ones I have asked, want a larger screened iPhone.

It's called a trade off. Having the best selection of apps, and an easy to use OS is more important than some extra screen real estate. Doesn't mean they PREFER 3.5". It just means the place more importance on other factors.

 

[VulchR]

I pretty much assume Apple will introduce a larger screen on the iPhone when they are certain it does not hinder usability (e..g., battery performance). They certainly won't invest in an iPhone model with a larger screen unless it is clearly going to outshine the competition. Sounds to me that so far they are unconvinced the technology is there yet but I assume they're working on it.

 

[Darthdingo]

Battery life will be terrible on the HTC One X compared to the iPhone... book it.

Android is a battery hog
LTE is a battery hog
4.7 inch screen is a battery hog
Quad core is a battery hog

Wow First off the U.S. version for Sprint is said to be packing a 2600mh battery, that should help a lot. Quad Core is NOT a battery hog, it is actually more efficient. Yes true 4G/LTE can be a hog, but just turn it off when you don't require it.

The U.S version of the HTC One X will be a very nice phone, probably the best Android device other than the Galaxy S3.

 

[cmChimera]

Wow First off the U.S. version for Sprint is said to be packing a 2600mh battery, that should help a lot. Quad Core is NOT a battery hog, it is actually more efficient. Yes true 4G/LTE can be a hog, but just turn it off when you don't require it.

The U.S version of the HTC One X will be a very nice phone, probably the best Android device other than the Galaxy S3.

Quad cores don't help your battery. I'm not sure why you think that.

Battery life will be terrible on the HTC One X compared to the iPhone... book it.

Android is a battery hog
LTE is a battery hog
4.7 inch screen is a battery hog
Quad core is a battery hog

All this on a mere 1800mAh battery? Yuck!

At least Samsung was decent enough to put a 2500mAh battery in the Galaxy Note to try and make it through a full day

Dual core processor's are beating quad cores too in benchmarks too. No one should want a Tegra 3.

 

[surjavarman]

Apple has become the most valuable company in the world by selling a 3.5 inch screen iPhone and 9.7 inch screen iPad.

Samsung has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 5.3 inch screen galaxy note.

Amazon has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 7 inch screen Kindle Fire.

I say that Apple will continue doing what has worked for them so far...



Fixed that for you

Not everyone will want a bigger screen. Don't assume you know what the majority wants based on your own personal wants/desires.

If they continue to be static they will end up like Nokia, Blackberry, Microsoft, Yahoo, tons tons more

Those used to be the companies with successful formulas look where they are now.


Oh we are apple we are successful because of our 3.5" and 9.7" devices. This formulas work. Lets do this for the next 20 years. I am sorry but that would really be the dumbest thing ever.

 

[Darthdingo]

Easily the dumbest post ever. If they continue to be static they will end up like Nokia, Blackberry, Microsoft, Yahoo, tons tons more

Those used to be the companies with successful formulas look where they are now.


Oh we are apple we are successful because of our 3.5" and 9.7" devices. This formulas work. Lets do this for the next 20 years. I am sorry but that would really be the dumbest thing ever.

Thank-you. Just because Apple is the top dog right now in 2012, does not mean they will continue on that trend for the next five years. Look at RIM in the mid 2000's, Blackberry was the king of all phones at the time, they dominated the market, who would have thought just five years later they would be in such a poor spot. Look at Android, when they first launched the G1, people laughed at it as the iPhone wannabe, and Android was just a piss poor phone OS in 2008, fast forward just 3-1/2 years and with Android 4.0 ICS, they have become night and day better, and extremely successful.

I still think with the unfortunate early death of Steve Jobs, that Apple will start to slowly go down. But NOT right away, I knew the 4S would be a giant seller, and I think if Apple release a big revised iPhone this Fall, it will be an even more successful launch, and their best ever.

I am talking more like the iPhone7 and stuff Jobs had no involvement in, like the iPhone of 2014, might not sell as well as the 4S ? With Windows phone really rocking in the next couple of years, and Android finally smoothing everything out, and getting great battery life, I think Apple will have some hard competition.

 

[gngan]

So you want a phone with a slower processor, small screen and you don't want LTE? Wow...

I am not sure if the HTC One is 'faster' or not but it was stated that iPhone's is more efficient using it's processor even it has less processor. Frankly, i am quite happy with the speed of my 4S. If you buy things because of 'update' then you will be changing your things every week. Do you change your PC whenever there is an update?

I would love to have a 3.7'' or 4'' iPhone but it doesn't bother me to own a 3.5''. I am happy with my 3G speed and battery life. Will i give up on my battery life because of LTE? Probably not because my 4S is already using more/same battery than my 3GS.

 

[mbell1975]

Getting back to my original point with this thread, I think Apple is gearing up for something more than the iPhone. This report saying an additional 18,000 workers have been hired

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1353069/


However, I do NOT think its for the new iPhone. I think its for this new device. They wouldn't put out a new iPhone hardly 8 months after the last one and they wouldn't need thousands of extra workers to hurry an iPhone not launching till Oct. I am thinking they are going to announce something in the 5-7 inch range at MWC in June. A cross between the iPhone and iPad, for several reasons. First, it will give everyone begging for an iPhone with a bigger screen a device they can use. It will also meet the needs of those looking for a smaller iPad. Second, it can directly compete with the Kindle Fire and the Galaxy Note, two huge sellers running Android. Thats if Apple prices it between the iPhone and the iPad which they should, something around $250-$299.

Then I think they will launch the new iPhone in Oct and it will stay 3.5 inches. Jobs had a huge hand in the next iPhone. Reportedly ignoring the 4s to do so and we all know he was adamant about keeping it a small size. So Apple can do a lot of good with this new device. Give everyone a larger iPhone like device but also a smaller iPad like device to compete with that growing segment of the market. Now it just needs a name...

 

[Interstella5555]

So basically instead of software fragmentation you want hardware fragmentation? What need would this fulfill? So you can walk around with and claim that you have a screen size to match every odd number before 10? Because yeah buddy, that would be awesome.

 

[mbell1975]

So basically instead of software fragmentation you want hardware fragmentation? What need would this fulfill? So you can walk around with and claim that you have a screen size to match every odd number before 10? Because yeah buddy, that would be awesome.

Are you that dense? The Kindle Fire has been selling many millions of units and the Galaxy Note sold 5 million units in 5 months. There is obviously a market for a device larger than a phone but not a 10 inch tablet. This is where Apple is king. Other companies put devices out and it gets some interest and then they come in and dominate that market. They are reluctant to make the iPhone bigger, but thats what many people want. Thats why you have had TONS of rumors of larger iPhone and smaller iPads. I am sure Apple wants to get in on that 5-7 inch device range too. There will be no hardware fragmentation, it will simply be a new device as the iPad was.

 

[terraphantm]

Apple has become the most valuable company in the world by selling a 3.5 inch screen iPhone and 9.7 inch screen iPad.

Samsung has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 5.3 inch screen galaxy note.

Amazon has not become the most valuable company in the world because of the 7 inch screen Kindle Fire.

I say that Apple will continue doing what has worked for them so far...



Fixed that for you

Not everyone will want a bigger screen. Don't assume you know what the majority wants based on your own personal wants/desires.

Those Apple products are successful because they're Apple products. If Apple decided to release a 5" or 7" device, millions will buy them just because of the logo.

Personally.. I'm always a fan of choice. Just because a 5" or 7" device isn't suitable for everyone doesn't mean it isn't suitible for anyone. They offer multiple choices in the mac line because they realize that one size does not fit all. I could see the same case being made for iOS devices.