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We have just moved and sold our good TV with the place, so are going to be buying a new 4K TV. We currently use a Mac Mini as our media centre, and have a good Bose surround sound system. Problem is streaming Netflix (which we use a fair bit), doesn't provide 5.1 sound. My understanding is the Netflix app on ATV does have surround sound. I am looking forward to a new 4K TV, a 4K ATV and Netflix in 5.1ch.
 
Some studios were willing to give you new HD digital copy codes if you asked and provided proof of that you own the Blu-ray, but that's a far cry from what you claimed.

You literally just said that they did upgrade. And every copy I have is now HD... which were SD previously and I never asked for it. I just deleted them from my library and when I redownloaded they are HD. Some of my movies were even upgraded with menus now which they didn't have before.

I love how you ignored every counter point I made to you with FACTS with your "facts" that you have no proof on the matter. While I can pull hun

You two and your cherry picking things out of context to troll are ridiculous. You two both said that Apple would never give resolution upgrades are ridiculous and then back tracked.

Heres an article of a free resolution upgrade:
https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/7/2852583/apple-previously-purchased-itunes-movies-1080p
 
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I'm really looking forward to it. I don't currently have an Apple TV and the big feature I'm looking forward to is AirPlay so I can use my iPhone's mobile data to stream video to my TV as opposed to the lightning AV cable.

Even though I won't be able to utilize 4K streaming content for quite some time, I'm still looking forward to it. The game consoles and TV apps are good, but if you want to use Apple's stuff you still need an Apple device.
 
I was not interested in 4K until I got a new 4K capable TV. Although I mostly watch 1080i and 1080P I recently watched a few YouTube 4K videos and some are quite impressive. Videos were made by skilled amateurs with 4K drones or cameras. Used the YouTube app in the new smart TV.

I have not yet watched any commercial movies in 4K such as from Netflix, but it might be worthwhile. I don't yet have quite enough bandwidth for Netflix 4K streaming but my ISP is just starting to install fibre locally at up to 250 megabits, price not yet known.

I mostly use my Apple TV3 for 1080P Netflix/YouTube and my new TV's apps can do those in 4K so that eliminates part of the reason I would get a 4K Apple TV. I don't use the Airplay capability of my ATV3 very much anymore. However, a 4K ATV is potentially interesting.

My TV is a Sony and the Smart TV stuff (including interactions with Android phones/tablets) is done by "Android TV" which is essentially Google's version of Apple TV that is built in to the TV guts. It's unfortunate that my TV cannot interact in a similar way with iPhones and iPads too (it can only do that with an external Apple TV).
 
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I'm really looking forward to it. I don't currently have an Apple TV and the big feature I'm looking forward to is AirPlay so I can use my iPhone's mobile data to stream video to my TV as opposed to the lightning AV cable.

Even though I won't be able to utilize 4K streaming content for quite some time, I'm still looking forward to it. The game consoles and TV apps are good, but if you want to use Apple's stuff you still need an Apple device.

I don't know if that will work. You need to have your mobile connected to the same wifi network as your phone, so unless theres a setting I have missed I don't think you can use mobile data to steam over airplay.
It would be good if you could as I get the premier league data free with my mobile company and 4G is faster than my wifi fairly often.
 
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I don't know if that will work. You need to have your mobile connected to the same wifi network as your phone, so unless theres a setting I have missed I don't think you can use mobile data to steam over airplay.
It would be good if you could as I get the premier league data free with my mobile company and 4G is faster than my wifi fairly often.

You should be able to directly connect to the Apple TV starting with iOS8 without being on the same wifi network.
 
A 4K TV is only useful with a 4K bluray player. A 4K Apple TV is non-sensical purely by what a 4K stream would actually be: a compressed mess. If you look at 1080P over the air on a 1080P TV and compare it to a compressed 1080P cable stream then you'll freak out. Now imagine that same compressed 4K stream playing live. It'll be like watching video over a model again!
 
I still haven’t updated to a 4K tv. I was thinking of getting the new Apple TV so I could start purchasing WW movies in 4K... but I’ve heard the studios want to charge a 5-10$ premium over HD. 4K isn’t worth that to me. I actually think SD should be disconnected, HD should drop to SD pricing and 4K should be at HD prices.

I’m not sure why the studios think there is any value in a 5-10$ premium. It doesn’t cost them any more to produce 4K digital over HD...
 
A 4K TV is only useful with a 4K bluray player. A 4K Apple TV is non-sensical purely by what a 4K stream would actually be: a compressed mess. If you look at 1080P over the air on a 1080P TV and compare it to a compressed 1080P cable stream then you'll freak out. Now imagine that same compressed 4K stream playing live. It'll be like watching video over a model again!

Seems pretty good watching the grand tour in 4k on Samsung via the built in amazon app.
 
Some 4K devices and media support HDR (High Dynamic Range). Rumors suggest that the ATV5 will as well. Of course. your projector also needs to support HDR.

it's possible that this video will allow you imagine the difference.

Yeah I get that HDR exists, but until you have a display that supports it, it's another feature I have no use for and that -- to be honest, 99% of what I watch won't be encoded that way anyway. Right now, 4K and HDR our family niche products on the content end. I'm sure in five years this will all be more widespread and I'm sure I'll have a projector that does it all. Meanwhile, I'm quite good with my 100 inch home theater thanks.
 
I'm very interested. We use our AppleTV for 85% of our viewing, will be 95% when the Amazon app is released. We just bought a 4K HDR/Dolby Vision TV in July so I'm ready and excited about a 4K AppleTV.
We use our Apple TV for 100% of our viewing. In fact the only other thing connected to our TV is a Switch. We'll be upgrading day one.
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I mostly want it for Apple Music and for photos neither need 4k but that's beside the point.
Photos would benefit from 4K the most.
 
still using my ATV3. Works like charm. No urgently to upgrade anytime soon since I do not own a 4K TV.
 
A 4K TV is only useful with a 4K bluray player. A 4K Apple TV is non-sensical purely by what a 4K stream would actually be: a compressed mess. If you look at 1080P over the air on a 1080P TV and compare it to a compressed 1080P cable stream then you'll freak out. Now imagine that same compressed 4K stream playing live. It'll be like watching video over a model again!

Not sure what options are in the US. In the UK my ISP (BT) does 4k sport, from the camera to the TV (yes it is compressed). It is way above quality for a 1080i presentation, as you would expect but they have got it to the TV in good order. It is very good and very 4K. I believe they peg the rate at 22mb/s. Their TV product does not count to download usage though.

Netflix, 4k vs HD, there is a noticeable difference. I have three devices with the Netflix app and Marco Polo as an example (there are others), it would only show up as HD on one device so I could check, that and a few other titles. However, as you say, it is compressed but the end result is defiantly 4K and watchable.

But you are right in that a dedicated 4k player is the best, the pictures from a full fat 4k are stunning (arguments for source material aside and stick to 4k min). However if a stream of 4k will get a good result and all things considered, I would probably go for it (few caveats). Compression is not just about making it small, it is about fooling the eye and when that is pulled off well, it works, especially when the end resolution is still noticeable as 4k and a decent picture.

With this offering, quality wise or me, the acid test will be seeing it in action on a good panel at the shop. The final clincher, the pricing structure. Who knows, it might be awful. See what happens next week.

:)
 
Recently got a 4k Samsung TV, was thinking about getting a 4k AppleTV eventually, but seems I won't need to.

1080p from my AppleTV 3 is adequate for website streaming as the quality isn't magically going to become good on an AppleTV with 4k.

For everything else, I just stick it on a USB memory stick and plug it directly into my TV - can play basically anything this way. x265 720p files even look amazing on a 4k TV...
 
My wife and I love our ATV4's. Neither of our TV's are 4k, so until we replace them, we do not have a need for a 4k ATV.
 
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Apple TV 4 is a great investment. If you are currently using Cable or Satellite for your entertainment, I think everyone should at least look into streaming those services you currently have now for a lower cost. Apple does not make the content, but many others have provided it. A year ago I was on the Cable/Sat merry go round and now I am saving more than a hundred dollar per month and making use of all four of my Appletv's that replaced all this set top boxes I had before of which was cost as well. The Appletv is just a device for you to make use of anyway you want to.
 
I am hoping this pushes HBO, Showtime, etc. to start streaming in 4K. There is nothing the ATV offers that I cannot currently get with alternative streaming devices or even the apps built into my current TV. I use the Amazon app for HBO, Showtime, and Starz.
 
Yes I'm very interested I want a new Apple TV but refuse to buy a new one in 2017 without 4k on principle.
I mostly want it for Apple Music and for photos neither need 4k but that's beside the point.

Any new Smart TV will give you apps for all the 4K providers for free. So buy a new 1080p Apple TV today and stop depriving yourself of the rest of the benefits like iTunes, AirPlay, Playlists, etc. 4K is a sham unless you sit 3 feet away from a 75" screen. HDR is what's happening in HDTV now, and a 1080p Apple TV will look stellar on a HDR panel.
 
I just sold my third gen ATV ahead of the Sep 12th event. I find it so limiting. The mac mini hooked up to the tv gives me so many more options. I loved the interface and how smooth everything looked but there's only so much it can do.
 
Any new Smart TV will give you apps for all the 4K providers for free. So buy a new 1080p Apple TV today and stop depriving yourself of the rest of the benefits like iTunes, AirPlay, Playlists, etc. 4K is a sham unless you sit 3 feet away from a 75" screen. HDR is what's happening in HDTV now, and a 1080p Apple TV will look stellar on a HDR panel.

Buy an ATV 4 4 days before an Apple key note? I think not.
I have a 4k TV with built in 4k apps. The point which I made was I will not buy a ATV4 on principle as Apple should not be selling outdated tech like this.
 
Buy an ATV 4 4 days before an Apple key note? I think not.
I have a 4k TV with built in 4k apps. The point which I made was I will not buy a ATV4 on principle as Apple should not be selling outdated tech like this.

Apple has always been smart and avoided overhyped technology on several occasions. 4K is a waste of time unless someone is in a small bedroom with a gigantic TV. For most of us sitting 10 to 15 feet away from a 55 inch panel you can't see the quality of 4K, your eyes can't even differentiate 720 from 1080 at that average distance.

So your principal is what, Apple should support a technology that no one needs simply because CE makers are desperately trying to sell TV's that no one needs just like they did with 3D?
 
Any new Smart TV will give you apps for all the 4K providers for free. So buy a new 1080p Apple TV today and stop depriving yourself of the rest of the benefits like iTunes, AirPlay, Playlists, etc. 4K is a sham unless you sit 3 feet away from a 75" screen. HDR is what's happening in HDTV now, and a 1080p Apple TV will look stellar on a HDR panel.

The ATV4 doesn't support HDR...

Also, anyone who happens to be in the market for a TV is going to be getting a 4K model or a low-end budget piece of junk. 4K TVs are the standard now, regardless of how much or how little the benefit over 1080p. Technology and the market have moved on.
 
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