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TJ82

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Saving their coolest new launch to last this week it seems. Tomorrow will be interesting. Keen on performance benchmarks so hoping to see some actual testing.

Will settle for some pretty closeups though! I actually love how it looks, going to look ace on the desk.
 

azentropy

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It was strange that the Air was today instead of yesterday with the SE embargo being lifted Monday. I would have thought the Studio(s) would have been today.
 

TJ82

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Less time between hype reviews and the launch day the better. You really don’t want to kill off impulse buyers with any sort of wait. Every minute, hour, day loses some of that crowd. Studio numbers are the most important to Apple here as they want to convince investors it was a smart move.
 
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roland.g

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You're thinking of wooden stick sportsball, March Madness is peach basket sportsball...
Don’t mind him. He’s acting like he lives under a bridge and thinks himself cute. My comment was legitimate. His ignored that reality in order to make a snide not so witty remark.
 
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Chancha

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This time I am betting money on actual Australian Studio buyers to deliver the most useful info soonest - that is a teardown.

Those Youtube reviewers will probably be half spec-sheet-reading, another half lazy Geekbench bar charts. If they got their units from Apple, they are probably bound by clauses to never tear it down or even to do stress tests that expose throttling.
 

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This time I am betting money on actual Australian Studio buyers to deliver the most useful info soonest - that is a teardown.

Those Youtube reviewers will probably be half spec-sheet-reading, another half lazy Geekbench bar charts. If they got their units from Apple, they are probably bound by clauses to never tear it down or even to do stress tests that expose throttling.

I can't get too excited about issues like throttling, certainly in the case of the M1 Max. That chip has been out for months in the 16" MacBook Pro. With the Mac Studio, it's in an enclosure that's three times the volume of a Mac mini, and that has a cooling system designed to handle the M1 Ultra, which is an M1 Max x 2.
 
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Chancha

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I can't get too excited about issues like throttling, certainly in the case of the M1 Max. That chip has been out for months in the 16" MacBook Pro. With the Mac Studio, it's in an enclosure that's three times the volume of a Mac mini, and that has a cooling system designed to handle the M1 Ultra.
True, if the Max in this enclosure cannot be fully utilized than Apple has serious priority issues. So the throttling concerns are mostly on the Ultra. A teardown will also relief other concerns such as ease to clean the inside, state of SSD being socketed or soldered, power distribution to I/Os, or even traces of Thunderbolt controllers etc. People who are split between Max and Ultra, or even pondering if they should wait for the eventual Mac Pro would like to know a few things.
 
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Feek

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With the use mine is going to get, it'll barely get warm, never mind throttling :)

Still looking forward to the reviews and the teardown tomorrow from ifixit. I wonder if they'll have both versions because of the difference (weight) between the two has to be something to do with the cooling.
 
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bobcomer

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I can't get too excited about issues like throttling, certainly in the case of the M1 Max. That chip has been out for months in the 16" MacBook Pro. With the Mac Studio, it's in an enclosure that's three times the volume of a Mac mini, and that has a cooling system designed to handle the M1 Ultra, which is an M1 Max x 2.
The Max actually has a different cooling system than the ultra -- that's why the Studio Ultra weighs 2lbs more...
 

F-Train

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The Max actually has a different cooling system than the ultra -- that's why the Studio Ultra weighs 2lbs more...
It's unclear whether there is any substantive difference in the cooling system or whether the weight difference is just due to a difference in heat sink material (copper vs aluminium) and maybe a difference in power supply.

I'll say it again. The M1 Max chip has been in use for months and has been examined and discussed to death. It is not new, and I'm unaware of any reason to get excited about cooling of that chip.
 
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Chancha

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Why are people convinced that some nerd with a Youtube channel is going to expose some massive flaw in the construction of these that a $2T technology company wouldn't have sorted out before it hit the market lol.
Because the Touchbar era happened. Along with the Butterfly KB, the T1/T2 crapping out, and of course the thermals.
 
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