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Anyone else wondering where the reviews are?

I like the touchbar on my MBP, and I liked the butterfly keyboard on my 12” MB despite the occasional issue. Evidently I’m in the minority though. But still, I put more faith in the website reviews from people that have been reviewing Apple products for decades than I would on a YouTube review that needs to be controversial to get the viewslikesandsubscribes
 
illitrate23 said:
I like the touchbar on my MBP, and I liked the butterfly keyboard on my 12” MB despite the occasional issue. Evidently I’m in the minority though. But still, I put more faith in the website reviews from people that have been reviewing Apple products for decades than I would on a YouTube review that needs to be controversial to get the viewslikesandsubscribes
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Some Youtubers are great. Some terrible. Personally... I like Jon Rettinger, Rene Ritchie, Jerry Schulze, MHKB..
 
F-Train said:
It's unclear whether there is any substantive difference in the cooling system or whether the weight difference is just due to a difference in heat sink material (copper vs aluminium) and maybe a difference in power supply.

I'll say it again. The M1 Max chip has been in use for months and has been examined and discussed to death. It is not new, and I'm unaware of any reason to get excited about cooling of that chip.
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The power supply is the same. Copper has a much higher cooling capacity than aluminum and is much heavier as well and acciunts for thentwo pund diference.
 
F-Train said:
It's unclear whether there is any substantive difference in the cooling system or whether the weight difference is just due to a difference in heat sink material (copper vs aluminium) and maybe a difference in power supply.
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A difference in the heatsink material is a huge substantive change! You're talking aluminum for the Max, and copper for the Ultra and a lot better heat conductor. They wouldn't have changed the metal unless there's a reason. As for power supply, they quote the same watts from what I've seen.
F-Train said:
I'll say it again. The M1 Max chip has been in use for months and has been examined and discussed to death. It is not new, and I'm unaware of any reason to get excited about cooling of that chip.
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I'm not worried about it either, but your statement about the Max not throttling because it "that has a cooling system designed to handle the M1 Ultra, which is an M1 Max x 2." is just technically wrong. I don't expect much throttling at all, if any, and only under very heavy CPU and GPU usage.
 
randy85 said:
Why are people convinced that some nerd with a Youtube channel is going to expose some massive flaw in the construction of these that a $2T technology company wouldn't have sorted out before it hit the market lol.
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Because it has happened many times before.
 
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bobcomer said:
A difference in the heatsink material is a huge substantive change! You're talking aluminum for the Max, and copper for the Ultra and a lot better heat conductor. They wouldn't have changed the metal unless there's a reason. As for power supply, they quote the same watts from what I've seen.

I'm not worried about it either, but your statement about the Max not throttling because it "that has a cooling system designed to handle the M1 Ultra, which is an M1 Max x 2." is just technically wrong. I don't expect much throttling at all, if any, and only under very heavy CPU and GPU usage.
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Find someone else to have a pointless debate with. Really, in the middle of an international crisis, I can think of better ways to spend my time than engaging with you in hairsplitting. After what I read in he news this morning, this kind of thing is just embarrassing.
 
The Verge has a good review. Downers include the camera on the Studio Display (which Apple said they're going to fix in a software update) and the GPU performance.
 
dugbug said:
Best review to date. Lots of benchmarks, lots of good discussion.

BLUF:
Very quiet
Very powerful


gfxbench 3090 vs ultra (base? not sure if his is the 64 core) is just under the 3090. Quite happy with that.

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My fav so far too. Done a bunch of these now, getting fatigued, but if I had to recommend just one, it’d be this one.
 
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F-Train said:
Find someone else to have a pointless debate with. Really, in the middle of an international crisis, I can think of better ways to spend my time than engaging with you in hairsplitting. After what I read in he news this morning, this kind of thing is just embarrassing.
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I don't consider pointing out facts verses inaccuracies as hairsplitting, but whatever.
 
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Unsurprisingly, Dave Lee is the most useful to this point. I'm beginning to wonder whether Marques Brownlee intends to upload today. Peter McKinnon has a sort of intro video up, review to follow.
 
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