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baris3

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hello, i'm about to receive a mid 2014 15" rMBP (i can still refund it because i did not open the box) and i'd like to know how many users are experiencing the old image retention and uneven color tint issues on their 15" displays with 2014-2015 rMBP's. back in 2012, i bought the first rMBP (the one's with 650m) and refunded it because of the terrible image retention. my brother has an 13 inch rMBP and display is flawless, but i fear that my screen will be defective or will be gone defective in time and i rather refund it before i open the box. there is tons of people who still having display issues :

https://discussions.apple.com/message/28652909?tstart=0#28652909

i will probably return it without opening the box because reseller probably won't see it as a defect, and i don't have time for dealing with display. it should not cost me trouble, if it's going to trouble me, i will go with an 17inch asus notebook for my needs. btw in my country mac devices are expensive, i paid like 6k for it.

so please share your experience here with so-called flawless 15" retina displays.
 

Bending Pixels

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The only way you'll know if it's defective is to open the box. Personally, I think you're worrying about something that isn't wide-spread. You're assuming something is wrong before there's any evidence. Also...keep in mind that Apple warranties it for a year. You can also get AppleCare for another two years after that.
 

baris3

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The only way you'll know if it's defective is to open the box. Personally, I think you're worrying about something that isn't wide-spread. You're assuming something is wrong before there's any evidence. Also...keep in mind that Apple warranties it for a year. You can also get AppleCare for another two years after that.

as i mentioned above, i don't have time for it. i need a device which won't cost me any trouble with it's screen. and especially apple devices are very expensive in my country. if i am going to pay like 6k for it, why do i need to bother with it's superior "retina" display ? rather go with an fhd 17 inch asus notebook. i lost so much time on 2012 rmbp, because of it's display.

the thing is, if i open the box and the display is defective, they won't take it back. (i will open it in front of apple reseller) and i will be forced to go a genius bar, which is a problem because there is only one apple store in my country. although the apple store is close to where i live, they are always busy. meaning it will take time, and i really don't have time for waiting for it's display to be changed, since i need a running machine in my hand. and i read stories of people who change displays for 4rd time and still can't get a normal one.
 

MagicBoy

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Back on topic... You do realise how many laptops Apple sell? There's always going to be a small proportion of less than perfect/DOA machines, and those are the customers that are going to complain. Some vociferously. The users of the 99.9% of computers with no issues are not going to be posting "Yay! I love my rMBP screen" on a discussion forum. My original point was that any early production issues will have been sorted within a few months and it's three whole years later.

My June 2014 made rMBP has a perfect screen. No signs of IR whatsoever.
 
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T5BRICK

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rather go with an fhd 17 inch asus notebook.

It sounds like the issue of potentially having a bad screen outweighs the benefits of an Apple laptop. By all means, get the Asus. Who knows what potential problems it may have. :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, I haven't had any issues with Apple screens. No I haven't done the checkerboard test. I actually USE my computer, I don't run a bunch of tests and look for problems.
 
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It sounds like the issue of potentially having a bad screen outweighs the benefits of an Apple laptop. By all means, get the Asus. Who knows what potential problems it may have. :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, I haven't had any issues with Apple screens. No I haven't done the checkerboard test. I actually USE my computer, I don't run a bunch of tests and look for problems.
I was going to post the same thing. It's not a problem if it requires a test to show something and that is only visible during that test.

I've had mine since May with no problems.
 

baris3

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It sounds like the issue of potentially having a bad screen outweighs the benefits of an Apple laptop. By all means, get the Asus. Who knows what potential problems it may have. :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, I haven't had any issues with Apple screens. No I haven't done the checkerboard test. I actually USE my computer, I don't run a bunch of tests and look for problems.

13 displays does not suffer from these defects, as we can see there is no reports from 13 users. Most likely your display is flawless.

You are so funny when you claim that "i am trying to find problems with bunch of tests".. Your statement makes no sense. I don't bought any rMBP for just testing. I first encountered/realized them when i am using it for photography, so i fear it will happen again because people are still complaining about it. I do photography, video and my eyes are trained so i can see if there is a slight tint on a display. However my problem was not tint, after browsing with safari about half an hour, safari layout was on top of the adobe ps layout for a while. That is called image retention and it is a serious issue.

I was going to post the same thing. It's not a problem if it requires a test to show something and that is only visible during that test.

I've had mine since May with no problems.

Did you do the checkerboard test ?
 

T5BRICK

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13 displays does not suffer from these defects, as we can see there is no reports from 13 users. Most likely your display is flawless.

You are so funny when you claim that "i am trying to find problems with bunch of tests".. I encountered them when i am using it for photography, so i fear it will happen again because people are still complaining about it. I do photography, video and my eyes are trained so i can see if there is a slight tint on a display. However my problem was not tint, after browsing with safari about half an hour, safari layout was on top of the adobe ps layout for a while. That is called image retention and it is a serious issue.

Then return it and buy the Asus. The folks with image retention problems are in the minority, even in the case of the 15" models.
 

baris3

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Why would I?

Because i am trying to collect information here, from 2014 mid 15" rMBP users. It is a bit odd since you replied a thread post which wants to collect information on 2014-2015 rMBP users and then you say "Why would I run the test?".
 

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Because i am trying to collect information here, from 2014 mid 15" rMBP users. It is a bit odd since you replied a thread post which wants to collect information on 2014-2015 rMBP users and then you say "Why would I run the test?".
Why would I look for peoblems that don't exist in my everyday use?

You asked for info so I gave mine. I have ZERO problems in using my 15" 2015 retina MBP in every day use. Good enough?
 

CoastalOR

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thank you, did you do checkerboard test ?

http://www.marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html

I am not going to do the test unless I think there is a problem. Linking to a site that pops up with text that says; "By using this, you agree that I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE for any damage you may incur." and "I don't believe that this can cause permanent damage to your screen, but I cannot be sure." seems sketchy to me. I am also not going to read 641 pages of the thread you linked to in the first post.

IMO you have made up your mind to not keep the rMBP. That is fine. Move on. Quit being disrespectful to people giving their experiences, which you asked for. I am done and will not participate further with this thread. It is a waste of time.

as i mentioned above, i don't have time for it.
 
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baris3

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It made sense before, I was just adding context. If you're trying to be funny it's failing. Oh and a Pro-tip - fill in the location field if you don't want people assuming you are American. ;)

I'll refer you back to your OP :


How many users tells you what? Nothing. It's a number that has no context without knowing the total number of units sold.

You can assume whatever you want with your thin mind. Your statements still makes no sense whatsoever. i usually ignore people like you, it was my fault to reply your comment.
 

MagicBoy

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LOL.

So, to conclude. You came here for validation, didn't universally get it so you're throwing the toys out of the pram.

Good show.

IMO you have made up your mind to not keep the rMBP. That is fine. Move on. Quit being disrespectful to people giving their experiences, which you asked for. I am done and will not participate further with this thread. It is a waste of time.

Failed to put it better myself, so I'll say I approve of this post.
 
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baris3

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I am not going to do the test unless I think there is a problem. Linking to a site that pops up with text that says; "By using this, you agree that I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE for any damage you may incur." and "I don't believe that this can cause permanent damage to your screen, but I cannot be sure." seems sketchy to me. I am also not going to read 641 pages of the thread you linked to in the first post.

IMO you have made up your mind to not keep the rMBP. That is fine. Move on. Quit being disrespectful to people giving their experiences, which you asked for. I am done and will not participate further with this thread. It is a waste of time.

LOL, i did not force you to do so. I am not being disrespectful, you are being funny now.
 

baris3

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LOL.

So, to conclude. You came here for validation, didn't universally get it so you're throwing the toys out of the pram.

Good show.



Failed to put it better myself, so I'll say I approve of this post.

Still making stataments with your thin mind. I got what i want, as you stated you had no image retention. I do not care about people going mad when i say there could be some defect with their display because there is some people with defective displays and that's why i am asking for it.
 

MagicBoy

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Still making stataments with your thin mind. I got what i want, as you stated you had no image retention. I do not care about people going mad when i say there could be some defect with their display because there is some people with defective displays and that's why i am asking for it.

1. I'm not going mad.
2. There is no defect with my display.
3. Of course there is the occasional defective display. No manufacturing process is 100% perfect, however they improve with time. Transposing a bad experience with a new cutting edge product into a fear that a unit manufactured three years later will therefore also be defective is irrational. In the extreme.
 

baris3

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1. I'm not going mad.
2. There is no defect with my display.
3. Of course there is the occasional defective display. No manufacturing process is 100% perfect, however they improve with time. Transposing a bad experience with a new cutting edge product into a fear that a unit manufactured three years later will therefore also be defective is irrational. In the extreme.

Yeah, you are right. You was calm. But some people think their time is precious, though they simply waste their time by coming here telling me they don't want to test their display or read some support discussion related to thread. Like i forced them to do that. LOL.

There is no defect with yours which is good for you. You really think i don't understand your point after all ? I hoped for it to get better after three years too, but people was still posting issues in 2014 on that support forum. What is rational is irrelavant here because as you said no manufacturing process is perfect, and we can't ignore the minority on support forum ordering new displays from china or getting 4rd display replacement with same issues. Personally I don't want to play lottery with a 2500$ macbook. What relevant is a product costs 2500$ and some people complain about display which claimed to be a good screen.
 

Taz Mangus

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the thing is, if i open the box and the display is defective, they won't take it back. (i will open it in front of apple reseller) and i will be forced to go a genius bar, which is a problem because there is only one apple store in my country. although the apple store is close to where i live, they are always busy. meaning it will take time, and i really don't have time for waiting for it's display to be changed, since i need a running machine in my hand. and i read stories of people who change displays for 4rd time and still can't get a normal one.

When you buy a Apple computer you have a 14 day return policy. This means you can return the computer for any reason if you are not satisfied. Open it, see if the display has any rent entire issues and return it for a full refund. I don't see the downside to this situation. I bought (2) 2015 13" retina MacBook Pro computers and I have not seen any retention issues yet. I have had one for about 4 weeks and the other is 3 weeks old. If I had seen an issue I would have returned it.
 
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