Anyone find this offensive ? I do.

[Macbookprodude]

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It basically means that we are obsolete and dumb according to the Intel Macs.. I think moving to ARM will be a great thing and this will be PowerPC reborn via a cousin named ARM.

 

[MrVitalic]

I already cuddle my G5 to fall asleep ahahah joke. Dont take that seriously. Be happy and enjoy both world, ppc and x86!

 

[Macbookprodude]

Right now I am not enjoying the world. i HAVE 3 machines I can do nothing with.. If anyone wants them i will be willing to give them away. They are useless to me.

 

[Amethyst1]

Right now I am not enjoying the world. i HAVE 3 machines I can do nothing with.. If anyone wants them i will be willing to give them away. They are useless to me.

In that case, I'll gladly take the useless DLSD. 😉

 

[MrVitalic]

Right now I am not enjoying the world. i HAVE 3 machines I can do nothing with.. If anyone wants them i will be willing to give them away. They are useless to me.

Mines got a purpose (digital music workstation). Pick one and do something with it. Of course they are not stellar at internet browsing... I found a ‘broken’ macpro 1.1 at the recycling center burried under trash that I bought for 20$us that is now my server. If you search you’l find something cheap to have a lot of fun with.

I dont want to be too personal, but I saw you struggle with depression. I was in that hell hole for 6 years a long time ago. I understand at one point, you loose faith, friends, hope, you give up your hobby and everything get destroyed.

Time work wonder but you have to stay alive to withness it 🙂 Try to enjoy the little things. Seeking help and get medication is not a magical trick. Its you that have to climb out of the hole. I made it without help. I’m sure you can.

 

[Macbookprodude]

In that case, I'll gladly take the useless DLSD. 😉

Our only hope is to beg AMIGA for them to allow us to be supported.. Linux is not the answer either because what does Linux provide to us ? I tried to put Ubuntu on my G5 Quad and I keep getting black screens !!! Honestly, I want to keep my PPC macs, but what use are they now that 1. mac tubes is gone 2. youview is gone 3. The idiot who made Leopard Webkit is gone.. he threw in the towel.. but I must say his browser additions allowed me to not so long ago 3-5 months to be exact and from 2016 - watch up to 1440p video in youtube on the Quad. Now, the Quad is brought to its knees by tenfourfox - I am not so sure an ssd will make it go faster. I don't know.. I am really at the edge of the cliff here.. At one time, I was a strong supporter of PowerPC and always thought differently during my time with apple products - i don't consider intel macs real macs either because they are "giving" into the enemy.

As I said, i THINK THE way forward is AMIGAOS.

 

[alex_free]

Our only hope is to beg AMIGA for them to allow us to be supported.. Linux is not the answer either because what does Linux provide to us ? I tried to put Ubuntu on my G5 Quad and I keep getting black screens !!! Honestly, I want to keep my PPC macs, but what use are they now that 1. mac tubes is gone 2. youview is gone 3. The idiot who made Leopard Webkit is gone.. he threw in the towel.. but I must say his browser additions allowed me to not so long ago 3-5 months to be exact and from 2016 - watch up to 1440p video in youtube on the Quad. Now, the Quad is brought to its knees by tenfourfox - I am not so sure an ssd will make it go faster. I don't know.. I am really at the edge of the cliff here.. At one time, I was a strong supporter of PowerPC and always thought differently during my time with apple products - i don't consider intel macs real macs either because they are "giving" into the enemy.

As I said, i THINK THE way forward is AMIGAOS.

Nah it’s OpenBSD.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Mines got a purpose (digital music workstation). Pick one and do something with it. Of course they are not stellar at internet browsing... I found a ‘broken’ macpro 1.1 at the recycling center burried under trash that I bought for 20$us that is now my server. If you search you’l find something cheap to have a lot of fun with.

I dont want to be too personal, but I saw you struggle with depression. I was in that hell hole for 6 years a long time ago. I understand at one point, you loose faith, friends, hope, you give up your hobby and everything get destroyed.

Time work wonder but you have to stay alive to withness it 🙂 Try to enjoy the little things. Seeking help and get medication is not a magical trick. Its you that have to climb out of the hole. I made it without help. I’m sure you can.

Yes, I suffer from severe depression and just the other few nights ago during the PISMO bout I tried to harm myself because I wanted to be dead and with the past as I had better times then. But, actually coming to my senses a little bit I tried to fire up my G5 only to be more and more depressed. Tell me how a Quad 2.5 can be brought to its knees ? Why is tenfourfox so slow even on a G5 ? While I defend Kaiser for helping the community and we all should donate for his great work, he still has YET to make Tenfourfox speedier on our hardware. Will SSD's help ? I doubt it. But, just 3-5 months ago when i checked my pB G4 and Quad everything was just fine. I miss mactubes, you view -what ever happened to development on those ?

 

[MrVitalic]

Heres some weapon to help you in you quest for power:

Internet: Webkit + one window browser

Youtube: TenFiveTube

Good luck

 

[Macbookprodude]

Nah it’s OpenBSD.

Alex, they have something we could benefit from. What good is Linux going to do for us ? Tried to install Linux Ubuntu on my g5 and I get a black screen - Nvidia 256MB 6600 isn't supported ? I tried on my G4 - maybe there is a chance with Ubuntu there.. Idk if they are even allowing a separate group of developers to develop on it. Eventually, we all will need to move from leopard as Leopard is getting older. But, its not just PPC.. even my Mac pro under Snow Leopard has been deprecated where i CAN'T use safari - I ask, WHY ?? Why are they doing this to us ? What is so bad about an old browser ? Security ? Who needs it when you are behind a firewall ?

SOrry, Its 6:54am in the morning and I am letting out my thoughts. coULDN'T sleep.
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Heres some weapon to help you in you quest for power:

Internet: Webkit + one window browser

Youtube: TenFiveTube

Good luck

Webkit has been deprecated.. When I type: www.youtube.com - youtube loads alright, but i get blank boxes - only to try changing the user agent to IPOD or iPad 6.1 ??? and then the thing tells me not supported. How am i supposed to feel since 3-5 months ago everything was working perfectly.. until GOOGLE had to mess it up. IN 2016, Everything worked, 2017 everything worked, 2018 still worked.

 

[MrVitalic]

@Macbookprodude I use webkit to browse forum and tenfivetube to watch youtube. Tenfivetube work very well. My quad is a 15 years old mac. I dont think someone owning a vintage ferrari would think he could beat a modern exotic car.
edit: I posted the wrong link, oops.

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[Macbookprodude]

Heres some weapon to help you in you quest for power:

Internet: Webkit + one window browser

Youtube: TenFiveTube

Good luck

I want friends and need friends more than ever now since I live alone, my ex doesn't want to be with me anymore.. Covid-19 has made life miserable for me onto of all this. I was literally crying when my Quad would't work right and the PB G4 1.67 - Yes, I am extremely depressed and haven't gotten any real sleep at all because I am hurt by all of this. I got these top of the line machines only to find out 10-11 years later they could not do what I wanted them to do. Sometimes I often look at web archive and see apple's old websites and it brings tears to my eyes because thats what i remember. Thats how I remember the internet, not like it is today. I wish a time machine existed.. Time travel has already been proven for going forward in the future, but still they are working on going back into the past. If someone created some type of time machine, I would gladly go back to 1999-2000 and remain there forever because I was happy then. i had my mother... She's been gone since September 2001 and I am so lonely here.. even my cat, Vitaliy doesn't make me happy anymore. As I am typing this tears are coming out of my eyes. I don't mean to sound personal, but I am letting this all out

because i feel I need to. I am just very hurt and very upset that none of my favorite machines are working anymore like they should. I am typing this on my Mac Pro - I was never a lover of intel macs before until i had no choice.

I hope I am not taking everyone's time up. I just wanted to relay how I feel right now, I will try to go to sleep maybe that will help. Thats another thing, i have been sleeping the days away because i AM SO lonely.. we are in lockdown here in MD. I was furloughed from my job on April 6th - though we were told we will be going back soon.

 

[MrVitalic]

Younger I bought a radeon 9800 pro 256mg at release, full price. The 128mg version was a bit cheaper but I wanted to own the very best. I was the king of the hill for about 8 months. When directX 10 was release I was sol and a bit sad to see my beloved 9800 being unsupported by dx10. I feel your pain, but bro, this is how it goes with computer.
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I want friends and need friends more than ever now since I live alone, my ex doesn't want to be with me anymore.. Covid-19 has made life miserable for me onto of all this. I was literally crying when my Quad would't work right and the PB G4 1.67 - Yes, I am extremely depressed and haven't gotten any real sleep at all because I am hurt by all of this. I got these top of the line machines only to find out 10-11 years later they could not do what I wanted them to do. Sometimes I often look at web archive and see apple's old websites and it brings tears to my eyes because thats what i remember. Thats how I remember the internet, not like it is today. I wish a time machine existed.. Time travel has already been proven for going forward in the future, but still they are working on going back into the past. If someone created some type of time machine, I would gladly go back to 1999-2000 and remain there forever because I was happy then. i had my mother... She's been gone since September 2001 and I am so lonely here.. even my cat, Vitaliy doesn't make me happy anymore. As I am typing this tears are coming out of my eyes. I don't mean to sound personal, but I am letting this all out

because i feel I need to. I am just very hurt and very upset that none of my favorite machines are working anymore like they should. I am typing this on my Mac Pro - I was never a lover of intel macs before until i had no choice.

I hope I am not taking everyone's time up. I just wanted to relay how I feel right now, I will try to go to sleep maybe that will help. Thats another thing, i have been sleeping the days away because i AM SO lonely.. we are in lockdown here in MD. I was furloughed from my job on April 6th - though we were told we will be going back soon.

We can talk a bit in pm after you get some rest. I’m french so my english skill are not perfect. Youv been warned 😛

 

[Amethyst1]

I got these top of the line machines only to find out 10-11 years later they could not do what I wanted them to do.

As @MrVitalic said, that's the way it goes with computers. And ten to eleven years is an extremely long time when it comes to computer hardware.

 

[Macbookprodude]

@Macbookprodude I use webkit to browse forum and tenfivetube to watch youtube. Tenfivetube work very well. My quad is a 15 years old mac. I dont think someone owning a vintage ferrari would think he could beat a modern exotic car.
edit: I posted the wrong link, oops.

TenFiveTube - Yet another YouTube option (updated 12/20/20)

We now have a few more options for Leopard, and Snow Leopard for YouTube. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT: Leopard users will need QuickTime 7.7 for optimal performance. Download...

forums.macrumors.com

I will try this on my pB G4 1.67 - maybe I might get some happiness 🙂

 

[Amethyst1]

I don't mean to sound personal, but I am letting this all out
because i feel I need to.

If it makes you feel better, do it. 🙂 I've been through this as well and am struggling with the current lockdown etc. and know how important it is to have something to enjoy and look forward to.

 

[TheShortTimer]

As @MrVitalic said, that's the way it goes with computers. And ten to eleven years is an extremely long time when it comes to computer hardware.

How true. In the early 80s, I read a feature on home computers and the writer urged the reader to brace themselves for the inevitability that immediately after making a purchase, an even more powerful machine will be released - and often by the manufacturer of your computer. 😀

 

[z970]

TenFourFox is slow because the VPU isn't doing any work, it's very bloated, and there are no universal optimizations bundled OOB. Pile all of that on top of the CPU alone, and it's a technological wonder it still performs as well as it does. This highlights the need for Linux / BSD development so that our machines can actually get such a thing as equal opportunity.

In the meantime, foxPEP (and the aforementioned TenFiveTube) will solve all of your problems. Give it a try. 😎

 

[MrVitalic]

How true. In the early 80s, I read a feature on home computers and the writer urged the reader to brace themselves for the inevitability that immediately after making a purchase, an even more powerful machine will be released - and often by the manufacturer of your computer. 😀

Back in the day, my 486dx2 was not powerfull enough to play diablo 1. I then looked at the sky and screamed in anger: ‘how dare you!’ .

 

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It basically means that we are obsolete and dumb according to the Intel Macs.. I think moving to ARM will be a great thing and this will be PowerPC reborn via a cousin named ARM.

OK, I'll bite. Why should I find those plushies offensive? What am I missing here?

 

[russell_314]

I love old computers computers but old Macs seem to be expensive unless they're in terrible shape. I have to stay off eBay for that reason 😂. I have an old IBM 5155 that needs a few capacitors replaced so if I ever get a soldering iron and some time I hope to get it working.

 

[Macbookprodude]

OK, I'll bite. Why should I find those plushies offensive? What am I missing here?

It’s an insult to us PowerPC users according to the context they were introduced.. funny, I don’t see any intel Mac plushies ? Because to them we are a joke still using old outdated computers. That’s how I see it as offensive.
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TenFourFox is slow because the VPU isn't doing any work, it's very bloated, and there are no universal optimizations bundled OOB. Pile all of that on top of the CPU alone, and it's a technological wonder it still performs as well as it does. This highlights the need for Linux / BSD development so that our machines can actually get such a thing as equal opportunity.

In the meantime, foxPEP (and the aforementioned TenFiveTube) will solve all of your problems. Give it a try. 😎

Would the Amigans help us to allow PPC Macs to transition to their OS ? I see this as the way forward - Linux ? It depends - all the tine I tried to install it on my G5 Quad I kept getting black screens and nothing showed up which proved at the time Ubuntu will never ever work on the G5. Now, for some reason the G4 DLSD works well with Ubuntu. Yellow dog Linux is old and not being developed, so AmigaOS is the way forward. MorphOS doesn’t even run on a G5 Quad, though I did try it out on the DLSD - partially works.

 

[z970]

Would the Amigans help us to allow PPC Macs to transition to their OS ? I see this as the way forward - Linux ? It depends - all the tine I tried to install it on my G5 Quad I kept getting black screens and nothing showed up which proved at the time Ubuntu will never ever work on the G5. Now, for some reason the G4 DLSD works well with Ubuntu. Yellow dog Linux is old and not being developed, so AmigaOS is the way forward. MorphOS doesn’t even run on a G5 Quad, though I did try it out on the DLSD - partially works.

I've used many Linux distros on the same family of G5 as yours many times and never had any problems. What VPU are you running?

 

[bobesch]

It’s an insult to us PowerPC users according to the context they were introduced.. funny, I don’t see any intel Mac plushies ? Because to them we are a joke still using old outdated computers. That’s how I see it as offensive.

Nope, that's an homage to the iconic old Apple hardware.
The bottle isn't 1% empty but 99% full ...!

 

[2984839]

You could also look at it as a compliment. PowerPC devices are iconic, which is why you see them even today in products like this, or in stock photos everywhere. Nobody will be buying space gray 2015 Macbook plushies in 2040.