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Anyone have a very uniform 16" display?

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kbhooper

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I've been deep diving various forums to try and find a pic of a uniform 16" display on a white background. I bought 2 right away and they were both equally bad, if not terrible. I've found various other posts about the 15" from a year or two ago reporting this issue. So it seems the chances of getting a bad, uneven panel are really high.

I'm about to drop hope on these larger laptops as I've owned three 13" over the years and never had this issue. But if someone out there has a good panel that might give me hope that I'll find one eventually.

I don't understand how someone can use a screen like this...it's basically entirely different colors between the left, middle, and right. My $200 24" Dell IPS has damn near perfect uniformity. It's not right.

EDIT - Went to Best Buy and looked at all the laptops there...MBPs, Surface devices, HP, Dell, etc. They all looked bad, many much worse than I consider my MBP. We need new tech...
 

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kbhooper said:
I've been deep diving various forums to try and find a pic of a uniform 16" display on a white background. I bought 2 right away and they were both equally bad, if not terrible. I've found various other posts about the 15" from a year or two ago reporting this issue. So it seems the chances of getting a bad, uneven panel are really high.

I'm about to drop hope on these larger laptops as I've owned three 13" over the years and never had this issue. But if someone out there has a good panel that might give me hope that I'll find one eventually.

I don't understand how someone can use a screen like this...it's basically entirely different colors between the left, middle, and right. My $200 24" Dell IPS has damn near perfect uniformity. It's not right.
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I'm going to have a better look at mine today and I will report back.

I'm very OCD about this stuff and I know for a fact that I've caught myself realizing/seeing the variance of colors on the screen too. I usually write these thoughts off as they make me analyze the laptop excessively to find further issues.
 
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Hard to say from the pic. As expected, the part directly in front of the camera (middle) looks brighter. If you move 6 inches left or right, are those sides then brighter like the middle is in the picture?

It honestly doesn't look that bad to me, assuming the above.
 
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I’m pretty sensitive to this kind of thing as well... returned 3 or 4 first gen 12.9” iPadPros for the same issue. I received my 16” this morning, and while the screen is just noticeably warmer than my 2019 15”, the uniformity is great... no issues.
 
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Also pretty sensitive to screen imperfections, but mine is perfect and I have no issues with it.
 
Hieveryone

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My screen is horrible

It looks like that old, musty, yellow page of a book that's been sitting the library for 35 years

But I'm not keeping my 16" so ?‍♂️
 
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kbhooper

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Nacho98 said:
Hard to say from the pic. As expected, the part directly in front of the camera (middle) looks brighter. If you move 6 inches left or right, are those sides then brighter like the middle is in the picture?

It honestly doesn't look that bad to me, assuming the above.
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Yeah if I move left or right it gets brighter on the sides. If I move way back it looks better overall.
 
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Rafterman said:
No wonders these devices are so expensive, with people returning them multiple times for trivial non-issues.
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Dude, some people stare at their screen all day.

It needs to be as close to perfect as possible.

On my 15" my E key is brighter than the rest by a lot. To me, that's trivial.

But my keyboard, trackpad, screen, ports - they need to work and be good
 
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Hieveryone said:
Dude, some people stare at their screen all day.

It needs to be as close to perfect as possible.

On my 15" my E key is brighter than the rest by a lot. To me, that's trivial.

But my keyboard, trackpad, screen, ports - they need to work and be good
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I've owned about a dozen Macbooks of varying kinds, the same number of iPhones, about 8 or 9 iPads, and even numerous iPods. Not once did I have to return of because of the screen. I doubt I'm that lucky.
 
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Hieveryone said:
Different boats for different folks

I'm not going to put up with a yellow screen. Sorry.
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Companies figure expected return rates into pricing. When people exchange devices multiple times, the rest of us end up paying for it in the pricing of future generations of devices.
 
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Hieveryone said:
When Apple delivers screens that are yellow they can expect return rates to match it I would think
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They aren't yellow, they have a warmer color gamut that can usually be corrected with software. ALL screens vary that way, the manufacturing process would triple the price of screens if they achieved the kind of uniformity you want.
 
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Rafterman said:
They aren't yellow, they have a warmer color gamut that can usually be corrected with software. ALL screens vary that way, the manufacturing process would triple the price of screens if they achieved the kind of uniformity you want.
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If it was evenly yellow it would be better and more correctable. When the middle is yellowish and the left and right is much cooler it's a problem. I would rather pay $500 extra for a uniform panel than play the exchange lottery. There's a reason premium panel manufacturers like Eizo provide uniformity-correction features - because to some people it's important.
 
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Yellow screens really aren't detrimental with MBPs since, unlike iOS devices, we can actually calibrate the freaking white point.

Uneven screens are a different matter.
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kbhooper said:
Yeah if I move left or right it gets brighter on the sides. If I move way back it looks better overall.
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Good, that tells me your screen is nice and even.
 
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Try to get a calibration tool and then measure for the uniformity with X-rite software. Or otherwise, there is no way to prove it.
 
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kbhooper

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Nacho98 said:
Yellow screens really aren't detrimental with MBPs since, unlike iOS devices, we can actually calibrate the freaking white point.

Uneven screens are a different matter.
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Good, that tells me your screen is nice and even.
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I should just cook this comment into my mind and just try to get used to it.
 
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