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An inside source from Apple told me the new phone will be LTW, however, since this is the first thing this person has ever told me I have no clue how much stock to put into it.
 
I don't think it's impossible that the new iPhone will have LTE connectivity, I just think it's unlikely. I don't see why Apple couldn't use a small amount of their large cash pile to possibly get the 2nd generation chipsets early. Yes, they aren't slated for mass production until Q1 2012, but I wouldn't put it past Apple to spend just enough money to get Qualcomm to make them a few ;)
 
Only if Apple gets early access to one of the low-power LTE chips currently under development, like they have occasionally had early access to certain Intel chips. But for the number of devices that would need to have this chip, I'm inclined to say no.

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An inside source from Apple told me the new phone will be LTW, however, since this is the first thing this person has ever told me I have no clue how much stock to put into it.
I'm assuming you mean LTE. But likely anyone high enough in Apple to know if this is true would also be high enough up to know better than to share that information.
 
if apple does thatd be amazing, they usually do for intel chips so imo its not beyond reason
 
AT&T already said don't expect an LTE phone until the end of the year. iPhone 5 will not have LTE. Maybe a surprise for Verizon. I doubt it.
 
Keep in mind this is not the iPhone 2G era when all apple had to do was cater to the needs of the American consumers. Noe that the iPhone is a world phone, i.e., officially sold in a lot of countries, Apple has to foresee needs of the global consumer as a whole.

4G coverage is present in the States and let's not even talk about how bad the coverage is; but what about other countries that haven't even started implementing 4G yet? 4G for them is completely useless.

I doubt Apple would want to add a feature that isn't even fully supported yet in the world let alone America. The addition of 4G would just increase the cost of production and eventually put the burden on the consumer.

Would you want to pay extra for an iPhone with LTE that can't even be exploited to it's full potential ? I know I wouldn't.
 
Keep in mind this is not the iPhone 2G era when all apple had to do was cater to the needs of the American consumers. Noe that the iPhone is a world phone, i.e., officially sold in a lot of countries, Apple has to foresee needs of the global consumer as a whole.

4G coverage is present in the States and let's not even talk about how bad the coverage is; but what about other countries that haven't even started implementing 4G yet? 4G for them is completely useless.

I doubt Apple would want to add a feature that isn't even fully supported yet in the world let alone America. The addition of 4G would just increase the cost of production and eventually put the burden on the consumer.

Would you want to pay extra for an iPhone with LTE that can't even be exploited to it's full potential ? I know I wouldn't.

When the iPhone 2G was being sold outside of the United States some countries did not even support Edge so the 2G had to run on GPRS.
 
When the iPhone 2G was being sold outside of the United States some countries did not even support Edge so the 2G had to run on GPRS.

...and you point is?

This does not fall into apples equation of meeting demands of the American consumer. Apple built the iPhone 2G for USA. What consumers did with the iPhone 2G outside USA was none of their concern because that was never their intended market. Now however it's a different ball game. With Apple signing contracts with hundreds of carriers around the world, they need to cater to a larger group of consumers and not just that of USA.
 
I see it happening if they charge 300 for a LTE 16 gb version. I'm not saying they would get rid of the $200 iPhone 5 but they would have both that way AT&T wouldn't have such stress on their LTE whenever they decide to turn it on for the rest of the country
 
If 3g speeds are decent, there will be virtually no difference between 3g/4g webpage loading as it's limited by the phone's slow processor. Even if you have a ferrari, it will go the same speed as a toyota on a congested highway. I can't speak for most people but a lot of people I know use 3g mainly for browsing with their limited data plans. For uploading, 4g will be faster but you can simply just use a wifi network.

I also can get over 3 days of usage on my iPhone 4 so while 20 hours isn't bad since you can charge it overnight, longer battery life is always nice.

have you used a 4G device? I can assure you it is much faster with ~same processor specs.

On a completely separate note:

I was tethering off of my LTE device and it ended up being faster than my FIOS account at home. Just blistering fast. I couldn't believe it.

Best solution that will never happen to address battery issues: put in LTE and make the battery swappable!
 
I'm really hoping the new iPhone will have 4G/LTE....but the consensus is it won't. Verizon has pretty decent 4G coverage...although it seems that they are working on the 4G spectrum quite a bit.

I'm *thinking* of going to the Droid Bionic / Droid Charge if the iPhone 5 doesn't have 4G...but I really think the iPhone is the best of the smart phone crop everything considered. Such a tough decision...and it's not like I try out a Droid Bionic then return it. :\

Are you downloading HD movies on the go or something?

I still don't understand how 4G is a deciding factor when clearly the iPhone is the best consumer smartphone in the market.

So you wait a bit longer for your website to load up, or to download apps. Now a days, there's a WiFi station nearly everywhere i go, so i just sign up there if i want really fast downloading. Although, my 3G speeds are plenty good.

I have indeed wished that webpages load quicker on my iPhone 3G, but i realized it's due to the processor, a 4G network won't make it any easier.
 
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I have vzw grandfathered unlimited, vzw has no data caps and currently does not throttle LTE under my plan

I have the same, but I do think they throttle. I was tethering last month, and used 10Gb in 4 days into my plan. My speeds went from 20/5 to under 10/1.

It is now the next billing cycle, and speeds are back up.
 
...and you point is?

This does not fall into apples equation of meeting demands of the American consumer. Apple built the iPhone 2G for USA. What consumers did with the iPhone 2G outside USA was none of their concern because that was never their intended market. Now however it's a different ball game. With Apple signing contracts with hundreds of carriers around the world, they need to cater to a larger group of consumers and not just that of USA.

It was legitimately being sold by European carriers even though some countries did not support the 'featured' radio band.
 
Are you downloading HD movies on the go or something?

I still don't understand how 4G is a deciding factor when clearly the iPhone is the best consumer smartphone in the market.

So you wait a bit longer for your website to load up, or to download apps. Now a days, there's a WiFi station nearly everywhere i go, so i just sign up there if i want really fast downloading. Although, my 3G speeds are plenty good.

I have indeed wished that webpages load quicker on my iPhone 3G, but i realized it's due to the processor, a 4G network won't make it any easier.


That's great that you have WiFi wherever your heart desires to go. Want to know how many WiFi hotspots I have in my life? Zero unless I stay at Mcdonalds or my house 24/7.

And as for your phones processor issue.. A processor on a phone has little to no effect as to how your phone takes advantage of faster data. The data is still transferred to your phone at the same speed the network provides it. The problem is it will take an ancient processor more time to process the data.
 
That's great that you have WiFi wherever your heart desires to go. Want to know how many WiFi hotspots I have in my life? Zero unless I stay at Mcdonalds or my house 24/7.

And as for your phones processor issue.. A processor on a phone has little to no effect as to how your phone takes advantage of faster data. The data is still transferred to your phone at the same speed the network provides it. The problem is it will take an ancient processor more time to process the data.

How bad is the 3G in Texas?

Your signature states that LTE is supposed to go up to 100 Mbit/s, well the 4G network in my area goes up to 21 Mbit/s max.
 
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I just saw the product book behind the counter at AT&T and they had it open to the new iPhone 4s.....it's stainless steel has a bigger screen and an 8 megapixel camera.
 
AT&T already said don't expect an LTE phone until the end of the year. iPhone 5 will not have LTE. Maybe a surprise for Verizon. I doubt it.

So perhaps the announcement will be for the immediate release of a cheaper 4S for emerging markets in early October, followed by the iPhone 5 with LTE release in January. Both being announced in early october. I can wish, can't I?
 
How bad is the 3G in Texas?

Your signature states that LTE is supposed to go up to 100 Mbit/s, well the 4G network in my area goes up to 21 Mbit/s max.

3G is very good in Texas with somewhere around 90%-95% of the state covered. With a cellphone tower not even a mile from my house I'm getting full LTE coverage with added plans of broadcasting 3G/HSPA+ on the tower as well. Lets just say it's good to live in AT&Ts home State.

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How bad is the 3G in Texas?

Your signature states that LTE is supposed to go up to 100 Mbit/s, well the 4G network in my area goes up to 21 Mbit/s max.

LTE is supposed to go up to 1Gigabit's per second. You are talking about HSPA+ which is 3G with enhanced backhaul.
 
I hit 36 mbps down on my Thunderbolt last week. I seldom go below 10, usually closer to 20.

LTE helps, a lot, with all sorts of things. The coverage is better than many here seem to think, and it's being built out rapidly.
 
have you used a 4G device? I can assure you it is much faster with ~same processor specs.

On a completely separate note:

I was tethering off of my LTE device and it ended up being faster than my FIOS account at home. Just blistering fast. I couldn't believe it.

Best solution that will never happen to address battery issues: put in LTE and make the battery swappable!

You are contributing to the future of tierd data.
 
You are contributing to the future of tierd data.

If he has a Thunderbolt he was just using what Verizon offered for free. If you bought the Thunderbolt within the promotional offer you were given several months of free WiFi hotspot functionality even if you have unlimited data.
 
Expect a 4G/LTE iPad 3, not iPhone 5

Apple is always a step behind the competition in technology...look at how long it took them...just to put a video camera on the phone....still no true multi-tasking.

They win hand down on design
 
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