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Shard.. I don't know what's up with these chinese markets. To me it seems like the run up before a huge bubble burst. I'm waiting for the carry trades to correct.. like in february when we saw drops of 800 pips or so.

Yeah, that's my thinking too. I'm wondering if the carries are going to unwind again and the US markets are going to get hammered as well. I'll keep a close eye on things...

I would have kicked everyone's collective ass.. would have made 20 pips had my trade gone through :p :D

Yeah, but it didn't... :p ;) Just buggin' ya... :D
 
Pretty soon you'll be moving from agoura hills to beverly hills :D

Yeah, that's the goal, anyway. I went driving around sunset and rodeo last night :eek: Those houses are crazy....I cant wait to get one :D (after buying you your mac pro of course :rolleyes: )

Anyway, I've been wondering about the carries also. It seems like a lot is being said about the JPY pairs are at "non sustainable" levels, etc. but it doesnt seem to affect them much like it did in february.

If we have another crash, though, I'll break my "no trading GBP/JPY" rule and short the hell out of it :D
 
You should check out San Diego then. I really like that place.. it's always green and the weather's perfect. GBP/JPY is a monster.. when it does move, it will bounce down 1000 pips or more.
 
Yep, nothing really to trade this morning. Lots of movement, but none of it appears to be as a direct result of the information - at least not at the specific time of its release.... But, I'm sure NFP will more than make up for it tomorrow..... :D

I might just have to resort to technicals again to get me by... :p ;) NZDUSD and AUDUSD are looking like possible short candidiates, as is USDJPY based on a couple indicators of mine... I need more proof though, and right now I'm not sure if I feel comfortable taking any of those as the markets seem quite active today... I'll give it a few more hours...
 
I shorted NZD/USD yesterday.... and now at -80pips. Lucky it was a small order. :eek:
I'm just about to give up on my own technical trading. I don't have the experience to be a speculative tech trader, but with news, I can be reactionary... and profitable. :D

Good luck on the NFP all.
 
Hey guys!

I called time warner to see if they could get out here sooner. To make a long story short, I've got my internet set up now :D

Music_Producer, the traffic was actually better then the last time I came out here. I've been here since sunday afternoon and I have yet to encounter any bad traffic(aside from driving down PCH which is always a mess).

StuNew78, Ive actually been using felix's service for a few weeks now but didnt want to post anything about it until I was sure that it worked. I would sign up for Secret News Weapon though instead of his room because it clicks the button for you :D

If you guys try it out though, sign up under me so I'll get the commission :D

Just go to www.secretforexsociety.com and click join, then enter my email which is nhallmark AT gmail DOT com. That website is free and he has a really good video on NFP and how it works. Its like 3-4 hours long though.

Anyway, Im liking it so far but sometimes, especially on NZD reports, TTN will get the # faster than SNW so Im paying for both right now.

Shard, on CAD reports, the guy tells everyone(in his emails the night before the trade) to trade EUR/CAD if there is US data at the same time.

Supposedly, they are supposed to be releasing a new version in a few weeks that will handle conflicting reports, revisions, etc. but he has been saying that for a few weeks :rolleyes:

Anyway, Im liking LA a lot. Luckily, when I leased my apartment online, I got a good area(agoura hills). Its quiet and safe...one of the only places in LA that doesnt have graffiti on all the street signs :p

nhallmark.... I'll sign up under you. May aswell.... :cool:
 
I shorted NZD/USD yesterday.... and now at -80pips. Lucky it was a small order. :eek:
I'm just about to give up on my own technical trading. I don't have the experience to be a speculative tech trader, but with news, I can be reactionary... and profitable. :D

Good luck on the NFP all.

Stu.. Shard knows quite a bit about technicals.. and he's almost always successful. I am always disastrous at tech trading.. so I stick to news. Based on the inflated AUD/JPY (at 100.70) I shorted a small lot.. and the sucker went to 101!! So when you're shorting AUD or NZD.. remember that these are currencies preferred for the carry trade. So whenever the carry trade is up.. all aud/jpy, gbp/jpy, nzd, etc go higher.

The day these levels break or japan intervenes (i don't think it will) or some finance minister gives a warning etc.. these guys drop in the blink of an eye.
 
Stu.. Shard knows quite a bit about technicals.. and he's almost always successful. I am always disastrous at tech trading.. so I stick to news. Based on the inflated AUD/JPY (at 100.70) I shorted a small lot.. and the sucker went to 101!! So when you're shorting AUD or NZD.. remember that these are currencies preferred for the carry trade. So whenever the carry trade is up.. all aud/jpy, gbp/jpy, nzd, etc go higher.

The day these levels break or japan intervenes (i don't think it will) or some finance minister gives a warning etc.. these guys drop in the blink of an eye.

Hi Music_producer,

It's hard call on the NZDUSD right now... I shorted on the idea that alot of reports are expecting a correction. IMF contacted our government and said 'cool down' on the interest rates (highest in nearly 10 years). But now some are expecting another rate hike to 8% (which I highly doubt)...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=167&objectid=10443024
I'm going to hang on the short with my small lot and wait for a correction.

This brings me to a thought of trading psychology. TA and News are so very far apart to me in preparation, patience and execution. I believe I'm a news trader :)
Can I ask who your current broker is music_producer? I'm on Oanda but just opened an MB trading demo under reccomendation.
 
Stu, my current broker (and soon to be ex-broker) is CMC Markets. I just got a re-quote.. the first time when gbp/usd dropped from 1.9806 to 1.9775.. and then I waited for it to go back up.. and shorted again.. again another re-quote.

I've signed up with Capital Forex (Currenex) but have yet to wait for the account to open (final stages - all paperwork is filed) Can't wait to trade on a real account instead of this sh*t broker that I have. It's such a waste of time to stay up all the time just to get re-quotes. They might as well tell me 'Please stop trading' and I will happily comply.

MB Trading has gotten quite good lately. They used to be horrible earlier.. but apparently now their fills are pretty instantaneous. But, with NFP.. I don't know what kind of slippage you might get.. NFP is the most traded report.
 
Got a requote on NFP, but that thing swung so much due to all the data that it was probably for the best... :eek: ;)

I shorted NZD/USD yesterday.... and now at -80pips. Lucky it was a small order.
I'm just about to give up on my own technical trading. I don't have the experience to be a speculative tech trader, but with news, I can be reactionary... and profitable.

:eek: Sorry to hear about the short Stu. Once my 4-hour chandle closed and I received confirmation on my 1-hour candle that key resistance had been broken, I decided not to take the trade - luckily it was a good non-trade. The pair is up over 100 pips in a couple days, so I would look for a bit of a retracement, but I doubt you'll end up profitable unless you hold for an entire week and something significant happens wrt the interest rate decision next week.

Stu.. Shard knows quite a bit about technicals.. and he's almost always successful. I am always disastrous at tech trading.. so I stick to news. Based on the inflated AUD/JPY (at 100.70) I shorted a small lot.. and the sucker went to 101!! So when you're shorting AUD or NZD.. remember that these are currencies preferred for the carry trade. So whenever the carry trade is up.. all aud/jpy, gbp/jpy, nzd, etc go higher.

Thanks Music_Producer, you're going to make me blush. ;) :) Yeah, it's taken me years and years of trading on the stock markets to gain a decent handle on technicals, but I only use them sparingly, and with small lots. And you make a very good point wrt the carry trade pairs - they defy logic and fundamentals, so it's very risky to short them. But, as you say, all it takes is an event like the end of February and they will drop like a bride's pajamas on her wedding night. :cool:

It's hard call on the NZDUSD right now... I shorted on the idea that alot of reports are expecting a correction. IMF contacted our government and said 'cool down' on the interest rates (highest in nearly 10 years). But now some are expecting another rate hike to 8% (which I highly doubt)...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=167&objectid=10443024
I'm going to hang on the short with my small lot and wait for a correction.

With any trading you really have to pick a strategy and stick to it. A lot can hapen but you always need to keep clear in your mind the reason why you entered a trade and what your're desired outcome is. If the markets are telling you a different story, you have to listen and be willing to abort. I used to do the wrong thing with stocks when I first started. I'd short a stock based on technicals, it would reverse on me, then I'd pick a new exit point, or I'd think about doubling down, and I'd get all caught up in the fact that I was losing money. In the end, I had lost sight of the circumstances under which I initially took the trade - if I would have kept those in mind, I would have saved myself a lot of money by cutting my losses.

In your case, if you are truly shorting NZDUSD basded on what you hope the news will be next week, then that's fine - just don't panic in the meantime if the pair is volatile, and wait for the announcement next week. And more importantly, if the news is bad for you (i.e. a rate hike to 8%), don't chase your losses, don't try and force a winning trade and get the f*ck out of Dodge. Whereas if you were shorting the pair "just cuz" and now it onbviously was a bad decision, I'd get out. You were wrong. We've all been wrong. Live with it and move onto the next trade. :cool:

This brings me to a thought of trading psychology. TA and News are so very far apart to me in preparation, patience and execution. I believe I'm a news trader :)

Yes they are. That being said, they are inexplicably linked at times. Negative news will hammer a pair down, but "coincidentally" the pair will many times bottom out at a key support level, whether it's a double bottom, the 365MA, whatever. Odd... ;) The fact is, there are many technical traders out there who trade based on these types of signals. So, rightly or wrongly, or even if it goes against fundamentals, you have to keep this in mind as there are many traders out there who can sometimes influence the markets as such. For instance, thousands of short or buy orders are placed by the big institutions at key levels, thus making them very hard to break. Look how many times USDJPY hit 122.00 before it could actually break through...

That being said, if news is bad, if there are geopolitical or significant economic events, or if there is a surprise of some other sort, then no amount of technical trading will save you from the fundamentals.

But yes, preparation, psychology, etc. is completely different. You have to do what is right for you. Above all else though, as I've stated before, stick to your plan and exercise discipline. That is absolutely key in this game. :cool:
 
Hey Shard.. love the 2nd tune as well.. I don't know how to classify the music.. it's both Chicane-ish but would also fit well in a video game soundtrack ;) I'll send some of my mp3s to you as well.

What do you think of aud/jpy right now? Do you feel like getting in? I look at gbp/jpy (241) and cad/jpy (114) and usd/jpy (122) All these guys are at higher levels than the aud/jpy... so sometimes I think maybe aud/jpy can go up by 5-10 k pips. As long as there is a nice interest rate differential.. i know all funds would keep buying aud/jpy regardless of risk factors. Sure there will be some dips along the way .. but they would present as further buying opportunities.. I would think.

This is what I'm feeling at the moment.. it's very tempting but you know how I am when it comes to risk. To think that I sold all my aud/jpy when I had bought it at 95 :mad: Could have still been making interest lol.
 
Hey Shard.. love the 2nd tune as well.. I don't know how to classify the music.. it's both Chicane-ish but would also fit well in a video game soundtrack ;) I'll send some of my mp3s to you as well.

Thanks, I truly appreciate the feedback. :) I'll e-mail you a couple more tunes this weekend... perhaps one later tonight if I get a chance to rip ti from our CD archives...

What do you think of aud/jpy right now? Do you feel like getting in? I look at gbp/jpy (241) and cad/jpy (114) and usd/jpy (122) All these guys are at higher levels than the aud/jpy... so sometimes I think maybe aud/jpy can go up by 5-10 k pips. As long as there is a nice interest rate differential.. i know all funds would keep buying aud/jpy regardless of risk factors. Sure there will be some dips along the way .. but they would present as further buying opportunities.. I would think.

This is what I'm feeling at the moment.. it's very tempting but you know how I am when it comes to risk. To think that I sold all my aud/jpy when I had bought it at 95 :mad: Could have still been making interest lol.

Yeah, I know what you mean. If only we would have bought after the crash at the end of February! What did AUDJPY hit at that point, 89 cents?! Yikes...

Anyway, I'm not sure what to make of the carry trade situation right now. The situation is pretty bullish right now, especially as the BoJ likely will remain on hold for the foreseeable future and will be lucky to get away with one increase this year.

There are arguments for a possible unwinding as well though. The US Fed has basically stated they expect growth to be trending up (and therefore inflation trending down) which removes the possibility of a rate change, so that area of potential appreciation is not available. Also, rising bond yields are a big cause for concern. Actually the bond situation right now is very intriguing. But that's another matter for discussion as well... ;) This only impacts USDJPY, but still, if one carry trade is impacted, the others may easily follow...

The overall uptrend is likely to continue for the time being in my opinion although how much longer is hard to say. At some point though, if things turn, I'd say they're going to turn 180 degrees. It won't be pretty. :cool:
 
AHHHH New MacBook Pros.. there goes my concentration on trading :D :D :D I gotta get me one of these suckers.. today.. right NOW! It's 5.52 am.. maybe if I go and bang on the apple store's door they might take pity.. I.... can't.... wait..
 
Yes, they do look pretty sweet! A nice signficant update too, not just a speed bump. Santa Rosa, LED displays, 2 GB RAM, more HD space, upgraded video card - it's all good! My wife and I will probably be picking one up soon as well. I might hold off just a little while though in ordering due to a) it's summer and we're always busy with things and don't spend much time on the computer and b) with more Leopard news at WWDC, there is a slim chance Apple will offer a partial Leopard rebate for anyone purchasing a new mac between WWDC and the October release date.

In forex news, I took a bad short against NZDUSD (it was, and still is, waaaay overbought) and my stop hit for a -25 pip loss as the pair broke 7500. You can't win them all! However I made it back and then some with a nice short on the USDJPY. Opened it up last night at 121.77 and my TP hit this morning at 121.27. Only a $50K lot (I never like using much more than that for technical trades since I still don't trust them completely ;)) but still, I'll take the $250!

Anyone catch Bernanke's speech this morning? Haha, silly US, they're screwed... :p ;) :D Seriously, I don't know why people were expecting a US rate cut anytime soon. If anything a rate hike is in order and that will just further exacerbate the housing market's negative situation. Longer term, I don't see good things ahead for the US...
 
In forex news, I took a bad short against NZDUSD (it was, and still is, waaaay overbought) and my stop hit for a -25 pip loss as the pair broke 7500. You can't win them all! However I made it back and then some with a nice short on the USDJPY. Opened it up last night at 121.77 and my TP hit this morning at 121.27. Only a $50K lot (I never like using much more than that for technical trades since I still don't trust them completely ;)) but still, I'll take the $250!

Anyone catch Bernanke's speech this morning? Haha, silly US, they're screwed... :p ;) :D Seriously, I don't know why people were expecting a US rate cut anytime soon. If anything a rate hike is in order and that will just further exacerbate the housing market's negative situation. Longer term, I don't see good things ahead for the US...

Yeah.. that nzd and aud are unpredictable.. just when you think they're going to fall they shoot up by like 50 pips. I'm not touching those unless japan raises rates surprising everyone.

People, unfortunately, are always optimistic. You should hear the 'analysts' talk about the real estate problem. It went from 'Oh nothing will happen' to 'Maybe a little soft landing' to 'It's really bad'.. but now again they're saying that the housing market has bottomed. Bah.. get ready for another 30-50% drop.

The US has to raise rates.. I said that like 2 years ago.. hey Bush should appoint me to the Fed. Then I'll give you guys pre-news info :p

Oh and on today's ISM trade, got a re-quote from cmc. My currenex account should be active any time soon.. so will post on how that works out for me.
 
AHHHH New MacBook Pros.. there goes my concentration on trading :D :D :D I gotta get me one of these suckers.. today.. right NOW! It's 5.52 am.. maybe if I go and bang on the apple store's door they might take pity.. I.... can't.... wait..

I just bought my MBP 4 weeks ago... :confused: Now I missed out on DX10 for my gaming in between releases :rolleyes:
I lost quite abit on the NZD/USD. I've decided to retire from TA trading. I'm going to stick to news for a few months and see what my results are like.

music_producer I thought you'd like to have a look at this video care of Felix's service. It just shows using MB trading for news releases.
https://www.secretnewsweapon.com/MBTrading34.html

The platform is not very intuitive, but the service seems very good.
 
I just bought my MBP 4 weeks ago... :confused: Now I missed out on DX10 for my gaming in between releases :rolleyes:

That's to bad Stu, I'm sorry to hear that. :( Were you a member of MacRumors at the time of your purchase? I guess a tough lesson for next time is to always check the rumor mill for what it's worth. Still, doesn't help you in your current situation, so I feel for ya...

I lost quite abit on the NZD/USD. I've decided to retire from TA trading. I'm going to stick to news for a few months and see what my results are like.

One of the keys of technical trading is to employ intelligent stop losses. If you are trading purely on technicals, then have stops which reflect that. Identify and confirm key resistance and support levels and place your stops just past these points. That way, if a resistance line is hit, you won't get stopped out, but if it is breached, then your stop will hit, which is a good thing because in all likelihood the trade is about top turn against you. Know when the deal is done. Also, always keep in mind what economic releases there are in the near future which could adversely affect your pair. Technicals mean squat if economic news deviates significantly from expectations.

Above all else though, hang in there! Never give up and keep learning. As I've said before, trading takes discipline. You need to completely remove emotion form your trading. I like to say that the equal twins of disaster in trading are Fear and Greed. :cool:
 
Excellent trade on the Aussie GDP report! Traded AUDUSD, in and out in 4 seconds flat, 8385-8397 for 12 pips, no requotes, no nothing. I wish they could all go that smoothly! :cool:
 
I was reading a bit and it seems that nzd's going up due to another rate hike expectation. Bad time to trade whenever any interest rate announcement is close.. so stay away from those pairs. Just stick to gbp/usd or eur/usd if trading technicals.

I'm glad I waited for the MBP.. it's been an agonizing wait but worth it. :)

Stu, I don't know how that software works now.. but when I used it, it was worthless. Also, I was faster than it.. so it doesn't make sense for me to fork out extra money just for it to do something about 2 seconds later than what I can usually do. Watch out for any third party solutions.. remember you are not in control of your trades.. the software is. You are, eventually using the internet.. and if there is some slight latency and that software clicks a few seconds late.. you could be out by a lot of pips.

I couldn't log into my cmc platform .. so i missed that trade. Good one though shard!
 
I couldn't log into my cmc platform .. so i missed that trade. Good one though shard!

Man, that sucks - I can totally see why you're eager to move away from CMC... :( And yeah, the trade worked out well. Obviously if I would have held on I could have made more, but then that wouldn't have been trading the news, now would it? ;) :cool:

Do you expect anything big to happen regarding the EUR interest rate announcement tomorrow AM? I'll be watching it just in case... I assume a rate hike is expected and essentially already priced in due to the recent upward movement of EURUSD?
 
Yup, a hike is expected at ecb's interest rate decision tomorrow, and that is priced in. Before that rate decision though, check out what the eur/usd levels are. If they go way too high (1.3550 or so) and rate comes out as expected.. then eur/usd should drop 10-20 pips (who knows.. could drop more)

Of course, watch out if they don't change the rates at all.. eur/usd should drop a good 50-70 pips then.
 
Yup, a hike is expected at ecb's interest rate decision tomorrow, and that is priced in. Before that rate decision though, check out what the eur/usd levels are. If they go way too high (1.3550 or so) and rate comes out as expected.. then eur/usd should drop 10-20 pips (who knows.. could drop more)

Of course, watch out if they don't change the rates at all.. eur/usd should drop a good 50-70 pips then.

Will do - I'll be watching! I'll also be watching the kiwi interest rate decision later in the day - I have a feeling that's going to move the NZDUSD regardless of what the announcement is! ;)
 
I was reading a bit and it seems that nzd's going up due to another rate hike expectation. Bad time to trade whenever any interest rate announcement is close.. so stay away from those pairs. Just stick to gbp/usd or eur/usd if trading technicals.

I'm glad I waited for the MBP.. it's been an agonizing wait but worth it. :)

Stu, I don't know how that software works now.. but when I used it, it was worthless. Also, I was faster than it.. so it doesn't make sense for me to fork out extra money just for it to do something about 2 seconds later than what I can usually do. Watch out for any third party solutions.. remember you are not in control of your trades.. the software is. You are, eventually using the internet.. and if there is some slight latency and that software clicks a few seconds late.. you could be out by a lot of pips.

I couldn't log into my cmc platform .. so i missed that trade. Good one though shard!

MP, I was thinking more of the video as an example of how MB Trading is currently operating. Seems alot of news traders are moving over to them, and with your CMC problems thought it might be an option? I've just opened up an account but won't know for several weeks how it performs for me.
 
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