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As of now, Amazon best seller
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#2
Apple iPod touch 32 GB (3rd Generation) NEWEST MODEL

#5
Apple iPod touch 8 GB (3rd Generation) NEWEST MODEL

#24
Apple iPod touch 64 GB (3rd Generation) NEWEST MODEL

#30 (and dropping)
Zune HD 32 GB Video MP3 Player


My guess is that it's not selling well at all. If that's indeed true, will Apple release the camera version sooner than later?

Your guess = way off. Try to look up sales data next time.
 
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no way? you have no idea about business. ipod nano is the best ipod has ever been sold from Apple. it's cheaper than ipod touch. now, it got camera, bigger screen, other good features. usually, it is already out selling than ipod touch. Zune? I am not sure if MS do something about improvement on apps, games, whatever soon. the whole zune market share is only 1.1%. it's almost not existed. even Zune HD will take it over. it will be temporary. zune will never be better.

Looks like I do know business. Have you checked Apple's and Amazon's numbers?
 
The Nano/Classic and the click wheel in general are on the way out. Apple is eventually going to have to grow the ipod brand in earnest, and putting on little attachments to a device that has barely any use for them, is not the way to go, like they did with the nano.

The touch is going to have to get cheaper and cheaper, and they will have to add more and more features to it, because if they keep this mentality of, keep the iphone and itouch seperate, pretty soon other companies will capitalize on the fact that Apple is stunting the touch's growth, and will throw in features that will make alternatives like the Zune, hard to pass up.
 
The Nano/Classic and the click wheel in general are on the way out. Apple is eventually going to have to grow the ipod brand in earnest, and putting on little attachments to a device that has barely any use for them, is not the way to go, like they did with the nano.

The touch is going to have to get cheaper and cheaper, and they will have to add more and more features to it, because if they keep this mentality of, keep the iphone and itouch seperate, pretty soon other companies will capitalize on the fact that Apple is stunting the touch's growth, and will throw in features that will make alternatives like the Zune, hard to pass up.

The thing is the zune is not avaible world wide.For there to be a alternative to give apple a run would really have to be world wide.
 
The thing is the zune is not avaible world wide.For there to be a alternative to give apple a run would really have to be world wide.

America is a huge part of that. I'm not sure how much, but I'm sure it's a considerable part of their sales. The Zune HD doesn't have to take back a majority in the market, I'm just saying a large chunk.
 
America is a huge part of that. I'm not sure how much, but I'm sure it's a considerable part of their sales. The Zune HD doesn't have to take back a majority in the market, I'm just saying a large chunk.

U.S. is NOT America.

America = Canada all the way to argentina.

Amazon store sales number is for the U.S. store, as each country have a different amazon store.

Zune HD is already a failure in the market, due to usability problems (wow, a media player without a good way to control media playing). And it shows, by its falling ranking in sales. It's not even a week and the most "popular" version has already dropped to #30.
 
U.S. is NOT America.

America = Canada all the way to argentina.

Amazon store sales number is for the U.S. store, as each country have a different amazon store.

Zune HD is already a failure in the market, due to usability problems (wow, a media player without a good way to control media playing). And it shows, by its falling ranking in sales. It's not even a week and the most "popular" version has already dropped to #30.

:rolleyes: You know what I mean. The United States of America. Or maybe I should stay Continental United States of America, would that be better for you? Since you want to argue over terminology when you know full fell what my meaning is? Pfft.

And I think we can both agree, it's been a week. A WEEK, let's give it a year before we start calling something a failure shall we? Oh, and that poorly written, biased as all hell blog written by "some guy" is hardly compelling evidence. Especially since half those features mentioned only took 3 years to be implemented.
 
:rolleyes: You know what I mean. The United States of America. Or maybe I should stay Continental United States of America, would that be better for you? Since you want to argue over terminology when you know full fell what my meaning is? Pfft.

And I think we can both agree, it's been a week. A WEEK, let's give it a year before we start calling something a failure shall we? Oh, and that poorly written, biased as all hell blog written by "some guy" is hardly compelling evidence. Especially since half those features mentioned only took 3 years to be implemented.

Arstechnica:
Regarding to the media controls, such as change the volume, skip to the next song, or even stop playback, Arstechnica review has called attention of usability problems. Referring to the poorly implemented controls of the Microsoft Zune HD, the reviewer said “usability has taken a punch to the gut” and “the more I used this, the more I hated it.”

Boston Globe:
The Zune HD is better than Apple's 2006 iPod players. "Too bad it's 2009."


Zune had 3 years already.

Fact: After 1 week zune already dropped to #30 while iPod touch is at #2.

Dream on.
 
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