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Ya gonna update to 4.1?

Just updated my series 0 to 4.1. Of course too soon to tell, but every update seems to improve performance and battery for me. I’ve barely noticed any drop in battery and I’ve had my S0 for over two years.

I’m curious to see if I will notice any issues pairing it to an iPhone X. I’m still using the iPhone 6 at the moment.
 
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How do you use yours?

I wear it about 22 hours a day, because I wear it to bed for sleep tracking. I typically charge it at night while I’m putting the kids to bed. Then I put it back on for sleep tracking. When I wake up it usually has about 85% left, and I top it off while I’m taking a shower and getting dressed. That puts it back up to 100% when I leave for work at 7:30. Twelve hours later I usually still have about 25-30% battery if I don’t record a workout. The big variable is recording workouts. It seems to consume 10% battery per hour of workout. So a one hour workout might put me down to 20% 12 hours later, and a two hour workout drops me to 10%. I am sure the battery isn’t what it used to be, given they all degrade over time. However watchOS improvements over time seem to be making it more efficient? I will say that workouts seem to have a bigger impact than before.

I interact with the watch dozens of times per day. I rely a lot on notifications, use Hey Siri to set reminders, use it to control music or podcasts I’m listening to, set timers, view calendar and weather, etc. I also use it for grocery lists and Apple Pay. On occasion I will answer or make a phone call using the watch, but those are usually brief conversations. I would expect longer conversations to impact battery life.

I’m still very happy with my Series 0, but I will eventually want to upgrade to a newer and faster model. Hopefully the battery will hold out until then, but as soon as I can no longer make it 14 hours or so on a single charge I will be upgrading.

Sean
 
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I wear it about 22 hours a day, because I wear it to bed for sleep tracking. I typically charge it at night while I’m putting the kids to bed. Then I put it back on for sleep tracking. When I wake up it usually has about 85% left, and I top it off while I’m taking a shower and getting dressed. That puts it back up to 100% when I leave for work at 7:30. Twelve hours later I usually still have about 25-30% battery if I don’t record a workout. The big variable is recording workouts. It seems to consume 10% battery per hour of workout. So a one hour workout might put me down to 20% 12 hours later, and a two hour workout drops me to 10%. I am sure the battery isn’t what it used to be, given they all degrade over time. However watchOS improvements over time seem to be making it more efficient? I will say that workouts seem to have a bigger impact than before.
Interesting that you’re seeing similar life over time, that’s why I asked. I definitely saw a decrease going from OS3 to OS4, but there will be a number of variables involved. My workout consumoption tends to vary somewhat, possibly due to the screen coming on more frequently or the distance from the watch to iPhone. When I’m in the office or at home though, I put the watch into airplane mode to conserve battery. I normally end the day with around 40-50% on average with OS4, whereas it would typically be 60% with OS3.

Hopefully the battery will hold out until then, but as soon as I can no longer make it 14 hours or so on a single charge I will be upgrading.
Sean
Good approach. It just becomes too much of a hack otherwise.
 
Yeah probably. I wish it came out sooner when i still had AppleCare on it lol

Updates on Apple Watch do frighten me

Whatever os this series1 was on took an eternity to update to 4.1 and I had to hard reset. But a few hours between download and install!

Hopefully I don't have to update / care to update again for a bit unless there's some
Cool features in 4.2 or whatever
 
Updates on Apple Watch do frighten me

Whatever os this series1 was on took an eternity to update to 4.1 and I had to hard reset. But a few hours between download and install!

Hopefully I don't have to update / care to update again for a bit unless there's some
Cool features in 4.2 or whatever

Doesn’t the updates kind of eventually render the early models useless with each update. My son is convinced Apple want people to stop wearing the older watches and phones lol. I don’t want to beleive it but his reasoning kinda made sense. He believes they can mess up the batteries at will regardless if they are degraded or not, that the new software has variables for individual series of watch. Basically if it works perfect one day and the next after an update it’s ready for scrap.

Of course I had just went out yesterday and picked up an older model Apple Watch which is why I was subjected to this stern lecture from my 15 year old (wannabe software programmer when he grows up ;))

Any way I didn’t even have a clue what model I had, just paid £150 for and still don’t know the model. I’m all about iPhone, iPad but never had experience of the watches, so kinda went in blind tbf. All I saw was the gorgeous packaging and I was sold, apple definitely know how to sell a product with packaging alone ;) my watches box says “Sport” series 7000 so can I assume this is the S0 (entry model) you guys are discussing here? I have not long set it up and the battery does seem to be draining much quicker than I expected. Around 8-10% an hour..not sure what’s considered normal though.
Also says on my iPhone watch app that it’s running OS 4.1...is that a problem for these watches guys?
 
Doesn’t the updates kind of eventually render the early models useless with each update. My son is convinced Apple want people to stop wearing the older watches and phones lol. I don’t want to beleive it but his reasoning kinda made sense. He believes they can mess up the batteries at will regardless if they are degraded or not, that the new software has variables for individual series of watch. Basically if it works perfect one day and the next after an update it’s ready for scrap.

Of course I had just went out yesterday and picked up an older model Apple Watch which is why I was subjected to this stern lecture from my 15 year old (wannabe software programmer when he grows up ;))

Any way I didn’t even have a clue what model I had just paid £150 for and still don’t know the model. All I saw was the gorgeous packaging and I was sold, apple definitely know how to sell a product with packaging alone ;) my watches box says “Sport” series 7000 so can I assume this is the S0 you guys are discussing here. I have not long set it up and the battery does seem to be draining much quicker than I expected. Around 8-10% an hour..not sure what’s considered normal though.
Also says on my iPhone watch app that it’s running OS 4.1...is that a problem for these watches guys?

Yes series 7000 = s0

Can’t comment on it and 4.1

S1 and 4.1, so far, seems slick and good

My s0 is prolly retiring at 3.1
 
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Yes series 7000 = s0

Can’t comment on it and 4.1

S1 and 4.1, so far, seems slick and good
Thanks. So is there quite a departure from s0 & s1 then? I do wish I would have researched a bit beforehand. I honestly didn’t even know there was a S0 before S1 :confused:
 
Thanks. So is there quite a departure from s0 & s1 then? I do wish I would have researched a bit beforehand. I honestly didn’t even know there was a S0 before S1 :confused:

In theory definitely 50 percent faster for s1/s2 since s0 = single core, and the others are dual.

S3 is 70 percent faster than s1/s2

S0 on 3.1 ran smooth enough for me I don’t really use apps. Just notifications and the time and some exploring once every blue moon but not really
 
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Doesn’t the updates kind of eventually render the early models useless with each update.
Nope. My S0 got better and better with each update. Frankly, I was amazed the first time, and I didn’t hesitate to do each later update.



my watches box says “Sport” series 7000 so can I assume this is the S0 (entry model) you guys are discussing here? I have not long set it up and the battery does seem to be draining much quicker than I expected. Around 8-10% an hour..not sure what’s considered normal though.
Also says on my iPhone watch app that it’s running OS 4.1...is that a problem for these watches guys?
- It’s 7000-Series aluminum, hence the verbiage about “7000”;

- It’ll drain its battery faster the first day or two while it feeds itself sync data from the phone — apps, emails, things like that. It’ll settle down soon enough.

- watchOS 4.1 should be good to go. The S0 hasn’t been deprecated yet.
 
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Doesn’t the updates kind of eventually render the early models useless with each update. My son is convinced Apple want people to stop wearing the older watches and phones lol. I don’t want to beleive it but his reasoning kinda made sense. He believes they can mess up the batteries at will regardless if they are degraded or not, that the new software has variables for individual series of watch. Basically if it works perfect one day and the next after an update it’s ready for scrap.

Of course I had just went out yesterday and picked up an older model Apple Watch which is why I was subjected to this stern lecture from my 15 year old (wannabe software programmer when he grows up ;))

Any way I didn’t even have a clue what model I had, just paid £150 for and still don’t know the model. I’m all about iPhone, iPad but never had experience of the watches, so kinda went in blind tbf. All I saw was the gorgeous packaging and I was sold, apple definitely know how to sell a product with packaging alone ;) my watches box says “Sport” series 7000 so can I assume this is the S0 (entry model) you guys are discussing here? I have not long set it up and the battery does seem to be draining much quicker than I expected. Around 8-10% an hour..not sure what’s considered normal though.
Also says on my iPhone watch app that it’s running OS 4.1...is that a problem for these watches guys?

I’ve been running iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 3g. My series 0 Apple Watch has 4.1 on it and so far so good.

In my experience it’s usually not the OS upgrades that slow down old devices. It’s the app updates. Apple is pretty good about supporting older models, but app developers not so much. They update apps to take advantage of new hardware. Of course newer devices will run new iOS and watchOS versions better, but Apple will sometimes simply make some new features unavailable on old devices. Whether they do that to inspire upgrades or to avoid slowing down old devices is debatable. Then again this all might be changing. iOS 11 and even iOS 10 slowed down my iPhone 6 even before I updated apps. It used to seem like older hardware would do fine with os updates, and wouldn’t feel slow until you started updating apps. OS upgrades tend to coincide with new hardware releases. Both spawn app updates. The series 0 watch, on the other hand, has actually gotten better with app updates in my opinion. It’s the first gadget I’ve ever owned that works better two years old than it did when I bought it. Perhaps that’s proof that the original watchOS was beta.

Yes, your 7000 is the original series 0. 8-10% battery drain is normal during a workout, but fast for non workout periods... unless you’re just playing around with it a lot because it is new. Unusually fast battery drain also occurs when a device is first set up, and sometimes after watchOS updates. The watch has to spend more time than usual syncing data and indexing it. That can mean several days of poor battery life until things settle down. My series 0 is nearing 2.5 years old and outside of workouts the battery drains at around 6% per hour.

Sean
 
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I’ve been running iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 3g. My series 0 Apple Watch has 4.1 on it and so far so good.

In my experience it’s usually not the OS upgrades that slow down old devices. It’s the app updates. Apple is pretty good about supporting older models, but app developers not so much. They update apps to take advantage of new hardware. Of course newer devices will run new iOS and watchOS versions better, but Apple will sometimes simply make some new features unavailable on old devices. Whether they do that to inspire upgrades or to avoid slowing down old devices is debatable. Then again this all might be changing. iOS 11 and even iOS 10 slowed down my iPhone 6 even before I updated apps. It used to seem like older hardware would do fine with os updates, and wouldn’t feel slow until you started updating apps. OS upgrades tend to coincide with new hardware releases. Both spawn app updates. The series 0 watch, on the other hand, has actually gotten better with app updates in my opinion. It’s the first gadget I’ve ever owned that works better two years old than it did when I bought it. Perhaps that’s proof that the original watchOS was beta.

Yes, your 7000 is the original series 0. 8-10% battery drain is normal during a workout, but fast for non workout periods... unless you’re just playing around with it a lot because it is new. Unusually fast battery drain also occurs when a device is first set up, and sometimes after watchOS updates. The watch has to spend more time than usual syncing data and indexing it. That can mean several days of poor battery life until things settle down. My series 0 is nearing 2.5 years old and outside of workouts the battery drains at around 6% per hour.

Sean

That's awesome ! Good to know

I only got a series1 cus I found one for cheap and needed a second watch for iOS 11/IPhone x

My s0 has to stay 3.1 for support with my iOS 10 SE and 7Plus (JAILBROKEN)

Didn't wanna chance upgrading s0 and experience being deteriorated tho posts like this make me hopeful. But even so don't wanna miss opportunity to sync that watch with my other two modern iPhones
 
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Thanks guys. These responses are much appreciated and I have helped a lot to know that the watch may need some time to settle. I set it up today as New’ as I didn’t want to bring any of my iPhone apps over. I then saw the battery draining over the next few hours stupid fast, however i was also checking it excessively and Obvs contributing to the issue.

Anyway, I got slightly panicked that I had bought a dud and erased all content, unpaired and reset network settings on iPhone and have now started fresh...I will see how it goes over the next few days. It was great to hear you guys reminding me that it can take time to settle down after initial setup. I picked up a couple of messages on the watch & was impressed how intuitive it felt to message without touching my phone :D
 
I preordered the S0, 42mm, SS w/ sportsband and within a month found a replica link band that has held up all this time. In fact, the third party link band with the same closure design as 's was around $50 (but probably the first of its kind to market) vs the $550 (I think that's what it cost at launch) which I had repaired twice because the face became detached as some of the others mentioned. Apple was much more closed lipped about the issue and its repair. The only insight they provided me at the store was that the watches are their only product repaired off-site. Obviously lots of their products get sent out for repair, but the point was that it's the only product they never do any repairs to in store whatsoever. After a lot of conversation because the second time they wanted to charge me almost $300 but a face to face with the manager rectified that situation. During the back and forth with him, he also revealed that not only are repairs 100% off site, but are completed by a 3rd party. I don't know if any of this is true, but he told me about the 3rd party that does all their watch repairs when pressed about how come they couldn't advise me on an eta for receiving the watch back. Also, the only option was to call or stop by every few days after the initial 7-10 days to inquire if it's in. No option for direct shipment to me. I don't remember off hand if that's always the case, because for some reason I do remember getting the first unibody macbook pro (2009) repaired and shipped directly to me. Maybe it's due to the size and the fact that the repair was done by a 3rd party that they wanted me to sign for it in person. I don't know. I'm sure things are different now, but they were very sketchy about it and like anytime you deal with the store and bring up others on the support forums with the same problem, I think 9 out of 10 times they tell me they are unaware of the problem. Every so often they acknowledge a problem (again in my experience) but that seems to be something they are actively trying to fix and want my participation which has included daily calls with an engineer or senior customer support person who gives you their contact info and doesn't respond (again, just my own experience). All that aside, I think they gave me an S1 but I may still have the S0 (I'll have to look up the S/N or model#), it's handled all the betas and upgrades. Yes it's slow, but it great for certain uses especially as a psychologist, I can use the timer or another notification and as long as I'm wearing it I don't think the vibration motor is audible. Sorry for the long post....single dad, 4am, insomnia. My bad.
 
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Updates on Apple Watch do frighten me

Whatever os this series1 was on took an eternity to update to 4.1 and I had to hard reset. But a few hours between download and install!

Hopefully I don't have to update / care to update again for a bit unless there's some
Cool features in 4.2 or whatever

I agree and i don’t think I’m updating too 4.1.
 
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