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nightlong

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I’ve just got my iPad Pro 12.9 m1. It’s wonderful, but I’m feeling nervous because ...

I was advised by an Apple tech guy not to put a screen protecter on it. I have always put protectors on my iPads, so feeling nervous as this iPad was so expensive and I want to use the Apple Pencil with it.

i‘d love to hear from people who are not using protectors, and who haven’t had any scratches from using the Apple Pencil for a long time.

‘’I am loving using it naked, feels more responsive than with a glass protector and much less reflective too.

I can totally understand the argument of why buy this beautiful screen and then cover it with lower quality glass or plastic?

But I am anxious about scratching, I could not afford to replace the screen.
 

Applicator

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I think it depends on how and where you intend to use it, because it's not the pencil that's scratching your screen, but the particles that got caught on it's tip. I've used a protector on my 2020 from day one, and my colleague used his 2020 naked. Both are still fine after a year and approximately a 1000hrs office-only use. Ymmv if you're working in a rougher environment.
By the way, I use a clear glass protector and there is barely any difference in responsiveness, reflection and finger print resistance.
Apart from scratch protection, a high quality glass protector might save your display in case you drop your iPad or drop something on the iPad.
My recommendation: Get a good glas protector, try it out, throw it away if you don't like it. It's a 1000+$ device, don't get thrifty with a 19.99 protection.
 
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nightlong

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Of course, accidents can happen. But I have owned 8 iPads and I have never dropped one and even the protectors are not scratched. So, I don’t work in rough environments and I am careful. They are always covered with smart covers when not in use.

I have a mini which goes almost everywhere in a felted compartment in the back of my shoulder bag. The others mostly are used at home.
 

slplss

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New iPP naked user here. Always wipe the tip before I start using it, ensure the screen is clean and I don’t wear any bracelets to scratch it, I think I‘m good. My iPad 3 (the OG line) has been used with capacitive pens, no screen protectors, no scratches.
From my understaning, unless there’s a coarse, sand-like particle on your screen, there’s no way Pencil will scratch it.
 

jmgregory1

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I’m a huge fan and current user of the iCarez matte finish film screen protector. Had one on my iPP 12.9 2018, which actually saved the screen from what would have been a huge scratch when it fell onto a brick patio, and now have one on my 2021 12.9” M1 iPP. I can’t stand glass screen protectors because of the added thickness, and the matte finish of this film version makes using the Pencil that much more realistic. It also helps with reflectivity and is easier to clean than the iPad’s glass screen. The fitment is perfect as well.
 

ssledoux

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I’m a huge fan and current user of the iCarez matte finish film screen protector. Had one on my iPP 12.9 2018, which actually saved the screen from what would have been a huge scratch when it fell onto a brick patio, and now have one on my 2021 12.9” M1 iPP. I can’t stand glass screen protectors because of the added thickness, and the matte finish of this film version makes using the Pencil that much more realistic. It also helps with reflectivity and is easier to clean than the iPad’s glass screen. The fitment is perfect as well.

I had this on my last iPP, and I loved how it felt to write, but always wondered if I was doing myself a disservice because it does dull the display so much. Do you find that to be an issue, or are you using your pencil so much that it makes it worth it?

Asking because I'm currently trying to decide on glass vs the iCarez myself for my 2021.
 

Oreon

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Never put a screen protector on an iPad, wish I had now 12.9 256GB 5G, slipped off my laptop stand, landed face down, soon as I get my AppleCare express replacement I’ll be putting a tempered glass screen protector on it before I switch it on.
 

Absrnd

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This is Macrumors, if the pencil would scratch the screen in any .......any way, there would be non stop complaining about it, and many "Gates" would have been invented :)

I think putting a screen protector on an iPad, is like putting a transparent cover on your couch, no matter how you think about it, it will still look like a plastic couch cover :)

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jmgregory1

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I had this on my last iPP, and I loved how it felt to write, but always wondered if I was doing myself a disservice because it does dull the display so much. Do you find that to be an issue, or are you using your pencil so much that it makes it worth it?

Asking because I'm currently trying to decide on glass vs the iCarez myself for my 2021.
After my 2018 iPP fell on the patio (from about 24”, so not a huge distance), and I had to pull the damaged iCarez film screen protector off, I was really off-put by the reflectivity of the naked screen. That, and in just a day of using it naked, I was also reminded how quickly the glass shows fingerprints and smudges and requires a much more thorough cleaning. As far as my Pencil use goes, I typically use it every day, but that isn’t solely why I got the matte protector.
 
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DoubleFlyaway

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I’ve just got my iPad Pro 12.9 m1. It’s wonderful, but I’m feeling nervous because ...

I was advised by an Apple tech guy not to put a screen protecter on it. I have always put protectors on my iPads, so feeling nervous as this iPad was so expensive and I want to use the Apple Pencil with it.

i‘d love to hear from people who are not using protectors, and who haven’t had any scratches from using the Apple Pencil for a long time.

‘’I am loving using it naked, feels more responsive than with a glass protector and much less reflective too.

I can totally understand the argument of why buy this beautiful screen and then cover it with lower quality glass or plastic?

But I am anxious about scratching, I could not afford to replace the screen.
I use the pencil for hours a day and have for years, and I have never scratched the screen.
 
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DoubleFlyaway

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I had this on my last iPP, and I loved how it felt to write, but always wondered if I was doing myself a disservice because it does dull the display so much. Do you find that to be an issue, or are you using your pencil so much that it makes it worth it?

Asking because I'm currently trying to decide on glass vs the iCarez myself for my 2021.
I felt the same. I loved the feel of a paper-like protector but not enough for how it took away from the brightness of the screen.
 

Absrnd

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After my 2018 iPP fell on the patio (from about 24”, so not a huge distance), and I had to pull the damaged iCarez film screen protector off, I was really off-put by the reflectivity of the naked screen. That, and in just a day of using it naked, I was also reminded how quickly the glass shows fingerprints and smudges and requires a much more thorough cleaning. As far as my Pencil use goes, I typically use it every day, but that isn’t solely why I got the matte protector.

Reducing the screens sharpness significantly is something I do not understand you want to do ?

Also a screen protector, espcially the cheap ones will damage the anti-reflective and fingerprint coating from the glue chemicals, and I am not surprised the screen looks worse after removing your screen protector.
 

AVBeatMan

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I always use PaperLike on my iPads. Put one on my new 12.9 as soon as I unpacked it. I’d rather be safe than sorry. I don’t get AppleCare for my iPads, just my iPhones.
 

Ludatyk

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Never put a screen protector on an iPad, wish I had now 12.9 256GB 5G, slipped off my laptop stand
Very unfortunate! I've had my share of iPad drops in the past.. and each time, my heart stops briefly. And I investigate to see any damages. When will you see your replacement from Apple?

I can totally understand the argument of why buy this beautiful screen and then cover it with lower quality glass or plastic?
I've been an iPad user since the 2nd generation, I've never used a screen protector. However, I am interested in that paperlike screen protector... not sure if I'm going to buy it.
 

Oreon

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Very unfortunate! I've had my share of iPad drops in the past.. and each time, my heart stops briefly. And I investigate to see any damages. When will you see your replacement from Apple?
Its in the post so hopefully Tuesday. It was in the Logitech combo keyboard case, although with the kickstand I misjudged how much room it'd need on my laptop stand and it fell backwards.
 

nightlong

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Reducing the screens sharpness significantly is something I do not understand you want to do ?

Also a screen protector, espcially the cheap ones will damage the anti-reflective and fingerprint coating from the glue chemicals, and I am not surprised the screen looks worse after removing your screen protector.
The Apple tech person told me this too, he is so against screen protectors because there is a high risk of damaging the screen’s coating when you take them off.
 
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nightlong

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I have another question …

I recently bought a Twelve South duo stand, which is now available on the Apple Store. It’s great, but it has a very strong stretch clamp. I’ve been using it on my other iPads, including first gen 12.9, without a problem. But as the new 12.9s are prone to bending, wondering if I should use it on the 2021 12.9.

it says on their website that it is compatible with all iPads.

realising how carefree my life was with a first gen 12.9 that according to Apple is worth $260, compared with this mortgage inducing new one!!
 

jmgregory1

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Reducing the screens sharpness significantly is something I do not understand you want to do ?

Also a screen protector, espcially the cheap ones will damage the anti-reflective and fingerprint coating from the glue chemicals, and I am not surprised the screen looks worse after removing your screen protector.
The very minimal reduction in sharpness is easy to accept given the huge reduction in reflectivity. I’m writing this with the sun shining in behind me and the matte finish just evens out the reflections.

And no, there was no damage to the screen from the non-migrating adhesive (which is water based, btw) to my last iPP. My issue with the naked iPP glass is that it is too reflective and even brand new shows every little fingerprint and smudge. For a device that I use as both a laptop-style non-touch device and as a touch tablet, it drives me crazy to have a messing screen, and this protector just makes it super easy to clean, and there is less reason to clean it because it hides more of the fingerprints.

Just getting this new M1 iPP, I was really careful in removing the plastic wrap, so I didn’t have to clean it before applying the screen protector. But even the very tips of my fingers touching the edges of the screen left marks - and that was after washing my hands first to ensure they were clean and dry. Now I don’t have to worry about it.
 
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DMG35

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I take notes on my iPad every day and can’t live without the Paperlike screen protectors. I use an off brand that I actually like more than the Paperlike brand. I love the matte screen and writing on the iPad is sooooooooooooo much better than just writing on the regular glass screen.
 
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nightlong

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Apple Care+ is my screen protection.
But, I think, Applecare doesn’t protect against fine scratches only breakage. Quite a few people here have said they have used the Apple Pencil for a long time and it hasn’t caused any damage, so I feel encouraged.
 
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