Anyone using Moto's v600

[IJ Reilly]

These handsets don't sync via Bluetooth but by USB cable. I'm guessing that's the critical difference.

The v600 isn't on that list either, so it isn't clear how anyone is copying their contacts to the phone from a Mac.

I was interested in the v600, but I'm surely not going to buy a bluetooth phone that won't sync with my Mac, so it looks like I'm getting the Sony Ericsson t616 next week. My local Cingular store says I can exchange it within 30 days for credit towards the new t637. They're supposed to start taking orders for them on May 24.

 

[D3V1L]

Works fine with everything BUT iSync.. I can transfer mp3s with no trouble. And contacts in my address book. But still no iSync.

So how do you transfer MP3's?
Are you able to do this ONLY via Bluetooth?
I have a non-bluetooth Mac and am trying to get the v600 to mount via it's USB cable but I'm having no luck.
The Mac spins up once the phone's plugged into it, and the v600's lights come on as if something's happening - but nothin!
The phone doesn't show up in Disk Utility either.

Any ideas how I can get MP3's from my Mac to this phone?

I'm running X.3.3

Thanks in advance - kick ass phone otherwise... kick ass

 

[iris4@mac.com]

don't know why but the only way as far as I know to transfer anything to the V600 on a Mac is via Bluetooth. I bought a USB Cable as well but this was a no go. So I bit the bullet and invested in a USB Bluetooth dongle. The only limitation is that you can't transfer games but everything else is fine.
There are a few programs you might be interested in.
One is GSM Remote X with which you can:
Read all available standard phonebooks
Sending long SMS via phone
Export & Backup all standard phonebooks
Editing of the SIM and mobile phonebook is a three click task
Very powerful but easy to use import function
Drag & Drop contacts via vCard standard
(ensures easy sync with Apple's Address Book, Entourage X and Palm Manager 4)
Extensive use of Balloon help
Support for a wide range of different mobile phones
(all Bluetooth or IrDA compatible GSM mobile phones should work)
you can find it here: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10604
and the other one which is freeware BluePhoneMenu:

• Incoming Call Notification Options: visual and audio alerts, dialog boxes, menu bar messages, and now even pause iTunes!
• Recent Call List: including the caller’s name, the time of the call and the device that received the call.
• Current Status of Connected Phones: including signal strength, battery power, silent mode, message alert, off-hook and roaming (not all phones support all features).
• Address Book Integration: looks up caller's name if phone is unable to report it.
• Support For Multiple Phones: distinguishes which of your devices a call was received on.
You'll find here http://www.reelintelligence.com/BluePhoneMenu/

 

[applefan]

That's good info iris4. Do you know if either of those apps will transfer calendar events from iCal or entourage?

 

[foremank]

Using the V600 as a Bluetooth Modem?

With the help of this great thread, I've been able to send/receive files to my v600, and copy over each of my contacts one-by-one using Address Book and then editing them using GSM Remote X. I've had no problems with my contacts or files, but now I'd like to use my V600 as a Bluetooth Modem for when I travel.

I'm attempting to use the Motorola V600 as a Bluetooth Modem for my PowerBook (10.3.4). Unfortunately, I'm not having too much success since I keep getting "Modem Hangup" after it connects and negotiates a connection with Cingular. I had followed John R. Chang's instructions at http://homepage.mac.com/jrc/contrib/tzones/ and used the "Motorola GPRS CID1" script from Ross Barkman at http://www.taniwha.org.uk/. As a Cingular Wireless user with their unlimited MEdiaworks (wireless internet plan), I'm using the Cingular GPRS settings from http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html.

I've toggled the PPP Echo, I'ved toggled the TCP Header compression, and I've tried the various scripts as Barkman suggested, but I always get a hangup.

Has anyone had success using the Motorola V600 as a Bluetooth Modem? Are there others using their PowerBook & V600 with Cingular? Any help would be *greatly* appreciated.

Thanks!

- Ken
foremank[at]starband[dot]net

As an example, my Connection Log under Internet Connect appears as follows (I apologize in advance for the "scroll"):

Sun Jun 20 00:23:30 2004 : Motorola GPRS CID1
Sun Jun 20 00:23:30 2004 : CCLWrite : AT\13
Sun Jun 20 00:23:31 2004 : CCLMatched : OK\13\10
Sun Jun 20 00:23:31 2004 : CCLWrite : AT+CGMI\13
Sun Jun 20 00:23:31 2004 : CCLMatched : Motorola
Sun Jun 20 00:23:31 2004 : CCLWrite : AT&F0&D2&C1E0V1W1S95=47\13
Sun Jun 20 00:23:31 2004 : CCLMatched : OK\13\10
Sun Jun 20 00:23:33 2004 : CCLWrite : AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","ISP.CINGULAR"\13
Sun Jun 20 00:23:33 2004 : CCLMatched : OK\13\10
Sun Jun 20 00:23:34 2004 : Making GPRS connection
Sun Jun 20 00:23:34 2004 : CCLWrite : ATD*99***1#\13
Sun Jun 20 00:23:34 2004 : CCLMatched : CONNECT
Sun Jun 20 00:23:38 2004 : Serial connection established.
Sun Jun 20 00:23:38 2004 : using link 0
Sun Jun 20 00:23:38 2004 : Using interface ppp0
Sun Jun 20 00:23:38 2004 : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Modem
Sun Jun 20 00:23:39 2004 : sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x412b710e> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:39 2004 : rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x412b710e> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:39 2004 : rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x1636d37> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:39 2004 : lcp_reqci: returning CONFACK.
Sun Jun 20 00:23:39 2004 : sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x1636d37> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:39 2004 : sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x412b710e]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:39 2004 : sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="ISPDA@CINGULARGPRS.COM" password=<hidden>]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x1636e18]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : pap_rauthack: ignoring missing msg-length.
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : sent [IPV6CP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr fe80::020d:93ff:fec2:78b4>]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x1 80 57 01 01 00 0e 01 0a 02 0d 93 ff fe c2 78 b4]
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : Hangup (SIGHUP)
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : Modem hangup
Sun Jun 20 00:23:40 2004 : Connection terminated.

 

[Kwyjibo]

I'm looking to get this phone too when t-mobile releases their own version of it. I've been spending some time at HoFo now to learn a bit more about it hopefully they'll release it near the beginning of july and i'll get one in august before I start school.

 

[Type121]

Has anyone had success using the Motorola V600 as a Bluetooth Modem? Are there others using their PowerBook & V600 with Cingular? Any help would be *greatly* appreciated.

I can't add much but to say that I'm having the exact same problem. Any ideas would be very welcome.

 

[pimpslap]

Has anyone had success using the Motorola V600 as a Bluetooth Modem? Are there others using their PowerBook & V600 with Cingular? Any help would be *greatly* appreciated.
foremank[at]starband[dot]net

I was having the same problem with disconnects until I went into Bluetooth Settings and turned on "Support for Non-Conforming Phones". Give that a try and see if it works.

Also, just to clarify on the iSync issue... the lack of support is really Apple's fault at this point and not Motorola's. The v600 uses the SyncML syncing protocol which is a newer, open source protocol. iSync uses an older one based on IR which was adapted for use with bluetooth. Since newer phones are coming out with SyncML protocol built in, then SyncML will probably be integrated into iSync. In fact, Steve Jobs has said that iSync will use (or rather does use, which it clearly does not at this point) SyncML, so support should be added in the future. However, I wouldn't expect it to show up in a iSync update before Tiger comes out.

 

[datafatmunger]

Also getting hang-ups. . .

I'm also getting hang-ups. . .Internet connect claims it is "Authenticating. . .", but Connection log shows. . .

Sat Jul 24 20:02:50 2004 : Motorola GPRS CID1
Sat Jul 24 20:02:53 2004 : Making GPRS connection
Sat Jul 24 20:02:57 2004 : Serial connection established.
Sat Jul 24 20:02:57 2004 : Using interface ppp0
Sat Jul 24 20:02:57 2004 : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Modem
Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

then:

Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : Hangup (SIGHUP)
Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : Modem hangup
Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : Connection terminated.

. . .Cingular with the Barkmen scripts or whatever. . .

Anyone actually tried calling Cingular tech support? I tried to one day. . .but couldn't get any help due to the fact I was calling from my v600 (it's the only phone line I have!).

 

[Champale]

My thoughts

I bought the Motorola v600 three days ago and so far, I love it.

As a long time Nokia user, I was apprehensive about switching but managed to negotiate AT&T down to $119 with a 1 year contract since I'm a long time power customer. (I read a post where someone got it for $100 but maybe he was even more uber than me!)

Anyway, the build is excellent. It's a great size and feel substantial in my hand without being too heavy or bulky.

Mmode works great. I get my yahoo mail perfectly. Even the camera takes better pics than I would have expected.

Some people complain that you can't add multiple numbers to a name. Since my old Nokia was the same, I don't mind. I think Motorola does that because voice dialing is paired up with each unique name. I will say that it's my first phone with voice dialing and I love it! The phone easily recognizes my voice and I've had no problems using that feature.

Call quality is also excellent. In fact it's crystal clear here in Detroit. People often can't tell I'm on a cell.

I haven't tried bluetoothing it to a mac but will post an update when I do.

If you want a smart phone with nifty features, I highly recommend this. I can't comment on isync compatibility, but as a pure cell phone, I love it!

 

[Koodauw]

So I bought one...

And I was wondering how everyone sends MP3's to it? And once they are on there, what do you use them for? Ringotnes? The whole song seems to long for a ringtone. Anyways, if you could let me know how to transfer MP3's, it would be great. Thanks.

Update: I figured it out. Any idea how I can make my own short mp3 files?

 

[AppleManimal]

Got it to work as a modem...

I'm attempting to use the Motorola V600 as a Bluetooth Modem for my PowerBook (10.3.4). Unfortunately, I'm not having too much success since I keep getting "Modem Hangup" after it connects and negotiates a connection with Cingular. I had followed John R. Chang's instructions at http://homepage.mac.com/jrc/contrib/tzones/ and used the "Motorola GPRS CID1" script from Ross Barkman at http://www.taniwha.org.uk/. As a Cingular Wireless user with their unlimited MEdiaworks (wireless internet plan), I'm using the Cingular GPRS settings from http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html.

I've toggled the PPP Echo, I'ved toggled the TCP Header compression, and I've tried the various scripts as Barkman suggested, but I always get a hangup.

Has anyone had success using the Motorola V600 as a Bluetooth Modem? Are there others using their PowerBook & V600 with Cingular? Any help would be *greatly* appreciated.

Thanks!

- Ken

Take a look at my experience and let me know if that helps: http://apple.weblogsinc.com/entry/4192201443365288/ --AppleMan(imal)

 

[jonmichaels]

V600 and the Mac (and Cingular)

The problem you're having with hang-ups is probably because you are trying to use the ISP.CINGULAR APN. This is only for Data Connect plans. You have to use the WAP.CINGULAR APN for the Wireless Internet Express plans (includings the MEdia Works). Ignore the fact that it's labeled as a "pay as you go" connection on Ross' site. That's not correct.

I wrote a big post about getting the V600 to work with a Mac and Cingular Wireless, including setting up email on the phone and wireless internet on your laptop through the phone.

 

[David Stewart]

The v600 uses the SyncML syncing protocol which is a newer, open source protocol.

Sorry to contradict you but it doesn't. I work as a tech journalist and SyncML support on the V600 was a question I put to a Moto rep at a press conference here to launch the phone on the Irish market. He confirmed to me that the V600 does NOT use SyncML.

 

[David Stewart]

I'm also getting hang-ups. . .Internet connect claims it is "Authenticating. . .", but Connection log shows. . .

Sat Jul 24 20:02:50 2004 : Motorola GPRS CID1
Sat Jul 24 20:02:53 2004 : Making GPRS connection
Sat Jul 24 20:02:57 2004 : Serial connection established.
Sat Jul 24 20:02:57 2004 : Using interface ppp0
Sat Jul 24 20:02:57 2004 : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Modem
Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

then:

Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : Hangup (SIGHUP)
Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : Modem hangup
Sat Jul 24 20:03:29 2004 : Connection terminated.

. . .Cingular with the Barkmen scripts or whatever. . .

Anyone actually tried calling Cingular tech support? I tried to one day. . .but couldn't get any help due to the fact I was calling from my v600 (it's the only phone line I have!).

I'm getting exactly the same 'SIGHUP' problem using the v600 on the O2 network in Ireland. The problem is worsened by the fact that it seems completely random. I might get a connection that lasts five minutes or I might get one that lasts five seconds. Interestingly, when I tried using a Nokia 7650 I had the same problem but it seemed to be associated with a loss of signal. In other words the bars indicating signal strength simply vanished. I was not mobile at the time. Whether the bars vanishing was a cause or a result of the 'sighup' I don't know.

Someone else here suggested checking the support for non-conforming phones checkbox in the Bluetooth preferences. I tried that and it seems to work.

 

[efef70]

how do you copy address book contacts 1 by 1?

it is straight forward to copy images, audio, or video using bluetooth file exchange, but how do you copy contacts from address book?

also, my mac (powermac g5) recognizes and pairs with the v600, but doesn't seem to know it's a phone. in bluetooth prefs, it sees it under "all devices" "computer" or "laptops".

any advice?

 

[Kingsnapped]

OnSync is what you need for your address cards. It's free, but a little crippled without registering, but it still does the job. I suggest you make a group for phone contacts in your address book (no email addresses or anything) and just slap that whole thing over via OnSync.

 

[SouthPaW]

So here's my question...

I've read that awesome FAQ about how to config. my V600 to connect to the internet so I can browse with Safari on my 12" PB, but I have one question..

He says all you need is the $20/month MEdia plan, however I'm wondering 2 things: First, with the MEdia plan, does going online STILL count against your daytime/night/weekend minutes or is it not considered the same?
And is it REALLY EVEN NECESSARY to have that MEdia plan, or can I just config. my phone and get my 12" PB online through it and it simply count against my minutes? Any help would be appriciaited, and btw, I'm with Cingular.

 

[SouthPaW]

^^^ Bump for an answer

 

[jonmichaels]

First, with the MEdia plan, does going online STILL count against your daytime/night/weekend minutes or is it not considered the same?

No it's a separate billing. It's part of their Wireless Internet Express service. Billing is based on the amount of data transferred, not the amount of time connected.

And is it REALLY EVEN NECESSARY to have that MEdia plan, or can I just config. my phone and get my 12" PB online through it and it simply count against my minutes? Any help would be appriciaited, and btw, I'm with Cingular.

That's a good question. They still have their older CID service which does dial-in through an actual phone number. That is what they call Wireless Internet. It is/was billed by the amount of time connected. However, I seem to remember that it was like roaming. It didn't count against your normal minutes it was a separate billing at some number of cents per minute.

The post on my website does include a link to a document from Cingular with all the wireless internet details including the CID information. Honestly I don't know if it will work the way you want it to though.

 

[datafatmunger]

The post on my website does include a link to a document from Cingular with all the wireless internet details including the CID information. Honestly I don't know if it will work the way you want it to though.

This actually worked for me! My problem was the APN is actually "WAP.CINGULAR" and not "wap.cingular" as on Barkmen's page.

 

[mira4bai4]

I have been planning to get a V600 but I recenly found out that the contacts will only allow one phone number and one email per entry, is this correct?

 

[aricher]

I have the V600 and have not yet found a way to program more than one email/phone number per entry - it really sucks in this aspect. Even with iSync each person's name/number is poster several times - one for each number - scrolling through them is a pain.

 

[debussy]

V600 Multiple Numbers per name...

I have the V600 and have not yet found a way to program more than one email/phone number per entry - it really sucks in this aspect. Even with iSync each person's name/number is poster several times - one for each number - scrolling through them is a pain.

I just got the phone, and haven't Synced with the computer yet (my accessories come in tomorrow). I do know how to make multiple numbers per entry when entering on the phone (perhaps it will at least get you in the right direction). The V600 doesn't do multiple numbers per name per se, but what it does works better (in my opinion) - it is able to collapse entries that have the same name into a single line on the list... but you have to have the phone book set properly:

1) While viewing the phonebook click on menu > setup
3) Set "Sort By" to "Name"
2) Set "View" to "Primary Contacts"

Now you're all set! Each name only appears once in the main phone list. Also, while the name is highlighted you can press left or right to select which number it will dial when you hit talk (shown via the icon). While in this mode you can highlight an entry, go the menu, and from there select "Set Primary" to set which number is the default in the list.

I thought this was a weird method of multiple entry at first, but quickly realized how powerful it is; doing it this way allows you to assign different ringtones and ringer ids to each phone number for each contact, and not just each contact.

Hope this helps some people! Explore your menues... most of the time the menu button changes depending on what you are currently doing on the phone.

 

[mogema]

You know, with Apple and Moto pairing up for this "iTunes phone", you would expect to see some kind of effort from Moto for compatibility between their existing phones and the MacOS in general come very soon (they're past due in my opinion).

Perhaps when Tiger is released iSync will be updated to work with Moto's crippleware'd Bluetooth support?