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I had an HTC phone with touchflo.... it's garbage. Plus, HTC phones are made with the worst LCD's i'm telling you. They're horrible (well, compared to the iphone anyway). Response on the screen is garbage, and battery life on those things is always worse than even the iphone.

if you used the diamond i agree. it sucks. but the touch pro is MUCH improved. its a WAY better phone than the diamond.
 
I played around with a co-worker's newly acquired Mogul today, and it was a disaster. Texting was a pain, Explorer seemed foreign to me and it was just generally not a pleasant experience.

I am almost ready to throw my iPhone against a wall due to the excessive Safari crashes, but after playing with the Mogul I came away with a greater appreciation for the artistry that is the iPhone:D

Jude
 
some people say the tmobile g1 is better. Mainly because of the open platform micro sd up to 16 gigs and the full physical keyboard
 
some people say the tmobile g1 is better. Mainly because of the open platform micro sd up to 16 gigs and the full physical keyboard

Im not really sure how anyones gonna fall in love with that keyboard with that massive chin next to it. You have to reach over it or hold the phone awkwardly to get around it.
 
I have used the HTC in past, also used E90 but I think iPhone 3G is the one which I am loving out of them so far..
 
Have you seen the Blackberry Storm?

We are iPhone fans all the way. My husband has a Blackberry from work and a 1st Gen iPhone, I have the 3G iPhone. Sometimes his Blackberry works faster than my 3G, but it's screen is so hard to read and the buttons are so small for his big fingers. So now there is a touch screen model that looks like the iPhone, but the keypad comes up in a landscape profile. So the keypad is even larger than the iPhone. Looks very interesting. Anyone have one yet?
 
We are iPhone fans all the way. My husband has a Blackberry from work and a 1st Gen iPhone, I have the 3G iPhone. Sometimes his Blackberry works faster than my 3G, but it's screen is so hard to read and the buttons are so small for his big fingers. So now there is a touch screen model that looks like the iPhone, but the keypad comes up in a landscape profile. So the keypad is even larger than the iPhone. Looks very interesting. Anyone have one yet?

I like the Blackberry's. Sure the iPhone does more things but the BB Curve now has the updated 4.5 software and it is pretty cool now( havent even seen the Bold yet and would probably prefer the Storm). Just not as many apps to use with it. I like the keyboard on that better than the iPhone keyboard. Iphones keyboard keys are too small and too sensitive. I just like having buttons better i guess.

I just sold my BB Pearl on ebay for $165 and liked it too , ...just a bit too small. Dont get me wrong, i love my iPhone too and i only have a first gen but i have to wonder.....of all the things they have for the iPhone, why on earth would they NOT have voice dialing?
 
....of all the things they have for the iPhone, why on earth would they NOT have voice dialing?

Really!! Why don't they?? Saw the Storm on TV and their buttonless, touch screen, landscape facing keyboard looks huge. Very interesting.
 
Anything out there better than the iphone?

No. :D

Really!! Why don't they?? Saw the Storm on TV and their buttonless, touch screen, landscape facing keyboard looks huge. Very interesting.

The Storm aint buttonless, there are four buttons below the screen.
 
1) HTC has confirmed that the Touch HD will not be available to the US market. iPhone owners can breath a sigh of relief.

http://gizmodo.com/5059900/htc-touch-hd-pretty-much-never-coming-to-the-us

2) I can't see the iPhone becoming anymore cheaper than it already is. Also, Apple products usually don't fall in price, the specs just improve while price remains constant.


Sigh of relief? Why would iPhone owners be concerned about it being released in the US? Does it change the functionality of your phone or are you scared your phone won't be held in as high of regard?

How irrational is it to be relieved about your choices being limited?
 
don't flame me for saying so, but WM does far more than iPhone is capable of. It's also infinitely more customizable via registry edits and many of the best apps and hacks are simply given free despite the time developers spend on them.

Treo Pro and 800 are way more powerful and do 10x the numbers of things an iPhone does. They don't have the pretty user interface, but with a touch screen, they work just as well, and in many cases better. They are also much more stable, and you can use them on Verizon where you get highspeed and service all over the country. HTC makes some great WM phones as well.

The only thing that keeps me on iPhone is MM which allows my wife and I to have synced calendars, contacts, etc. The only thing the iPhone does way better than WM, imho, is media. Everything else is superior on WM.

I have owned many Treos, and other WM phones and they might do a little more but they are way unstable and slow. The touchscreen sucks (doesn't respond near as good as the iphone). I don't know what you are smoking but they are far from being more stable. They are very unstable and require a reboot a few times a week.

Email, WEB, Exchange PUSH abilities is Superior on the iphone over the WM. Emails look like emails, Web looks like web pages and you can open more web pages on the iphone. Push works great and all calendars work properly and timezone issues do not exist like they do on the WM phones which require a patch that doesn't work sometimes.
 
The WM phones do not do things well. Why are they so low rated vs the iphone or even the G1 now? Because they are behind in technology! Microsoft needs to revamp WM and come out with something better. The iphone syncs very good over the air with Exchange and outlook. It actually WORKS BETTER. I have had no crashes with my iphone since I have had it. Every WM phone I had, I had crashes, bugs, I couldn't stand them.

It is obvious you are here for one reason. To spew your fanboiness about the WM phones when they are worthless junk.

Very poorly? I couldn't disagree more. It's not as elegant as iPhone, but it does many things very well and in a vastly more powerful and customizable way, even at the most basic level, like calendars, email and phone usage. Nearly every feature ppl complain that the iPhone is missing is available and works for WM.


I had difficulty for the first few months with active sync, but then it worked perfectly. It was capable of syncing much more info than apple does. Other than Outlook? iPhone doesn't even do outlook or entourage syncing well, let alone lotus. With regard to documents, of course it's cumbersome to do on a small phone, but the point is that the capability is there if and when you need it. Plus being able to make a small edit and send a document back was huge.


I ran many solid programs, had lots of registry edits, and I had more crashes with iPhone in two months than I did with two plus years of WM usage.


I never had a complete failure of either my treo 700w or wx in two plus years.


The only thing I had similar to that in WM was the daylight savings bug, which was a monster of a problem.


I was also hesitant about iPhone initially, and it does keep things in sync across multiple platforms more consistently than active sync was capable of doing.
 
Sigh of relief? Why would iPhone owners be concerned about it being released in the US? Does it change the functionality of your phone or are you scared your phone won't be held in as high of regard?

How irrational is it to be relieved about your choices being limited?

I wrote that before getting my iPhone. The touch hd running android will likely be a better phone. Sigh of relief was written as a joke making fun of all the people who bought iPhones needing the latest and greatest.
 
I wrote that before getting my iPhone. The touch hd running android will likely be a better phone. Sigh of relief was written as a joke making fun of all the people who bought iPhones needing the latest and greatest.


haha ok cool. I sometimes use humor and it isn't recognised myself. Sorry about that.


I just decided to get a HTC Touch Hd for use when I am overseas as my 3g iPhone is locked. Does anybody know if HTC play nice with Macs in general?
 
I wrote that before getting my iPhone. The touch hd running android will likely be a better phone. Sigh of relief was written as a joke making fun of all the people who bought iPhones needing the latest and greatest.


haha ok cool. I sometimes use humor and it isn't recognised as such either. Sorry about that.


I just decided to get a HTC Touch Hd for use when I am overseas as my 3g iPhone is locked. Does anybody know if HTC play nice with Macs in general?

So I pulled the trigger on the HTC touch HD. Maybe I will give some of my impressions about it vs. the iPhone when I get my order. Although until I get it out in the real world where I am going I won't be able to say if it fits my needs or not. I am just praying to god it has good signal strength as I will be in a somehwat remote area.
 
Re: the thread title, if I was offered any device to swap my iPhone for, I'd have to decline the offer, even taking the well documented flaws/omissions into account. That includes the HD, Storm, Bold, G1, Omnia, Pro, whatever. I've looked at so many detailed vids of all of those, and none has yet to 'wow' me.
 
You know it is not how many features a phone has it is how you use the features. After the success of the iPod you would think people would realise that more features does not equal a better product. How many phones have came out that claim to be iPhone killers, or the press or bloggers claim? I lose track. Every one fails.

A few things to note. iPhone only has a 2MP camera, yet the iPhone is the most popular camera phone on Flickr http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_most_popular_cameraphone_on_flickr. Also, I know from experience I never browsed the internet or checked my emails on other phones, not because I couldn't but because it was too awkward and it was expensive because there were not many unlimited data tariffs around, especially here in the UK. Whereas most phones I would use just text and calls now I must use 80-90% of all the features on my iPhone. It is all well and good having all these features, but if they are so hard to use because of a shody interface then I won't bother. Also, I am glad they made it stable first time out, they could have went the Nokia route like the N95 or N96 with everything but the kitchen sink, but they had and continue to have problems with crashing and appalling battery life. Android looks promising but I can see it running into some huge issues when it starts going on more and more devices and the open store gets more and more crap in it. Leo Laporte already said the battery life was terrible, I can only see that getting worse with more and more apps.

The phone I am most looking forward to is the Blackberry Storm. If there is one company that "gets it", it is RIM. I hope the Storm does well and challenges the iPhone as the ultimate touch screen iPhone. It would make Apple pick up their game again.
 
Re: the thread title, if I was offered any device to swap my iPhone for, I'd have to decline the offer, even taking the well documented flaws/omissions into account. That includes the HD, Storm, Bold, G1, Omnia, Pro, whatever. I've looked at so many detailed vids of all of those, and none has yet to 'wow' me.

I can't say the phone wowed me either. After Jobs gave the first keynote for the iPhone I would say that nothing has wowed me since. If this phone is even near the iPhone in a lot of things and is sold unlocked, contract free it gives us other options though which is a good thing.

It could very well suck. It did seem to be the nicest out of the ones I saw reviewed though. The storm had no wifi so that was a dealbreaker. I looked at the Omnia in person and I just didn't like it. I am only buying it as I will be in SE. Asia for 6 months and I am not going to pay roaming charges.

The last phone I had in this particular location was a first gen iPhone and the reception was bad. So i figured why buy another unlocked iPhone in Bangkok when the first didn't work out? I also have a 3G iPhone now so that should solve any shortcomings of the PMP features of the HTC.

I love the iPhone but the contracts are designed for people that live in one place and never go on a lengthy airplane trip of any kind ever. Watch the 3G get unlocked in the next couple weeks. LOL At that point the joke is on me but from what I have seen of its performance reception wise it still wouldn't matter where I am going.
 
Yes the Storm having no Wi-Fi is a big bummer for me as well. All well and good if you live in a 3G area, but I live out in the sticks. Surely the networks would want to ease the strain on their networks and users increase battery life by using Wi-Fi wherever possible, which is still faster and more reliable than 3G.
 
I would say the G1 is up there. I don't like moving parts on my phones (other than buttons) which is why I'm not biting. Still, Android is a nice contender and if someone wanted to swap for my iphone + cash I'd have to take it.
 
In the same category of iPhone you can also find these phones:
1. HTC Touch HD
2. Samsung i900 (Omnia, the most complete phone out there now)
3. Nokia N96
4. Blackberry 9500 (Storm, not going to kill the iPhone but promising)

iPhone however, lags in ACTUAL hardware functionality compared to most. But makes up BIG for 3rd party driven APPLICATION development and distribution.
 
So here is an interesting observation..... I just unboxed my HD and it shows 4 bars of 3G in my house. My iPhone rarely gets one bar even and as soon as you try to connect it drops down to GPRS as Edge isn't in this area.

I need to test it a bit more but the iPhone reception still is terrible. I am happy to see this on one hand because part of the reason I bought the HD is because I am going to a remote area and my last iPhone didn't get a signal there though every other phone could.

I am on the other hand sad to see it because it confirms what I suspected... that the iPhone cell radio is sub par and I don't think it is anything to do with firmware.

It isn't like the signal is low on my HTC either it has all bars with 3G sometimes it goes down to 3 bars but doesn't seem to change to GPRS so far.

I forgot to add that my roommate also has an iPhone bought at the same time as I purchased mine and the same result for signal. This isn't a case of one phone being defective.

Apple really needs to wake up and put a good radio in their phones.
 
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