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Billy Boo Bob said:
Did I once hear correctly that Aperture has some pretty hefty hardware requirements to run effectively?

Do you think Aperture will run worth a hoot on a Mini, or just look too bloated?

According to this site: http://www.final-cut-pro.de/stage/_inhalte/berichte/019_fcp_ub_test.shtml?navid=1
FCP 5.1 runs much faster on Intel Macs. Note: the site's in German but even if you don't read German, the graphs speak for themselves. Additional testing confirmed that FCP runs a good 2x faster on a MacBook Pro than on a G5 2x2GHz machine. Even faster on an Intel iMac. As the Mac Mini is essentially notebook technology I suspect it to perfrom on par with the MacBook Pro.
Make sure you read the ensuing discussion on that site for additional testing. (You'll figure out the numbers). So, I think there's a good chance Aperture too will perform pretty good on IntelMacs.
 
Peace said:
Apple has already changed the newsfeed removing any reference to price.;)

Tell me Apple doesn't peek in here.

Unfortunately, the big man himself has, and I don't think I can say he is too happy about it either. ;)

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Anywhoo, I say teh price cut puts Aperture into teh consumer's range. :)
 
drbrog said:
Apple penalizes early adopters (e.g., beta testers) of their software by doing this kind of thing. I hope purchasers of the first version will get a free upgrade.
They are still listing Aperature 1.0 on the website for $499.
Looks like the RSS 'announcement' was premature/wrong wrt pricing. According to the Apple - Aperture - Aperture 1.1 Update page at http://www.apple.com/aperture/update.html
Developed in consultation with pro photographers, Aperture 1.1 — scheduled for release in April — will be available for $499. Current owners of Aperture 1.0 can upgrade to Aperture 1.1 via Software Update. In addition to enhanced compatibility, Aperture 1.1 also provides a variety of significant performance and feature enhancements.
This seems to suggest that the upgrade will be free.
 
Jeez

you should always think multiple times over if you actually need the software you purchase from any company. Good luck with your rebate that you will most certainly not get and get employee's you ask annoyed and yourself.
 
I genuinely feel sorry for those suckers who paid $499 for this POS package.

IMO it is worth more of $29.95 than $299 :rolleyes:
 
I would use Aperture if it had the ability to reference files from their original location rather than using precious HD space by copying pictures to it's own library. I hope 1.1 has this option, until this is done lightbox is performing admirably for me and I am growing to like this software more each passing day.
 
poolin1243 said:
for myself, i purchased 3 copies of aperture to use in various locations. At 499 each, thats a hefty sum. To have the price go down 200.00 after just one release...it is a real kick in the pants. I think all those who have purchased it and incorperated it into their workflows already, will be quite angered by this news.

Would you be happy if they didn't drop the price? Why? How are you harmed if they drop the price?
 
Sorry for all the guys that went for the whole 499 shebang, but If they drop the price I am in. If not, well my Lightroom Beta does the job too, though often with grinding teeth.
 
mambodancer said:
Here's a screen shot I took of the web page just now. It claims aperature 1.1 is a universal binary that will be available sometime in April. Price is still $499, the upgrade is free through software update.

yeah, it still says that. what you're looking at is an announcement of the upcoming update.

Billy Boo Bob said:
Did I once hear correctly that Aperture has some pretty hefty hardware requirements to run effectively? My brother, a died-in-the-wool Windows user (and heavy duty photographer) is starting to turn some attention towards the Intel Macs now that Boot Camp and the VT options are making the rounds. But, he's not going to go any further than a Mini to begin with. I think he would fall in love with this program, though.

Do you think Aperture will run worth a hoot on a Mini, or just look too bloated? I understand LightBox has much lighter hardware requirements to run smoothly. Heck, even if that's so, he might be inclined to get a Mini just to run that (since it's going to be Mac only at first). Then he'll *have* to work with OS X a bit and learn how much nicer it is. :D

I've run it on my Power Mac G5 2x1.8 with 512 MB RAM, it's a bit sluggish but quite useable. since the 512 is below the system requirements you have to mess with a plist inside the app package because Apple doesn't want people running their programs and seeing them act slowly, but it presents no problem for me with my library of 3-4mp jpegs. RAW might be different since I haven't tried it.

since benchmarks I've seen put the Core Duo Mini neck in neck with the 2x1.8 G5, you'll probably be able to run it, though you may need to hack the plist like I did. the integrated graphics on the Mini might prevent a challenge though... to be safe, maybe try the 17" iMac instead. unless somebody has a Duo Mini and is able to give Aperture a try on it?
 
Peace said:
Apple has already changed the newsfeed removing any reference to price.;)

Tell me Apple doesn't peek in here.

You're new here. Don't you know Steve Jobs is omnipresent?
 
I have a core duo mini. I copied over my aperture app and it runs in rosetta. Its not as fast as my G5 was, but it runs. I can't wait for the 1.1 update to get native speeds.
 
This is great...get the update out now, I want it hehe...;)

More speed and features :D
 
bluebomberman said:
Exactly. Why do people feel the need to condone Apple's use of early adopters as unwilling guinea pigs? "Oh, that's common economic practice." No, that's standard "ripping the customer off."

Well, please define what you mean by ripping customer off.
for me, any company that is operating at MR (marginal revenue) = MC (marginal cost) instead of Price = MC would be, and that just means a whole lot, most most, of the companies are ripping off customers. Then apple is doing it more than some of its competitors. but who is to say how much rip-off is reasonable?

it is like, "hey, why did you steal 10 apples from the store?! you are so bad, because the other people usuall only steal 5."

in non-perfectly-competitive market, one can't expect non-rip-off pricing -- it is just not compatible with the market structure. (well, except practice like predatory pricing, but you will pay back later in the future.)

so if you do not think it is worth the price, then do not buy it. if no one buys it, the price is gonna come down like now. you would be helping bringing down price for the rest ~ -- But you did =)
 
I'm assuming this is new, because I didn't notice it when I checked the Aperture page before. there's now a big green circle that says that the Aperture update is shipping soon, though no date is given and the linked to page still says the same, including the $499 price tag.

also, compare the attached pics. seems that Apple is violating its own design guidelines. again.

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Malfoy said:
OOO Things always get a litle heated when people start busting out the economics...

:rolleyes: it ain't stopping any time soon...
 

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BlueRevolution said:
also, compare the attached pics. seems that Apple is violating its own design guidelines. again.
Um... the guidelines say not to use their logos in stars and circles (etc). The text "Version 1.1 Shipping Soon" isn't a logo.
 
poolin1243 said:
for the professionals out there like myself

this is a blessing, and a total outrage.

great that its going universal for those who use intels.

but..


for myself, i purchased 3 copies of aperture to use in various locations. At 499 each, thats a hefty sum. To have the price go down 200.00 after just one release...it is a real kick in the pants. I think all those who have purchased it and incorperated it into their workflows already, will be quite angered by this news.
Its part and parcel of buying apple stuff. You paid for it because you wanted, you got what you wanted and you paid the 499 price and you were willing to do so. You will live. Imagine those who bought ppc macs only to have intel macs come out a few days later.
 
i bought aperture at the previous price.

and it has been more than worth it.


why complain about getting kicked in the teeth because apple drops the price for aperture? do you complain when the car you bought from the dealer drops $2000? do you complain when the washing machine drops in price?

it happens. it's called business.
 
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