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App Extensions, Third-Party Touch ID Access Demoed With iOS 8 1Password Beta
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Temperature Sensor
Really wish they would add a temperature sensor into the touch ID, at least to prevent iPhone robberies & dismemberment - has to be a warm blooded fingerprint scan.
Pulse detector would be nice too...
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Currently in the lose of a spouse, you may not know his passcode, but if you can get the mortician to save a digit - you can still get into the account.
Really wish they would add a temperature sensor into the touch ID, at least to prevent iPhone robberies & dismemberment - has to be a warm blooded fingerprint scan.
Pulse detector would be nice too...
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Currently in the lose of a spouse, you may not know his passcode, but if you can get the mortician to save a digit - you can still get into the account.
From what I remember from the WWDC Keynote, the way Touch ID works for 3rd party Apps, is it basically sends what amounts to a yes or no authentication to the app.
From what I read in the forums, this is till a work in progress and there could be several options.
Prior to Touch ID, you had a couple of options as well.
- Use you master password for everything
- Lock on exit (Where the vault locks each time you leave the app or after 10 min inside the app.
- Use a 4 digit pin code to quickly access your data. This stores your master password in the iOS Keychain.
Your vault, no matter what, is created and encrypted using the master password. So, think of Touch ID being sort of like the PIN code feature:
1) You could choose to have your master password stored in the iOS keychain and then Touch ID will in essence, send the unlock code to 1Password, which will then auto unlock using the stored master password in the iOS keychain.
2) You can turn off the iOS keychain feature but then will have to unlock the vault using the master password. Then the Touch ID can then be used to access. This could then be set to require the master password once per reboot. Or set to require you to unlock the vault with the master password once per app session.
There could be other options as well. This is in beta and they are still testing and exploring various ways to use TouchID. Some people have even commented that hey would like Dual authentication. For example, using TouchID along with a pin code each time.
Can confirm. I replied to this a bit back on the last page (or two pages back). If you want a more official source for 1Password specifically anyway.
This is all still subject to change so if you have thoughts on this type of thing you should certainly get in touch.
I'm bummed I can't find a thumbs up emoji for this
This is just the beginning.. keep your eyes peeled for more incredible news as we get closer to release. Our goal is to change the way you use 1Password on iOS with this update!
I've used eWallet for years (since 2003 when I got my first smartphone) but I'm not sure the developers will include this functionality and I'm very intrigued since I expect I'll get a new iPad with touchID this fall.
So I have a question I'm sure someone who uses 1Password can answer. (I did look at their website and couldn't find my answer). What level of encryption does 1Password use? I know my current app uses 256-bit. Anyone know?
It looks like exporting and importing my data would be a real pain (if it's even possible) but maybe worth it. Really glad Apple is finally opening up a bit to allow this type of integration. First time I've been this excited about an iOS update.
So I have a question I'm sure someone who uses 1Password can answer. (I did look at their website and couldn't find my answer). What level of encryption does 1Password use? I know my current app uses 256-bit. Anyone know?
It looks like exporting and importing my data would be a real pain (if it's even possible) but maybe worth it. Really glad Apple is finally opening up a bit to allow this type of integration. First time I've been this excited about an iOS update.
Hi Donna
We're happy to welcome you to the 1Password side of the pond if you want to come on over.
We use 256-bit encryption in version 4 for locally stored data. We use the same when syncing to iCloud. Currently when syncing via Dropbox we use 128-bit but this will eventually move to the same format as iCloud. It's just a matter of getting all applications capable of reading the new format and then we can change the default. I'm not sure when this will happen but I hope it's sooner rather than later because there are much bigger improvements with regard to syncing performance with the new format which I am more excited about
Now, before you start looking at me like I'm crazy I'd love to explain something that not many realize but 128-bit encryption is incredibly secure. The reasons for why we switched are linked below in a blog post written by our security expert on the topic:
http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/03/09/guess-why-were-moving-to-256-bit-aes-keys/
I'm happy to answer any questions you might have as well. If you'd like a more one on one discussion feel free to PM me, or hit the Contact Us link in my signature and email in. Just mention my name and I'll get you any answers you need.
Since the moment TouchID was launched we were promised legions of criminals and muggers with cigar choppers to chop off your fingers. Seriously, where are they?Really wish they would add a temperature sensor into the touch ID, at least to prevent iPhone robberies & dismemberment - has to be a warm blooded fingerprint scan.
Pulse detector would be nice too...
Besides it's the activation lock that any petty thief would be concerned about. Even if someone was after your email or iCloud Keychain, CeeLo Green Ringtone, or whatever -- why worry about Touch ID? I mean, if they're going to bother to rob you of your phone because you have some top secret information on it. They're in the perfect position to just ask you for the phone password and your Apple ID password.
If they're being covert about stealing your phone James Bond 007 style -- they already have your password(s).
Hi Donna
We're happy to welcome you to the 1Password side of the pond if you want to come on over.
We use 256-bit encryption in version 4 for locally stored data. We use the same when syncing to iCloud. Currently when syncing via Dropbox we use 128-bit but this will eventually move to the same format as iCloud. It's just a matter of getting all applications capable of reading the new format and then we can change the default. I'm not sure when this will happen but I hope it's sooner rather than later because there are much bigger improvements with regard to syncing performance with the new format which I am more excited about
Now, before you start looking at me like I'm crazy I'd love to explain something that not many realize but 128-bit encryption is incredibly secure. The reasons for why we switched are linked below in a blog post written by our security expert on the topic:
http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/03/09/guess-why-were-moving-to-256-bit-aes-keys/
I'm happy to answer any questions you might have as well. If you'd like a more one on one discussion feel free to PM me, or hit the Contact Us link in my signature and email in. Just mention my name and I'll get you any answers you need.
Thanks for the quick reply! I'm aware that 128-bit is very secure but glad to hear you'll be moving up soon. Personally, even with encryption I tend to keep my 'stuff' locally. I'm a bit old school (and old too ...) and don't particularly like using someone else's 'cloud'. Just a matter of choice.
Once iOS 8 is out I'll check further. The data migration will probably be a huge issue. I don't think eWallet supports delimited text. Retyping all that info will take a really, really long time. But perhaps worth it. Plus I'm sure I need to clean it up and dump a bunch of old passwords etc.
This is very exciting. I worked in software development for almost 30 years. Kind of makes me miss the excitement of working on a new project. (long hours, stubborn users, stubborn devs, impossible deadlines, impossible requirements, meetings, meetings, meetings - I was a project manager for most of the time. Ok, maybe I don't miss it too much). If I wanted to get a dev account and try the beta iOS 8 I would love to be a beta tester. Lots of experience....but retirement and my grandkids are just too much fun these days.
I wish you good luck and have fun!
You're very welcome
We offer wifi sync as well as the various cloud syncing solutions. This keeps your data 100% local so if you're cloud adverse you can use that option.
I am not familiar with eWallet but if you want to discuss import options I can certainly walk you through those. Off hand we support:
- CSV
- SplashID
- LastPass
- 1Password Interchange File (1PIF)
There's also a user on our forums who has written some scripts to convert from other solutions to something we can read. I can link that to you if you want it, I'd rather do it privately since it's not really an officially supported set of scripts and I'd like to avoid publicly posting it outside of our own forums for that reason.
The other option is to simply use the 1Password Extension on a Mac or PC. In doing this you goto a site and if eWallet fills the data in we can save it prior to you submitting the login. This means you do have some manual effort but no typing/copy/pasting to do.
Let me know if I can do anything to help!
You're very welcome
We offer wifi sync as well as the various cloud syncing solutions. This keeps your data 100% local so if you're cloud adverse you can use that option.
I am not familiar with eWallet but if you want to discuss import options I can certainly walk you through those. Off hand we support:
- CSV
- SplashID
- LastPass
- 1Password Interchange File (1PIF)
There's also a user on our forums who has written some scripts to convert from other solutions to something we can read. I can link that to you if you want it, I'd rather do it privately since it's not really an officially supported set of scripts and I'd like to avoid publicly posting it outside of our own forums for that reason.
The other option is to simply use the 1Password Extension on a Mac or PC. In doing this you goto a site and if eWallet fills the data in we can save it prior to you submitting the login. This means you do have some manual effort but no typing/copy/pasting to do.
Let me know if I can do anything to help!
Interesting. I'll check further and PM you if I have any questions. Thanks again.
Well, I do. The main reason I don't use Chrome is because it doesn't use my keychain for some reason.
Sounds like a great opportunity to try 1Password
We support Chrome on Mac and Windows. If you're looking to use Chrome, but can't because Keychain doesn't support it, give 1Password a shot. There's a free trial version on our website here: http://www.agilebits.com/downloads
You're welcome to PM me your questions as well if you run into any on the trial. I'll be happy to help get you up and running!
Touch ID will probably be the basis now Apple opened this up for everything from the bathroom, to to the toilet..
Every man, and his dog will want this, and try and abuse it too.
(sneaky developers)
Can't wait for Laspass to get theirs done... Its in the works.
Every man, and his dog will want this, and try and abuse it too.
(sneaky developers)
Can't wait for Laspass to get theirs done... Its in the works.
I will 100% agree with you regarding web log-ins only if you are entirely Mac based that supports iCloud.
But lets take a step back - what if you stroll across your PC and need to login? What if you are on another Mac and don't want to add your iCloud or 1Password app? You can still use your iPhone to open 1Password and enter it in on the Mac.
That's where 1Password trumps. I use both. So when I make a password change, I update both. That way, I always have access to my password.
You just need to be honest with yourself to understand that.
I have 1Password on my iPhone, iPad and Mac. Really looking forward to this update. Agilebits have excellent support too. On the couple of occasions Ive emailed them for support, they have replied very quickly and with a clear and correct answer.