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I too would really like to know the problem with the data sharing? Anyone here in the "real" know as to why, rather than just paranoid wokers.

As someone said before if it is just for Adverts I'm all for it. I'd rather see adverts I am interested in.

Are there other nefarious reasons I should be aware of? Examples? o_O
You work for Facebook? Right?
 
Things like this make me wish I was an Apple App Developer or at least had that skill.

I would make an app that would top the charts on the App Store to get me noticed and beat out Instagram. When users click what other applications I have done, they will see various games and utilities that are normal apps.
 
I cannot find which date they collected this data.

Because as of now Facebook says its collecting 12/14 sets of data for 3rd parties.

So this research is out of data already.

I wonder if apple could enforce changes to these labels to be explicit in update notes, or add a version history to the labels.
 
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I cannot find which date they collected this data.

Because as of now Facebook says its collecting 12/14 sets of data for 3rd parties.

So this research is out of data already.

I wonder if apple could enforce changes to these labels to be explicit in update notes, or add a version history to the labels.
That is a very good idea. You should make an official suggestion to Apple.
 
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DuoLingo is the only surprise on this list for me. All the more reason to have a pi-hole setup and properly configured. I also have AdGuard pro for when I’m not on my local network. It’s not 100% effective but it’ll block a fair bit.

I know people will say you’re getting xyz for free for the data but I think the ROI for the companies is far higher than the return I get for the free app. I would, and have when I get a choice, prefer to pay for a completely ad free and tracking free experience.

It is extra annoying to me to pay to remove ads in the app but they continue to track and resell data.
 
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That is a very good idea. You should make an official suggestion to Apple.
I went to apple / feedback and strangely there isn’t a topic for iOS or App Store, so short or emailing Tim I don’t see how I could suggest this
 
Does "browsing history" mean browsing within that app or browsing history of your chosen Internet browser?
Same question for "search history" is that only search history within that app?

Typically, it's just history within that app. An app shouldn't have access to browsing or search history done in other apps.

Of course, it's theoretically possible for some information to inadvertently leak across those boundaries. For example, if caches are shared, it might be possible to do some sort of analysis on timing metrics that could somehow reveal whether some site was visited in another browser; whether or not that is actually possible, much less feasible, is another question. I don't know the answer.

But realistically, it's just the history of activity within that app.


Whos' ready to delete Instagram LOL

79% of data! ouch...

People start making fake profile.

Those numbers are meaningless gibberish. Instagram does not "share 79% of your data". Instagram collects 79% of the possible types of data. In other words, there are eleven little icons in that row out of a possible fourteen. That's all this means.

That does not mean that Instagram shares that data at all, just that it collects it. The headline "The Apps sharing your data with third parties" is pure fiction, unless by "sharing", you mean in some massively aggregated sense of the word, where they tell third parties that "15% of our users like pictures of cats."

And Instagram does not even have access to 79% of your data, much less share it. Apps can, for the most part, access only what you do within the app, not what you do in other apps.

I was really disappointed in this story. I was hoping for a detailed analysis of the apps at the top of that list, talking about why they collect the things that they do, how they use that information, etc.

Then again, I was really disappointed with the labels in general. At least on the surface, they seem very nearly useless to me, because they make no distinction between whether the information is collected on-device or on servers somewhere, they make no distinction about whether the data is shared with third parties, etc. So anything approaching a usable web browser, no matter how privacy-focused, ends up saying that they collect the user's history. IMO, that completely defeats the purpose of having labels in the first place. But I digress.
 
I love the focus on this, but I can't quite make heads or tails of what all this means. If I use Instagram, what are they getting from me I don't know about? Browsing history and search history? Surely that is relative to that app and not data gathered from Safari or other apps - right? Location? Maybe I've turned off location access for that app - does that do anything?
 
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I see the ITV Hub is high up in the list.

I don’t subscribe myself as I seldom use it so can’t justify the £4.99/mo. subscription fee but wonder if they still collect that amount of data as most of the programs available won’t feature adverts*.

*Some programs still have adverts due to licensing and rights reasons eg American Guy.
 
I see the ITV Hub is high up in the list.

I don’t subscribe myself as I seldom use it so can’t justify the £4.99/mo. subscription fee but wonder if they still collect that amount of data as most of the programs available won’t feature adverts*.

*Some programs still have adverts due to licensing and rights reasons eg American Guy.
 
well in the scumbags' defense, if all their data collection only goes towards targeted advertising — BFD. So the ads you never click on or pay attention to anyway are now changed to product ads you'll still never click on or pay for — what's all the brouhaha?
Are more relevant ads that evil?

Now if they're using personal data for more nefarious purposes — then there's a BIG problem that should be made illegal with laws
If as you posit - "it's no BFD" and this is -only- resulting in more "relevant ads"... Then why is Facebook throwing a tantrum? I mean, it's no big deal. Right? Of course, not.

It's not that Apple is saying "No tracking. Period." Apple isn't even saying "No tracking users outside of your App." Further still, even ... Apple *ISN'T* saying, "If you make or own multiple apps, user tracking has to be silo'd in and only for those app entirely invidiually." (i.e. No tracking users across and between the apps that you yourself make or own.)

What Apple is saying is, "Permission must be explicitly asked for and explicitly granted - If you're going to personally identify users, correlate and collect data, and track them outside of the apps you make."

(e.g. if 'you' are Facebook and I am me, then, you have to ask me first if it's ok that you will continue to track my activity, searches, purchases, etc in and on other websites, mobile apps, or services. In otherwords, collecting, correlating, selling, or monitizing my Ebay, Amazon.com, YouTube, etc activity into your Facebook database or "shadow" profile on me.)

Bottom line, here is the kicker: Facebook can continue to absolutely everthing that they already do. They just have to ASK - to track you outside of their apps.

So everything that Facebook does first party though Facebook, Messanger, Instagram, whatsapp, etc Apple's "tracking transparency" does nothing to. Because it's all first party and all apps that Facebook owns. Yet, when Apple establishes a modicom, a miminum, and mandates that outside of apps you own or control - that you just ASK - Facebook book throws a hissy fit.

These are good videos from Rene Ritchie


 
What is the purpose of Apple's sandbox or walled garden if the company has been letting these apps grab so much data for so many years? Why hasn't Apple blocked this behavior in the first place?
 
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Am I the only one who never signed-up for Instagram...I found that boring from day 1 When someone showed it to me.
 
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Wait – why does Duolingo need all that?! I checked, and it looks like they're not accessing location data. But then the privacy label says that they are. Lame.
 
Pointless study. These app labels are based on developer self-disclosure, and most are flat out lying.

For example, eBay does share financial info with third-parties (such as PayPal), otherwise it would be impossible to pay for a specific transaction.
This is not accurate. For the purpose of the privacy disclosure, Apple defines "Financial Info" as (1) payment information such as credit card numbers, (2) credit info such as credit scores, and (3) other financial information such as salary and income. The Ebay app doesn't share anything of the sort with Paypal. The purchase price by itself is not "Financial Info".
 
What are we supposed to do? If you use those apps you have to accept the T&C’s. Apple can’t stop this. This needs to be sorted out by government legislation to make the collection of user data illegal.
 
Ugh. I don't use the word 'hate' very often or very easily but boy do I HATE Facebook Inc. from the bottom of my heart.

So glad I deleted Facebook in 2015 and Instagram when Facebook took the app over. It's just that stupid Whatsapp I'm stuck with!
Just delete Whatsapp, I am about to do it (again), last time I deleted WhatApps it created a storm of comments from family/friends, I also have a faraway girl(friend) so I reinstalled it, now though I have other options and I really can't care less if friends/family are misbehaving again.
As soon as WhatApp won't work without consenting to their rules it's over, this time I won't reinstall.
 
Just delete Whatsapp, I am about to do it (again), last time I deleted WhatApps it created a storm of comments from family/friends, I also have a faraway girl(friend) so I reinstalled it, now though I have other options and I really can't care less if friends/family are misbehaving again.
As soon as WhatApp won't work without consenting to their rules it's over, this time I won't reinstall.
I will try to let people switch to Signal. The problem is: everybody is still on whatsapp with some people switching to Telegram, some to Signal. It isn't a one-on-one switch like the switch from SMS to Whatsapp some years ago.
 
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