When I read this and the timing my first thought was "Marketing Sound Bite".
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App Store Stopped 1.6 Million 'Risky' and 'Untrustworthy' Apps From Defrauding Users, Says Apple
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When I read this and the timing my first thought was "Marketing Sound Bite".
Wake up people. Do you not find it odd that these bogus stats are published when Apple's App Store is being justifiably attacked by numerous governments and regulatory bodies?
More propaganda from Apple.
1. The entire top row is just from Apple's perspective. Apple's own rules being applied. None of it necessarily helped anyone but Apple.
2. The entire middle row is what banks and credit card companies are for. How Apple views this as their role is a mystery. But it gives them something to claim.
3. The bottom row is just business as usual, and is the kind of thing any store of this size is going to deal with.
1. The entire top row is just from Apple's perspective. Apple's own rules being applied. None of it necessarily helped anyone but Apple.
2. The entire middle row is what banks and credit card companies are for. How Apple views this as their role is a mystery. But it gives them something to claim.
3. The bottom row is just business as usual, and is the kind of thing any store of this size is going to deal with.
Just said exactly this on another forum. The numbers they are catching must mean the number they are missing is significant. Can we have a slide telling us all the apps and users that go through before you caught them?
Hello! I am interested in checking these numbers. Is there something I can do to verify Apple's claim? Or are we all just relying on what they say? Thanks!
I wonder how $1.5 billion in fraudulent charges prevented compares to the amount of money collectively conned from customers.
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Wow! Koolaid is extra thick in this thread.
All should keep in mind that for farrrrrrr longer than there has been an Apple App Store or even iPhone, a whole other line of Apple products have existed that- for that entirety of their time and up to the present- has had the ability to source apps from anywhere, buy bundles of apps from anywhere, download from the full spectrum of scrupulous-to-unscrupulous sources, buy direct from the CREATORS of the apps so that all 100% of the revenue can flow to the creator instead of having the first big bite right off the top taken by a distributor, etc...
And the devastation caused by the complete flexibility for users of those Apple products has been nothing like how some of us seem to imagine in this thread.
There also seems to be some kind of perception that offering the very same flexibility to get iOS apps from sources other than ONE means that everyone will HAVE to do so. Instead those so passionately worried... those practically demanding the world back off to preserve the SINGLE source option... could continue to load their own iOS devices from that single source... exactly as Mac people can do now if they want to exclusively source Mac apps through the Mac App Store.
Comply with global GOV demands- and that eventually become inevitable for any corporation- and almost certainly there will be some consumers making bad choices getting their iDevices compromised... just as there is some people making bad choices getting their Macs compromised. However, Mac shows how bad this is likely to actually be and those terrified of the flexibility to get their apps from more than one source could easily continue to get their apps from the same ONE source, never adding a hint of risk to their own experience if they believe the ONE is the one and only way to protect their iDevices from up to thermonuclear meltdowns, plagues and pestilence.
Look across the wall at Windowsland... where the level of threats, volume of viruses and trojans, etc is farrrrrrrrrrrr higher than Appleland and even there, the relative volume of users who suffer completely-destroyed lives because of consumer flexibility to shop from more than one store is relatively small. Else, those who did not die from their bad app devastation injuries would have already made the hop over to the safety & security of Appleland. Instead, Appleland continues to be only a tiny fraction of all computer buyers/owners.
I'm just about an Apple everything guy... but this whole thing revolves solely around DOLLARS. I very much appreciate the flexility to buy Mac apps from ANY source... including trying to pass 100% of the purchase to the CREATORS of such apps instead of only 70%. I very much appreciate the "bundle" opportunities to try a bunch of Mac apps for only a few dollars and wish the same was available for my iOS devices. I would like the flexibility to source iOS apps just like I source Mac apps... and expect the utter destruction spun and spun and spun again to be about the same as what I have already suffered with Mac apps for about 20 years now... with Windows apps for about 30 years now... etc. (which, if that confuses anyone, amounts to pretty-much NONE).
All should keep in mind that for farrrrrrr longer than there has been an Apple App Store or even iPhone, a whole other line of Apple products have existed that- for that entirety of their time and up to the present- has had the ability to source apps from anywhere, buy bundles of apps from anywhere, download from the full spectrum of scrupulous-to-unscrupulous sources, buy direct from the CREATORS of the apps so that all 100% of the revenue can flow to the creator instead of having the first big bite right off the top taken by a distributor, etc...
And the devastation caused by the complete flexibility for users of those Apple products has been nothing like how some of us seem to imagine in this thread.
There also seems to be some kind of perception that offering the very same flexibility to get iOS apps from sources other than ONE means that everyone will HAVE to do so. Instead those so passionately worried... those practically demanding the world back off to preserve the SINGLE source option... could continue to load their own iOS devices from that single source... exactly as Mac people can do now if they want to exclusively source Mac apps through the Mac App Store.
Comply with global GOV demands- and that eventually become inevitable for any corporation- and almost certainly there will be some consumers making bad choices getting their iDevices compromised... just as there is some people making bad choices getting their Macs compromised. However, Mac shows how bad this is likely to actually be and those terrified of the flexibility to get their apps from more than one source could easily continue to get their apps from the same ONE source, never adding a hint of risk to their own experience if they believe the ONE is the one and only way to protect their iDevices from up to thermonuclear meltdowns, plagues and pestilence.
Look across the wall at Windowsland... where the level of threats, volume of viruses and trojans, etc is farrrrrrrrrrrr higher than Appleland and even there, the relative volume of users who suffer completely-destroyed lives because of consumer flexibility to shop from more than one store is relatively small. Else, those who did not die from their bad app devastation injuries would have already made the hop over to the safety & security of Appleland. Instead, Appleland continues to be only a tiny fraction of all computer buyers/owners.
I'm just about an Apple everything guy... but this whole thing revolves solely around DOLLARS. I very much appreciate the flexility to buy Mac apps from ANY source... including trying to pass 100% of the purchase to the CREATORS of such apps instead of only 70%. I very much appreciate the "bundle" opportunities to try a bunch of Mac apps for only a few dollars and wish the same was available for my iOS devices. I would like the flexibility to source iOS apps just like I source Mac apps... and expect the utter destruction spun and spun and spun again to be about the same as what I have already suffered with Mac apps for about 20 years now... with Windows apps for about 30 years now... etc. (which, if that confuses anyone, amounts to pretty-much NONE).
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Not sure what you guys are talking about. I've never had an issue searching for a specific app. Which apps are you having a hard time finding? I don't get it.
So self serving of Apple. Looking forward to the day we can sideload apps.
This is what’s wrong with iOS. 1.6 million risky and untrustworthy apps didn’t have a fair chance to defraud users! 1.5 billion dollars, INSTEAD of lining the pockets of malicious actors are safely in the pockets of iOS users. This CAN’T continue if the goal is to make iOS as profitable a malware target as Windows and Android. (By the way, when communicating with people who actually don’t think malware is a good idea, refer to “sideloading”.)
#iOSNeedsMoreMalware
#iOSNeedsMoreMalware
These are like "Bezos charts" of old from Amazon
No way to verify or contextualize any of it
Just more Apple PR trying to scare folks into accepting their status quo
(that enormously benefits and advantages Apple)
No way to verify or contextualize any of it
Just more Apple PR trying to scare folks into accepting their status quo
(that enormously benefits and advantages Apple)
I find it hard to even comprehend the usefulness/need of that many apps, where some genres offer way too many to choose from. Its a bit like looking for parts at a junk yard at times. You might find what you need if your lucky, but navigating though that many is to what benefit?
Evidence against proposed EU intrusion ?
I still support alternative app stores but perhaps Apple does have a point that user safety and financial security could be compromised in certain Wild West alternative app stores where the operator isn't acting proactively to prevent or minimize fraud.
I still support alternative app stores but perhaps Apple does have a point that user safety and financial security could be compromised in certain Wild West alternative app stores where the operator isn't acting proactively to prevent or minimize fraud.
How much would you be willing to pay for that moderation?
They're just prepping for the EU regulation rebuttal. They must be anxious.
It's not a "perhaps." People take for granted and are unaware what Apple does behind the scenes.
This has been known for a long time to people willing to do a little digging on their own.
Tim should pay whatever it takes to properly screen the apps to back up his very dubious marketing spiels.
That's my takeaway also
The BS is coming from Apple pretty consistently of late
It feels like they have teams of people coming up with endless defensive strategies
But yet you're slyly suggesting they are by putting that doubt out there. With zero evidence. Clever.
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Just like Apple does when arguing in their own favor here
What BS are you referring to? Please be very specific and list.
If you don't trust Apple, why are you a customer?