Other Apple A13 What to expect? My Opinions.

Kaikidan

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2019 iPhones will come with the A13 chip (probably), talking in raw power we can expect it to top 17-18000 on geekbench, but... does this seen fearsible?

I mean, if you look at geekbench (I'm using this site for reference as it has a nice chart where you can easily see the evolution of the chips compared to antutu, for example) you can notice "evolution gaps" betwen devices, areas where the bar jumps to another "tier" and then proceeds to stagnate in the for some time, with little bumps in performance, then after 2 or 3 generations another huge jump in performance.

You can notice this pattern in multicore chart between iPad mini 4 and IPhone 6S, then later again at iPad 6th Generation and iPad pro 12,9 2nd Generation, and more recently between IPhone XS and the new iPad Pros. so it's safe to assume 2019 iPhones will have performance similar to those iPads.

But IOS as it is now already limits the new iPads pretty heavily, devices who are supposed to be power houses, those new iPads can run basically anything without dropping a sweat, they can run graphcaly intensive games without even getting warm, also, currently iPhones are powerfull enough to run virtually anything already without hiccups, so while it seens very possible to see 2019 iPhones with desktop PC grade processors, there seens to be no need for such huge power on devices so small and limited software wise. Will apple go and put a powerhouse inside the new iPhones, or will they leave the powerfull chips to iPad and use more low power options to the iPhone market this year breaking this gap that there was before for the first time?

So, For this year I see two possibilities for iPhones:

- Apple starts t make 2 diferent kinds of chip for the devices, iPhones will go to the 12-12500 tier in raw power and ve se a "horizontal improvement" (aka, better neural chip and quality of life upgrades while mantaining a low profile on raw power increment to preserve batery life) and the powerhouse chips goes solely to the iPads as a experiment on viability on the rumored macs with ARM Apple chips.

- Apple goes nuts and launches 2019 iPhones with chips topping 18000 on benchmarks, getting the same power as the "true pro devices with power to replace notebooks /s", and somehow manages to put all this performance on a smartphone without draining the batery dry.

Personally I think we will see something close to the first case, a more economic (both in terms of money and power hungryness) chip with 4 or 6 cores, running on slower clock but having great power consuption for devices with smaller bateries, maybe we'll se it topping 12-15000 on the chart, and the iPads 3rd generation pros will have an advantage in raw performance for at least one more year until 5nm process become more available allowing such performances with less power usage.


This wall of text is just my opinion and analisys on this matter as someone who likes to deal with software and hardware as a hobby and as a technology entusiast. I know that i'm not a specialist and probably I could be talking non sense, or stating the obvious, or anything in between. what are your opinions on the new line of iPhones, performance wise?


Sources:
https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks

https://www.androidauthority.com/apple-a12x-vs-a12-vs-huawei-kirin-980-924242/

https://www.notebookcheck.net/A12X-Bionic-vs-A12-Bionic_10881_10166.247596.0.html

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13661/the-2018-apple-ipad-pro-11-inch-review/4
 

Knowlege Bomb

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In short, I believe they'll continue on the path they've been following up til now. If they weren't continuously increasing screen sizes on phones to encourage mobile media consumption and gaming and we were still using 4 inch screens, the latter scenario would be more likely.
 

Falhófnir

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Since the A8/A9 it seems like Apple have a bit of a tick-tock strategy. The odd numbers give a big jump in performance, and the even numbers just improve upon the previous chip.

The A8 was a slight improvement over the A7, mainly focused on improving the GPU performance.

The A10 was a slight bump over the A9 (main cores) but also added the second lower power cores for efficiency.

The A12 is an efficiency focused (7nm) version of the A11 which really unlocks the potential to use all cores that the A11 introduced but was unable to maintain.

So I’d vote the A13 will be something relatively impressive on the performance front, though the days of 2x as fast are probably behind us now we’ve run into the exponential wall a bit.
 

djdsas

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I just want better battery life. My 7+ is more than fast enough. The processor is out performing the OS and applications. I don't need more performance I want equivalent A12 performance with better battery life.
 

JPack

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Everything points to 2019 being a year of efficiency gains.

- TSMC's 7FF+ uses EUV and is expected to bring 10% power improvements and 17% density, with no performance gains.

- ARM Cortex-A76 launched November 2018 focuses on power efficiency gains.

- Kirin 990 and Snapdragon 855 are expected to focus on efficiency.
 

nviz22

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Everything points to 2019 being a year of efficiency gains.

- TSMC's 7FF+ uses EUV and is expected to bring 10% power improvements and 17% density, with no performance gains.

- ARM Cortex-A76 launched November 2018 focuses on power efficiency gains.

- Kirin 990 and Snapdragon 855 are expected to focus on efficiency.
The A12 is so good that I would feel comfortable to use it for many years to come (assuming I keep my phone long enough lol).
 

Relentless Power

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Just for reference, the A12 processor was more in tune with performance with the HDR camera enhancements and for 60 FPS gaming, both of which I don’t care about, but two reasons alone for those who are interested in those factors that would consider the A12 capabilities. If you consider the HDR and 60 frames per second, that’s rather a decent upgrade over the A11 Bionic.