my entire life has been carbon neutral because the Pacific Ocean algae sequesters it....
Apple overstating their "carbon neutral" efforts for image and marketing purposes?
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Personally, I think the whole carbon offset market is just odd. However, I do enjoy a few extra dollars a month I receive from selling mine.Leaving aside all of those who come in with their own opinions on Apple or Climate Change or Carbon itself, the only real question here is whether these particular carbon offsets are legitmate. And if you haven't done the research, either way, opinions on the matter don't count for much, especially in a court of law.
People expect lawsuits and responses to lawsuits to have great impacts upon our lives. The fact is that these little lawsuits chip away at Apple's greed and send strong warning messages to Apple's competitors to also reduce their carbon footprints. It also pressures Apple to find new ways save energy and reduce carbon emissions through innovation, recycling and yes, market those efforts. Virtue signaling has always been an important factor in social change, even if the ones that signal the strongest are hypocritical in their signaling.This lawsuit is not worth its weight in carbon.
The lawsuit does involve Apple Watches after allgood lord, some people have got way too much time on their hands.
My Shakespeare is a little rusty. Do we have to look it up or are you going to add the quote?Shakespeare wrote it best:
Henry VI, Part II, act IV, Scene II, Line 73
That's kind of the nature of a carbon offset...
Virtue signaling has always been an important factor in social change, even if the ones that signal the strongest are hypocritical in their signaling.
Do you have specific knowledge of the two projects mentioned in the lawsuit? Because they are both certified by an independent association. And if you don't accept that accreditation, do you have a fact-based reason?No, carbon offsets are meant to sequester the quantity of of carbon dioxide a company is producing and this suit says the numbers don't add up. An established forest really doesn't sequester much of anything, comparatively. Tree's acquire the majority of their lifetime carbon in the first 20 years, regardless of how long they live.
No. These lawsuits tie up the courts for years and do little to stop apples greed. Nor would I want them to stop legal activities.People expect lawsuits and responses to lawsuits to have great impacts upon our lives. The fact is that these little lawsuits chip away at Apple's greed
It doesn’t do that either.and send strong warning messages to Apple's competitors to also reduce their carbon footprints.
It doesn’t do that either.It also pressures Apple to find new ways save energy and reduce carbon emissions through innovation, recycling and yes, market those efforts.
Virtue signaling is about talking to look good. Apple has a genuine interest in being environmentally friendly and neutral and has procedures in place to accomplish that.Virtue signaling has always been an important factor in social change, even if the ones that signal the strongest are hypocritical in their signaling.
Do have specific knowledge of the two projects mentioned in the lawsuit? Because they are both certified by an independent association. And if you don't accept that accreditation, do you have a fact-based reason?
If you haven't seen it, John Oliver did a video on his 'Last Week Tonight', show. Is worth a watch.Carbon offsets are used by a number of companies, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
I’m sure they do but this reminds me of that cringeworthy video Apple released a while ago with Tim Cook talking to Mother Earth.Apple has a genuine interest in being environmentally friendly and neutral and has procedures in place to accomplish that.
And by the same token frivolous lawsuits dont help the cause either. Just because one can sue, doesn’t mean one should.It being decades too late to slow down our spiraling destruction of the planet aside, anyone who thinks these companies are genuinely attempting to contribute to the betterment of the environment through factory production and consumerism have got another thing coming to them.
Did you forget to cite your own study, or is that the full text?No, they don't. Most people just don't say "I buy the worst thing possible because I want to burn down a rainforest." The vast majority say the socially acceptable thing, and then don't factor it in at all.