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however, as we all know, just because something is in a contract doesn't make it legal.
contracts can say anything they want, but that doesn't make everything it says legally binding.
Theft of intellectual property is universally illegal and bringing lawsuits against the idiots that do it are common. I realize it’s AntiApple popularity contest frequently here. Are you reaching much?
 
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Theft of intellectual property is universally illegal and bringing lawsuits against the idiots that do it are common. I realize it’s AntiApple popularity contest frequently here. Are you reaching much?

i think you're the one reaching here, for whatever reason only known to yourself.

The post you quoted was a reply to a spefic comment relating to contracts and clauses.
If you want to extrapolate that into whatever side agenda you want to push then fill yer boots.

Something to ponder though, in relation to your comments, Apple (and other large behemoths) regularly steal the intellectual property of others, so maybe what goes around comes around.
 
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What criminal charge would that be exactly?
You're ignoring that I said that the charges Apple will press depend on what their discovery reveals.

Based on the story he downloaded files without authorization/permission, copied them to an external drive/server, dented them from his work computer, and tried to hide the traces of his actions. So again, the charges Apple chooses to press will depend on what their further discovery reveals.
 
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You're ignoring that I said that the charges Apple will press depend on what their discovery reveals.

Nope. You said:

Liu is at the very least guilty of downloading data without authorization.

To be found guilty is to be convicted of a criminal charge, so I’m just wondering what criminal charge you mean by “downloading data without authorization.”
 
To be found guilty is to be convicted of a criminal charge, so I’m just wondering what criminal charge you mean by “downloading data without authorization.”

if it was in the UK it would probably be the Computer Misuse Act (1990) that would apply, in the US i guess the equivalent is the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA).

Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (US):
The CFAA criminalizes various computer-related activities, including unauthorized access to computer systems, damage to computer systems, and illicit trafficking in passwords. It was amended by the Patriot Act to include computers used by the U.S. government for justice, national defense, or national security.

this is all, of course, assuming there is any actual guilt. it's just an accusation at this point.
 
Nope. You said:
I said:

"Probably because electronic discovery hasn't been completed yet so Apple hasn't decided if they will press charges, and if so, which charges they will push for."

To be found guilty is to be convicted of a criminal charge, so I’m just wondering what criminal charge you mean by “downloading data without authorization.”
Guilty doesn't necessarily mean you committed a crime, if you lie to someone you aren't committing a crime but your are guilty of lying. He didn't have permission to download those files so at the very least he is guilty of unauthorized downloading of Apple's data and offloading that data to a personal drive/device. But since you are misconstruing what I have said, let me sum it up for you; the charges Apple chooses to press will depend on what their further discovery reveals.
 
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