They should. Then we can see how Spotify does without iOS users.
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They should. Then we can see how Spotify does without iOS users.
Ba ha ha... Music isn't a utility. There's a HUGE issue with comparing this to any kind of utility service. Utilities are regulated in very, very different ways than other transactions. What is against the law for a utility is often perfectly legal everywhere else. Be conscientious with those analogies.
call it a finders fee...like a travel agent that makes reservations for you...or a promoter that brings people into the club....
Nothing is stopping them from doing so yet they have not, want to venture a guess as to why?
I am spotify user and I like it better then Apple Music. But there is absolutely no freaking way I would move to Android just because of Spotify. I will simply live with Apple Music which frankly is not that bad anyway and it will only get better.
Spotify are essentially pissed at Apple because Apple can charge the same as them and profit (Spotify are not profitable). So they are attempting through the press to turn the media against Apple in the hopes some power-tripping politician (re FCC) will take their side. Beyond this, Spotify has three options: 1 grow their business to an astronomical size where they can profit. 2 Drop their free tier and try to convert some of those users to paid. 3 Raise the fee on their paid tier. 100M users without profit, something's got to give. The "free" tier longterm may prove unsustainable. As may Spotify's entire business.
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Why is it that I find it hard to believe Apple's side of the story? Oh yeah, they keep repeatedly poking customers in the eye.
That's what this all boils down to. How much of Spotify's subscriber base is attributable to iOS? I'm still not sure Apple should be taking a cut of a recurring fee especially when they're not providing any service outside of credit card billing (which Spotify would do themselves in the app if they were allowed).
Maybe they do take a 30% cut of every payment I make for Apple Music, you don't know.
I mean, all that would be is an extra few lines in their financials before the money all wound up in the same place... What was your point, again?
well, they found out that iTunes Store is failing, so now they are strong arming them out with their own service.
Or they could be like Netflix. It costs the same on the web and on the iOS App Store. Netflix is just eating the fee that Apple charges.
But I get the impression that Spotify is struggling financially... so that's not an option.
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You do understand that NO ONE HAS TO sign up for a subscription to Spotify from the App don't you? You can get the App on iTunes, go to Spotify and sign up and Apple gets nothing.
This shows a lack of understand of how software is sold today and the whole SaaS model.
If you're taking advantage of a great platform like the App Store, a 15% fee is reasonable.
Then what happens if they take nothing from certain apps and get hit by the "but that's unfair, do it for everyone" EU or DoJ? Then they make nothing on what could be a growing number of apps.
If I were a business, there's no other store I could go into and say, "hey, stock my product for free and you get nothing financially from helping me." Taking a 'cut' is a common business practice. This isn't a charity or non-profit people.
Actually, no. Apple wants 30% because they provide the means to distribute that app. They charge the same for the subscription as well. However, that amount will be lowered to 15%. You can still sign up for Spotify without iOS. NO one is stopping you or anyone else from buying an iPhone, or any iOS device. You don't have to buy it. However, since many people DO have an iOS device. And, Apple went thru all the trouble it making an App Store that's safe, secure, and touches EVERY iOS device. There is a cost to that, and Apple charges 30 f***ing %. Either pay it and move on or don't and lose out on hundreds of millions of customers.
Part of it is that they are providing the access to consumers who would in turn sign up for the service. In a sense it's what referral/finder fees are like.
It's a good part of it, I'm sure. And yes it is still considered part of the App Store. When Spotify releases an update, does it download directly from Spotify's servers? No, it goes through the App Store. Apple should get their cut for providing the avenue to acquire these paying customers, and provide the hosting and distribution of the actual app. Sure Spotify hosts the content, that's why they get the lion's share.
Should it be as high as 30%? Well that's a different story and they are clearly working on ways to make everyone happy having lowered the Apple cut to 15% after a customer has subscribed for a year.
But that's what the yearly developer fee is for, no? Seems to me this 30% fee is more about having access to a lucrative customer base than supporting App Store infrastructure and support.
All those citing Walmart analogy, if I buy a video game from Walmart and then go home insert the disc in my PS4 and buy additional content (DLC), should Walmart get a share of the DLC purchase?
So...what you're saying is Spotify has the right to complain when it piggybacks on the App Store and expects to pay nothing? You don't think Apple puts in the time, engineers, and cash to make the App Store what it is? How do you think Spotify got so many subscribers?