Why didn't you just say 01-present?
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Though I figured Apple already knew what it was that we wanted in the next iteration of the iPhone, it's comforting to see it officially and not just as a rumor.
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Apple Acknowledges Consumers Want Larger and Cheaper Phones
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Though I figured Apple already knew what it was that we wanted in the next iteration of the iPhone, it's comforting to see it officially and not just as a rumor.
Woo hoo! Sub $300 iPhones!
Wait... you think they latched onto that phablet nonsense?
I have 5 nexus phones and 2 Motorola ones I'd like you to meet, apple and samsung brainwashed the market
Do not want. Frankly, I was happier with the 3.5" screens. The 4" is tolerable but not preferable. Larger than 4" would be a pain. I've been on the upgrade every second year cycle since the first gen iPhone, but if they quit selling top-of-the-line models with the existing screen size, I'll go back to my pre smart phone ways of upgrading when it dies.
Apple should just put the phone app on the iPad mini for people who really want a phablet without ruining the iPhone for those of us who want a compact, one-handed device.
Apple should just put the phone app on the iPad mini for people who really want a phablet without ruining the iPhone for those of us who want a compact, one-handed device.
It's time for them to think completely out-of-the-box and delve into new industries. I could think of some things but then they may hire me as their consultant
Another thing that worries me about Apple is the apparent stand still in their software development. They really need to re-think their user interfaces especially on the iOS platform.
Both of your examples are a 'misuse' of the platforms and technology but that will always exist. I do know people that watch movies on their iPhones but these people do not own any other devices they could bring to bed with them and also fit in their pockets. The blackberry example sounds like a nightmare but I do the same when I have to use gotomypc app on my iPhone to control my Mac at work. It's inelegant at best but it does work in the end.
Some people value a singular experience with technology and it justifies thousands of dollars spent. Case in point, impatient travelers. They would buy a 500 iPhone because they love the OS and iTunes, etc. And when they're stuck in an airport, they will suffer through an entire movie on that small screen but to them it's a win. But I think most people nowadays just describe a 3 minute video as a movie so that's what you're probably hearing more about.
Over? They've got a while to go still. What makes you think it's almost over? They've got people hooked on these and they've got them replacing them every few years (if not more often).
I don't think the physical iPhone will be significantly changing anytime soon. It's a phone made by Apple and until we get collapsable/flexible screens, holographic displays or telepathic interface, I don't see huge changes. It's been pretty much predictable (baby) steps since we got apps. Siri was a big change in the interface options, but physically the iPhone didn't significantly change (changes the way I do things).
When did we get apps on the iPhone, the 3gs? The iPhone is quite a bit different when you compare it to then, but significant changes? Smaller, thinner, lighter faster, better screen, better camera, batter battery, etc. Mostly predictable next steps, right? Sure they can add some health option but it's not going to make it a totally different device (neither did better motions sensors or Siri).
Overall, it's still pretty much like the Palm OS phones from over a decade ago with years of improvement: smaller, faster, better screen, better camera, better touch interface (no stylus), WiFi (which some Palm models had), GPS (which was an add on for some Palm models, but not sure about the phone models).
Apple perfected(?) it and smoothed out all(?) the bumps and got it out there. Back in the day, I think it was helpful that it synced with iTunes, so if you had an iPod, this was a big bonus.
Just like computers and laptops have changed over the last 30 years, minor increments, but after enough increments, you do need to upgrade to keep running your apps and a current OS.
If you count these as $649 purchases (which Apple does, right?), I bet a lot of people have spent more on iPhones then they have on computers in the last 8 years (factor in lost and broken ones too); not MacForum people, real people. Factor in the iPad, iPad mini and iPod Touch (just extensions of the phone) and people replacing these items too. I think Apple still has a long way to go with this product line.
I still don't understand is why is an iPod Touch is $229 and an iPhone is $649? A nicer camera, GPS, cellular phone and the vibrator can't be $400+ more, can it? Even if the are they are year behind in the processor and other features (that's only a $100 difference, right?). (An iPad Mini Retina with cellular modem [no voice] and GPS is only $529).
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When will people realize they're not the only people in the market? Just because you prefer a smaller phone doesn't mean everyone does. The choice isn't a small screen or no screen at all, believe it or not you can have several choices. Apple is just starting to figure it out, offer two or three sizes and you can appeal to many instead of just one group.
I wonder how much Apple hates these Samsung trial leaks? This flow of internal info to the public has gotta sting, for such a secretive company. Hate to say it, but they reap what they sow with all these lawsuits. In a way I believe it hurts their brand a bit. Fangirls and boys (I'm one of them) like to think all is under control at AppleHQ, but this reality that they're worried "consumers want what we don't have" is definitely an eye opening statement.
IMHO, the solution is to release the new iPhone 6 asap, and in 3 different sizes to appeal to EVERYONE. And don't muck around with different internals either. Everyone gets the same chip! Release a 4", 4.7", and 5.5" at the same time. Drop the prices and simply use a "something for everyone" marketing campaign.
As for innovation, I'm sure Apple has new products to surprise us with (though a little more slowly these days). But this is about the iPhone, which is an aging product line. They need to shake it up pronto!
IMHO, the solution is to release the new iPhone 6 asap, and in 3 different sizes to appeal to EVERYONE. And don't muck around with different internals either. Everyone gets the same chip! Release a 4", 4.7", and 5.5" at the same time. Drop the prices and simply use a "something for everyone" marketing campaign.
As for innovation, I'm sure Apple has new products to surprise us with (though a little more slowly these days). But this is about the iPhone, which is an aging product line. They need to shake it up pronto!
Or phones, generally. It's almost as if the phone has evolved to meet homo sapiens' arrangement of ears and mouth.
Fixed.
Anyways, didn't we debunk the whole 64-bit only being good with 4 gigs of RAM thing?
Why is that unfortunate? If they keep the 4" screen iPhone and add an additional screen size, how can that be unfortunate? Don't customers want options?
Okay. And before the iPhone came out everybody was raving about the Motorola Rzr and clamshell designs. Does that mean that it was the right direction for a company to invest in?
So, I realize that a larger screen is going to increase production costs. But by how much?
Also, Apple is making MUCH larger margins than any of the other manufacturers. I would think they could redce their margin slightly and still come out way ahead of the game. Possibly even make u for it by converting so many android folks that the added sales alone makes a slightly lowered margin worth it.
Obviously just theory on my end. No need to quote this post with a snarky comment like (yes... I bet you are better at Apple's financials than Apple themselves). But who knows. Maybe I am. Turns out some kid just showed the US gov how to save hundreds of millions a year by changing their font. Who knew?
Also, Apple is making MUCH larger margins than any of the other manufacturers. I would think they could redce their margin slightly and still come out way ahead of the game. Possibly even make u for it by converting so many android folks that the added sales alone makes a slightly lowered margin worth it.
Obviously just theory on my end. No need to quote this post with a snarky comment like (yes... I bet you are better at Apple's financials than Apple themselves). But who knows. Maybe I am. Turns out some kid just showed the US gov how to save hundreds of millions a year by changing their font. Who knew?
Some Elephant sized hands you have there if you are able to operate the Note 3 one handed
For a company, you refer to Apple with the first iPhone?
Yes, that is my point. No issue witb Apple knowing what we want with that, as the first iPhone was not within our range of known devices, and as Apple had been designing it for a period, they do know everything about it. And its different, being touch, being the modern smartphone. Existing devices, no. Apple, or anyone else cannot and should not decide what we want, as these devices are known, so we can choose, and should. There is no magic formula that decrees what the perfect size is, as that is in individual choice.
Some Elephant sized hands you have there if you are able to operate the Note 3 one handed
Apart from the odd and dare I say it, understated exchange rate adjustment for us non US buyers, the outright price of the iPhone and iPad have been pretty much static over the years. A 4" iPhone 6 isnt much different to a 4.8" I would expect. Same parts, very few are any bigger. Plus they would make much more margin of a 64GB than a 16GB, so a lot of variables across the range, and 3.5 to 4 and 4 to 4.7 are just another variable.
Soooooooo? Apple has? what 15% of the US computer market? That makes up something like 10% of the current revenue?
Right now Apple has 40%? of the US smart phone market and you think they will be fine seeing that reduced to less then half of that? Your crazy!
Apple never wanted to lose the PC war and they don't want this to end up being the same thing.
Installed base matters...
Windows machines had more installed base=more programs...
Right now there are lots of iOS devices=plenty of reason to develop for iOS...
If the developers go somewhere else then down goes iOS...
Apple sees the trend of ending subsidies...
ipod=$200 mass market device
subsidized iPhone=$200 mass market device
unsubsidized iPhone=$600-700 niche product?
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Toyota makes roughly 70 times more in revenue than Ferrari, doesn't mean their cars are better.
They are better at MANY things...
Getting your groceries...
Loading your kids...
GROUND CLEARANCE
Just to name a few. Ferrari's could be way cheaper, but that wouldn't make them any more practical.
I robably wouldn't have said anything, but the sports car comparisons have gotten old lol.
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I am not sure I agree with this. Most countries outside the US never had subsidies anyway.
I think they will be fine! Remember when Apple was moving from 3.5" to 4" and how many did complain around here? Well, that is a history now. For them the 4" seem to be the ideal size for now.