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Apple Acknowledges Continuing Issues with OS X Mail, Offers Manual Workaround
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The only positive I'm taking from this story is that I'm not the only one still with this problem. Pretty poor to be not fixed by now.. I need to look into some alternatives...
Some more features that worked just fine before the update:
Rules still only work once in a great while for me and don't even mention the sound for new messages. That sound, if at all, can sound MINUTES after the mail arrived.
The worst new "feature": I send back-ups from my S4. APPLE MAIL sees these mails as sent by me, which is ok. So if I move the mail from the "in-box" to a folder all is well. By rule or manually works.
Actually these mails appear twice. Once in the "sent" folder and once in the "in-box". All this with google mail.
Now of course, I still have the original mail in the "sent" folder for some reason. If I go and delete these mails from the "sent" folder, they also "disappear" in the folder I moved the mails from the "in-box" to. Very cool feature
APPLE, thank you. Took me a while to figure out, where the emails went.....
Rules still only work once in a great while for me and don't even mention the sound for new messages. That sound, if at all, can sound MINUTES after the mail arrived.
The worst new "feature": I send back-ups from my S4. APPLE MAIL sees these mails as sent by me, which is ok. So if I move the mail from the "in-box" to a folder all is well. By rule or manually works.
Actually these mails appear twice. Once in the "sent" folder and once in the "in-box". All this with google mail.
Now of course, I still have the original mail in the "sent" folder for some reason. If I go and delete these mails from the "sent" folder, they also "disappear" in the folder I moved the mails from the "in-box" to. Very cool feature
APPLE, thank you. Took me a while to figure out, where the emails went.....
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I finally jumped ship too
I'm so glad I'm not the only one still experiencing issues with Mail. Mine has never been the same since upgrading to Mavericks last year. I've tried rebuilding mailboxes, reconfiguring, and every other little trick I know of that's worked in the past. Restarting Mail and/or restarting my computer does fix the problems temporarily, but they continue again after a few hours.
I finally bit the bullet and went to using Gmail full-time in my browser. After some growing pains, I've found it to be an amazingly versatile service. Now I know why so many people love it.
It does bug me having ads in my email, and I still prefer Apple's Mail interface, but this is 2014Apple should know how to make an email program that works.
Now that I use Gmail, I probably won't switch back to Mail, even if Apple finally does fix it for good. It's such a disappointment, as I really had become a power-user of Mail's smart filters and folders. Gmail does offer similar filtering, but I found Apple's to be more robust and I even had some unique systems for sorting mail.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one still experiencing issues with Mail. Mine has never been the same since upgrading to Mavericks last year. I've tried rebuilding mailboxes, reconfiguring, and every other little trick I know of that's worked in the past. Restarting Mail and/or restarting my computer does fix the problems temporarily, but they continue again after a few hours.
I finally bit the bullet and went to using Gmail full-time in my browser. After some growing pains, I've found it to be an amazingly versatile service. Now I know why so many people love it.
It does bug me having ads in my email, and I still prefer Apple's Mail interface, but this is 2014Apple should know how to make an email program that works.
Now that I use Gmail, I probably won't switch back to Mail, even if Apple finally does fix it for good. It's such a disappointment, as I really had become a power-user of Mail's smart filters and folders. Gmail does offer similar filtering, but I found Apple's to be more robust and I even had some unique systems for sorting mail.
Bizarrely I seem to have avoided all this and Mail is working just fine with my 2 zoho mail, 3 google apps hosted and 1 iCloud e-mail accounts all aliases and all my rules and complicated setups. Touch wood and be thankful for ones its not happening to me!
One could say that about iOS 7 in general, iOS 6 may not have been flashy or pretty but it was by far the most stable and reliable mobile OS
Apple QC has gone down the toilet
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I wondered how long it would take for someone to blame this on Steve. You made my day. Thanks!
I wondered how long it would take for someone to blame this on Steve. You made my day. Thanks!
You're too slow to realize I wasn't blaming jobs, just pointing out how far apple has fallen in terms of quality control
The true believers are prepared, it appears, to suffer just about anything and still take for granted they're superior to other technology consumers.
A buggy email client? IMAP? That really is extraordinary and no, it doesn't happen to everyone.
Can't say I disagree. Podcasts app became garbage with iOS7. Unlistened to episodes randomly disappearing and reappearing.
I had the force quit Mail problem until I deleted my iCloud account. Once I got rid of iCloud, Mail worked fine.
AOL keeps asking for me to enter the password. Fun to have to re-enter it several times a day even though it's saved to the Keychain. Not seeing issues with my other email accounts.
Mail has caused a majority of the hang ups for me for the last few versions of OSX, though Mavericks is what pushed it over the line. I now use Gmail in the browser. I was hoping for a streamlined version of mail when Mavericks launched. Maybe next year....
The only issue I have with Apple mail is that, when I put my Gmail account in it, it says I have two emails flagged when I have NONE flagged. It's annoying because I see that 2 and know its a lie! I've tried so many different things, including deleting the gmail account from my computer and readding it and nothing!
What's interesting is I'm having the exact problem -- emails not showing up unless I quit and restart -- with AirMaill.app. It's funny to hear my iPhone beep with a push to the Gmail app, but then nothing shows up on my desktop for minutes and minutes and minutes without quitting.
Which makes me think it is an issue either with Google, or some networking problem with Mavericks... I have strange behavior with web browsing since switching to Mavericks (randomly "stalling" of page loads), which makes me think it's the latter... definitely wished I hand't upgraded.
Can't believe this is not fixed yet, which makes me think there is a very hard to dissect bug.
Which makes me think it is an issue either with Google, or some networking problem with Mavericks... I have strange behavior with web browsing since switching to Mavericks (randomly "stalling" of page loads), which makes me think it's the latter... definitely wished I hand't upgraded.
Can't believe this is not fixed yet, which makes me think there is a very hard to dissect bug.
