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FatMax

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Jun 28, 2007
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Nearly a third of adults are afflicted with a chronic sleep disorder. If you aren't one of those you probably won't have much use for tracking your sleep. Of course you could have a sleep disorder and not know it.

Not trying to be a offensive with the reply here, but does the sleep tracking diagnose you then? Or do you show the data to a physician and they diagnose based on that?

Seems weird it's 1/3 with a sleeping disorder. That's a high number...
 

davidrpoliti

macrumors newbie
Oct 20, 2015
7
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San Francisco, California
I've had a beddit for about a year. Love it. Great HW. Stoked on this acquisition!
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Not trying to be a offensive with the reply here, but does the sleep tracking diagnose you then? Or do you show the data to a physician and they diagnose based on that?

Seems weird it's 1/3 with a sleeping disorder. That's a high number...

This is such a great question. People with sleep disorders can monitor their sleep quality and treatment methods without frequent sleep tests in a lab (expensive and inconvenient). Also, the home results can show trends, sleep tests in a lab cannot.
 

garya73

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May 12, 2013
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Delaware, USA
Not trying to be a offensive with the reply here, but does the sleep tracking diagnose you then? Or do you show the data to a physician and they diagnose based on that?

Seems weird it's 1/3 with a sleeping disorder. That's a high number...

CDC puts it at approximately 50-70 million adults.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm6008.pdf

That would be closer to 24%.

But most people report sleeping less than 7 hours, which affects a multitude of things, including your overall health. Not to mention the people who report falling asleep unintentionally.

Believe it or not, teenagers need up to 10 hours of sleep.

I have delayed sleep phase syndrome. I am at my most alert in the mid-afternoon but I can easily stay up to 2am without medication. Then I sleep for 8-9 hours which makes it tough to hold down a normal job. Thankfully I have an accommodation that allows me to start 3 hours after everyone else.

I bought one of these on a whim when the first came out, but honestly I never used it. I do hope Apple continues to support it and improve on it.
 

sonsofnarcissus

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May 20, 2014
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Future Apple Watch bands.

My thoughts exactly. Combined with the blood sugar monitoring technology they're allegedly working on, we will probably see some sort of Apple Watch Health band at some point. Apple Health Kit/Apple Health which integrates with all your Apple related devices is probably gonna happen down the road.
 

UltimaKilo

macrumors 6502a
Nov 14, 2007
941
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FL
It'll take them far far longer to build that in. watchOS 5 if we're lucky. Even then it's likely to be after that.
This. Likely we're looking at 2018/2019 to see this tech built into a Watch. Obviously the Apple Watch is still years away from being what it needs to be to become mainstream, but this is a good acquisition for Apple.
 

IJ Reilly

macrumors P6
Jul 16, 2002
17,909
1,496
Palookaville
Not trying to be a offensive with the reply here, but does the sleep tracking diagnose you then? Or do you show the data to a physician and they diagnose based on that?

Seems weird it's 1/3 with a sleeping disorder. That's a high number...

No, it's a good question. It isn't clear to me how this particular kind of tracking would help, though I suppose just knowing how much quality sleep you were getting would tell you something of clinical value. Also lots of people have sleep apnea and don't know it. They actually stop breathing. Pretty dangerous.

A huge number. About a third of adults with chronic sleep disorders of various kinds, is what I have read. If you have one you think you're practically alone, because it isn't something people tend to share, but then you talk to friends and find it's way more common than you knew.
 
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UltimaKilo

macrumors 6502a
Nov 14, 2007
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CDC puts it at approximately 50-70 million adults.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm6008.pdf

That would be closer to 24%.

But most people report sleeping less than 7 hours, which affects a multitude of things, including your overall health. Not to mention the people who report falling asleep unintentionally.

Believe it or not, teenagers need up to 10 hours of sleep.

I have delayed sleep phase syndrome. I am at my most alert in the mid-afternoon but I can easily stay up to 2am without medication. Then I sleep for 8-9 hours which makes it tough to hold down a normal job. Thankfully I have an accommodation that allows me to start 3 hours after everyone else.

I bought one of these on a whim when the first came out, but honestly I never used it. I do hope Apple continues to support it and improve on it.
What I do is wake up super early and exercise hard ( 2 1/2 hour swim or run) so I can be tired at a normal time. If needed, I have to take melatonin and other sleeping pills. I get you.
 

miknos

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Mar 14, 2008
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Cool would be to use data to measure when you're on R.E.M and play a sound so you can control your dreams!

*For the ones who don't know, search for Lucid Dreaming
 
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budselectjr

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Oct 6, 2009
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No, it's a good question. It isn't clear to me how this particular kind of tracking would help, though I suppose just knowing how much quality sleep you were getting would tell you something of clinical value. Also lots of people have sleep apnea and don't know it. They actually stop breathing. Pretty dangerous.

A huge number. About a third of adults with chronic sleep disorders of various kinds, is what I have read. If you have one you think you're practically alone, because it isn't something people tend to share, but then you talk to friends and find it's way more common than you knew.

You can use the data to track diet changes or see how different events effect you sleep and use it to discuss a plan with your doctor.

But yeah, a doctor is generally going recommend you go do an overnight sleep study to diagnosis most sleep disorders.
 

kevinh456

macrumors newbie
Sep 19, 2007
18
11
Cool would be to use data to measure when you're on R.E.M and play a sound so you can control your dreams!

*For the ones who don't know, search for Lucid Dreaming

It knows how well you're sleeping and does a sleep alarm. Doesn't do sleep phases, just how deep the sleep is based on respiration rate, movement, and heart rate.
 

Abazigal

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Jul 18, 2011
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This. Likely we're looking at 2018/2019 to see this tech built into a Watch. Obviously the Apple Watch is still years away from being what it needs to be to become mainstream, but this is a good acquisition for Apple.

The Apple Watch will ultimately be the only smartwatch to matter on the ios platform. It's all a matter of time.
 

andiwm2003

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Mar 29, 2004
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Boston, MA
wow. i had the beddit 3 for the past few month and it's quite good. the hardware is good. the app is stable but doesn't give enough access to the data. i hope apple doesn't screw this up and makes it a watch accessory or gives even less access to the detailed data (heartbeat, breathing rates, movements and all that).
 

szw-mapple fan

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Jul 28, 2012
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So once again Apple's privacy stance is exposed for the mullarky it's always been.
Beddit has been acquired by Apple. Your personal data will be collected, used and disclosed in accordance with the Apple Privacy Policy.

Which part of that makes you think Apple will be misusing customer data? Appel has had a very good track record of helping health data private.
 
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ClaytonK

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Apr 3, 2007
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I love my Beddit. I bought mine right before version 3 came out. So the email I received last week about the free upgrade was great. (Your Beddit will be retired May 11 | FREE Upgrade to Beddit 3).
My impression is that by knowing your breathing and heart rates Beddit can much more accurately determine your sleep state than apps like Sleep Cycle.
One of my qualms with Beddit has been that the alarm volume is tied to the system volume, so if I ever watch a quiet movie before bed I can barely hear my alarm in the morning. I'm kind of dumbfounded they haven't fixed that.
 

44267547

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The Apple Watch will ultimately be the only smartwatch to matter on the ios platform. It's all a matter of time.

As Far as I'm concerned, it's the only smart watch that matters on iOS currently. Any other smart watch other than the Apple Watch that could be used in conjunction with iOS, it's highly restricted of its capabilities and what it can do.
 

IJ Reilly

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Jul 16, 2002
17,909
1,496
Palookaville
You can use the data to track diet changes or see how different events effect you sleep and use it to discuss a plan with your doctor.

But yeah, a doctor is generally going recommend you go do an overnight sleep study to diagnosis most sleep disorders.

I honestly haven't found doctors to be very interested in diagnosing sleep disorders and the number of specialists in this area is very few. The general approach is to treat the symptoms.
 

Frank in NL

macrumors newbie
Oct 23, 2010
25
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NL
Is this auto detecting activity, or do you activate it before sleeping?
(there are some "situations", that I can imagine, where I do not want data being sent/stored/shared for analysis.)
 

MacOG728893

macrumors 68000
Sep 10, 2010
1,715
114
Orange County CA
Can anyone confirm if it works off Bluetooth? I started charging my phone in the other room to remove a major distraction before bed but lost the ability to use my sleep tracking app.

Thanks!
 
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