I think AAPL will go up and down, just like other stocks.
What's with people here ? Can't beat Apple and have to come here to vent and receive therapy ?
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Apple Acquires HTML5 Web Firm Particle
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I think AAPL will go up and down, just like other stocks.
What's with people here ? Can't beat Apple and have to come here to vent and receive therapy ?
Never said it was a bad idea to stick it out. And that's great it worked for you.
One thing though - we have no idea what the terms were or if they were offered any stock, etc. So the conversation around that is pretty moot.
Apple said they bought the company for the EMPLOYEES. If Apple didn't give them any money, there is no reason the employees would stay. Apple is smarter than that.
If they weren't offered any financial incentives, and the team chose to go Apple, it would mean the drive to work there is more fundamental. Few people are driven like that.
It's usually a combination of things that appeal to the people involved, plus a sense of adventure and chemistry.
As long as both sides benefit from the engagement, it should be great for us. It looks like Apple made some more good hiring lately.
Siri acquisition is a lot more complex, not merely for the talent. It's definitely more than just 2 guys though. Some will go for whatever reasons after completing their terms. Some will stay for their own reasons too. And some will leave and go back a few times. There is no hard and fast rule.
A lot of the NeXT people stayed for example.
Where did I say they weren't offered incentives? I just said we don't know what they were offered. Stock might not have been the incentive. Maybe it was a raise. Maybe it was new title and a raise. Maybe it was stock. Maybe it was a new car.
My original comment is something I still stand behind thought - not everyone is motivated by money. That doesn't mean they wouldn't stay. But it also doesn't mean they wouldn't leave either.
Where did I say you said they were't offered any financial incentives ?
So what if not everyone is motivated by money ? It's moot and irrelevant to the people involved. They pick their own future. If they do good work, feel free to stay for as long as they fancy.
not necessarily ... if Apple was going to hire the company anyway for a large contract that took up all their (Particle) human resources for years; then from an employee perspective it would be (roughly) the same work regardless if they were working for Particle or Apple.
Apple may sweeten the pot by adding incentives (so that the employees don't take-off before several years or complete of project).
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Glad someone else said it. I'd say that and be put in "time out" by the mods. Sheesh.
I'm still not quite seeing the benefit of HTML5 for one simple reason. Apple (Steve Jobs) doesn't like Flash because of it's poor performance. Completely understandable. But HTML5 has equally poor, if not worse performance for relatively uncomplicated things like video. Have you guys tried YouTube in HTML5? It's a disaster. Even on my rMPB the fans kick up and the computer struggles to run it. And it's not just YouTube, Apple's own HTML5 videos on apple.com frequently don't work quite right.
Apple treats its employees no different than any other corporation I have worked for. In fact in terms of treatment Apple is in my lower area. I worked both retail and corp. and I can tell you Apple retail is terrible as an employee. Low wages, high expectations, bad customers who treat you like trash, and managers who are all about bottom line. Standard retail stuff. Best Buy and CompUSA was a better experience in my retail job world than Apple was. Apple just paved the path for me to move onto bigger and better things.
You can't have creative freedom without money?
When did you make that up?
Van Gogh had no money and only sold one of his paintings.
The history of creative expression is replete with people who had little or no money.
Chances are that you have already benefited from HTML5 without realizing it. Flash can't render HTML.
YouTube's "disaestrous" HTML5 video problems are likely Google's implementation issues. Their Playstation one stutter like hell but NetFlix, Hulu Plus work fine on the same unit. They all use HTTP Live Streaming, like Apple. Flash videos are no different from the standard H.264 streams HTML5 uses. In the early days, Adobe was holding companies ransom for not porting Flash over anyway. And there were security and performance issues on the Mac while Adobe chose to focus more on Windows.
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Engineers is the lifeline of a high tech company. Apple treat them well.
Sales is a $$$ driven job anywhere in the world. Revenue target is the goal, and yes pressure can be huge especially near quarter ends. But it is mostly the same everywhere else, as long as you carry a revenue target.
When my [2nd] company was acquired in 2000, it was for the talent. We were thrilled because of the cash/stock but also because we had +more+ creative freedom from the larger sandbox we were able to play in. My partners next enterprise went through the same thing and again, acquisition meant more opportunity, more freedom..
Exactly our case, some cash, some bonus money for staying, some vestment contingent on X amount of time, etc.
I wouldn't sweat it It quickly becomes obvious who here to quack and who's where to contribute
Exactly our case, some cash, some bonus money for staying, some vestment contingent on X amount of time, etc.
I wouldn't sweat it
It quickly becomes obvious who here to quack and who's where to contribute Really? I haven't experienced that on my Mac Pro. The only problem I've had with HTML5 YouTube was that a good many videos hadn't been setup for it.
The main point of HTML5 is less video and more interactive elements. Flash is in many ways overkill from basic dynamic and interactive web pages. This takes it's toll on lower powered mobile platforms. The boom of purelly Flash based web interfaces in the late 90s early 2000s can now be down with HTML5 instead.
In short, Flash should never really be used for navigation UI, input UI, or information display.
An example would be the NOAAs animated radar imagery. It used to be a Java browsers applet. These days it's a Flash file. Much of what it does could be handled by HTML5.
Great post. Especially the BOLD section.
(We use the NOAA site quite a bit for tide/coastal weather info
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I'm an Engineer currently making about 15K more than Apple was offering me as an Engineer. Apple is not some generous employee loving company; they are a huge corp. that cares about nothing but making as much money as possible.
He loved tax loopholes too.
If they behave purely like a "maximize profit" big corporation, they will track the market rate. Otherwise, they won't be able to attract talents.
The acquisition of Particle, and the hiring of that A9 tech lead imply that they can be competitive.
Without knowing your experiences, who hired you, and what you did at Apple, it wouldn't be fair to say Apple underpaid you. For all we know, it is your stay in Apple that encouraged your current employer to pay more for you (after your relevant experiences there). Otherwise, why leave ? They have to sweeten the deal. People usually jump to a higher paying job next. ^_^
Everyone has their price. Anyone can be bought. Some people are just more expensive.
Exactly. The total benefits you get from any job is not just the dollar value of your salary. Excluding the additional stock, discount purchase program, bonus, time off, etc. benefits, you also must include the experience and opportunities that the job can open for you. Just having “Apple” on your resume can open a lot of doors. A lot of companies would be chomping to get an Apple engineer on their payroll…and pay nicely to make it happen. This can apply to many positions/companies.
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Not every employee gets millions in stock. I think that is reserved for the higher ups.