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Apple Acquiring the Majority of Intel's Smartphone Modem Business
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I did.
So perpetual ongoing services revenue vs limited lifecycle modem ROI. I concede.
Did you just respond to “it doesn’t appear to be a widespread issue” with “nuh-uh, there’s a white dude on YouTube with opinions!”?
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Did either of you guys read my previous post? The intel modem was tested and received 50-66% LESS signal than its Qualcomm counterpart.
That’s significantly less than the 5% differences or nearly equivalent performance you guys are claiming.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...e-modem-business.2191298/page-6#post-27572919
That’s the iPhone 7. The X and XS each have newer modems.
And even those won’t answer the real question: how will Apple’s modem, which is likely several years out, fare?
Which I would assume Apple will fix before shipping. And by owning the processor and the modem, they can now put everyone on the same die, or if not the same die, then in the same package, lowering power usage, latency and space requirements.
It’s also hard to quantify the value of Apple Music, since it’s the core service underpinning products like the Apple Watch and HomePod, and thus might be one of many key factors driving sales for these devices.
I am not sure if Apple Music is profitable either (Spotify certainly isn’t), but I suppose it has value in entrenching users deeper in the apple ecosystem.
This could be good news for Next Generation TV on iPhone in the United States. Apple has no cell phone network and owning its own modem architecture could allow it to easily employ ATSC 3.0 technology in iPhones than other manufacturers might fear too risky or have technology issues with. ATSC 3.0 is a technology that would fascinate someone like Steve Jobs or Steve Wozniak, but will non-product person bean counter Tim Cook see the opportunity to leapfrog other devices? I'd say doubtful as Tim Cook will immediately see it endangering Apple TV, which has so far been Apple's biggest long term "hobby", aka failure, in the company's history.
ATSC 3.0 will roll out in 2020 in 40+ cities in America offering FREE live TV in homes, cars or in any signal area. This has never been possible in America before. And it won't be in China, just America and South Korea to start, so which tech company will jump in first?
ATSC 3.0 will roll out in 2020 in 40+ cities in America offering FREE live TV in homes, cars or in any signal area. This has never been possible in America before. And it won't be in China, just America and South Korea to start, so which tech company will jump in first?
I don't have the link, it's been proven that they are similar, think 9to5/BGR or the verge had an article on it.
And again, not a lot of Europeans complain about it, your infrastructure is the problem.
That's ONLY Band 4 which is more commonly used in the US while the user ironically was claiming that "not a lot of Europeans complain about it". LoL
Anyway as pcmag stated:
Yes, we use many bands in the US, and performance may vary per band. But this testing alone took Cellular Insights a week to complete for us, and that's all of its time that we had.
Anyway as pcmag stated:
Yes, we use many bands in the US, and performance may vary per band. But this testing alone took Cellular Insights a week to complete for us, and that's all of its time that we had.
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A killer feature nobody else has, live 4K TV using no data anywhere, even where no cell phone or data service. As I've read it, the TV station industry is literally giving the ATSC 3.0 chips and tech away for free to encourage the usage too. This has a bigger upside than FM radio ever had. Plus its being designed to work in phones from the beginning, not an afterthought like FM.
Nah. I’m bringing in “it doesn’t seem to be a widespread issue”. Some guy with a YouTube account just doesn’t meaningfully add to that.
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Well, it does show that (on band 4, anyway) performance was measurably worse with the 7360 and 7480, but is now in line with the 7560. And maybe that’s the end of the story here: there were problems on the iPhone 7 and 8/X, but on the XS, it’s a non-story.
Which I would wager means: once Apple ships their own Intel-derived modem, it won’t be measurably worse than Qualcomm’s.
Other countries have had ATSC or some form of TV broadcast to cellphones for while. And it’s indeed a big hit in emerging markets as lota of folks have long commutes in public transportation or car drivers want to play videos on their car screens.
Maybe this new standard (ATSC 3) will launch first in US and S Korea. But the feature has long been a staple of car audio and Samsung phones everywhere.
LoL even the site that posted those graphs admired that well they are kind of pointless in making a general assessment regarding the phone's signal.
Yes, we use many bands in the US, and performance may vary per band. But this testing alone took Cellular Insights a week to complete for us, and that's all of its time that we had.
It's like asking somebody to analyze a country's economy but it only had time to find information about Agriculture.
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How do you know Intel Modem Sucks? Does it not provide the speeds that it is intended to work on?
LoL pcmag themselves admired that performance may vary per band, which is logical, that's why there are so many bands available in the first place.
They also clearly said that they didn't test more bands because they didn't have time, not because they believe there no difference in performance between different bands.
Well he definitely does, and based on the people I manage and devices I manage, I can say first-hand that the issue is widespread. But most people just think their carrier is to blame.
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Correct. However it's more about reliability than speeds. The speeds are not as good, that's true. BUT the main issue is simply the fact that the intel modems drop connectivity far more often. It's actually quite annoying. But everyone in the industry knows at this point, that Intel modems are sub-par.
In the US, why do you think few Europeans complain about connectivity, it's the providers, too little coverage.
Read the graphs, prove is there, they are just a tiny bit slower.