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Yes, I think the complaints are mainly coming from those of us who aren't in major US Cities and have suddenly found the maps less detailed and harder to read, our half-decent satellite/ariel views replaced by horrible fuzzy murk and the public transport feature replaced by 3rd-party plugins that don't exist, don't cover our area, have one-star reviews and/or cost serious money.

Thank you. A thousand times this.

I live in Japan, and we've lost pretty much everything that would make a mapping application useful. Unlike some people, I use (or used) Maps almost daily.

Even the ridiculously wealthy use public transportation here because it's faster. That's out now. There are no routing apps currently worth using, and of course they don't integrate with Maps. The infuriating part is that transit data is very easy to come by here. And it's not just a matter of plugging in two stations either; Tokyo has around 900 stations connecting 100 rail lines run by several dozen companies. Google Maps does a very impressive if imperfect job of figuring out the quickest route and cost (plus giving you several choices).

Beyond that, the stations are just wrong. I work near Tokyo Station. I can find problems with Otemachi, Ginza, Higashi-ginza, Ginza 1-chome, Kyobashi, Hibiya and Shiodome Stations, all within a brisk walk. Even if they were right, Google Maps shows exit numbers and names, which is almost universally where people meet up around here and necessary information for going somewhere new. The wrong exit can mean a 15-minute walk back in the other direction. And shucks, the stations don't even show up in Maps unless you're zoomed in extremely closely.

Street View is fairly complete and actually useful. Tokyo is full of narrow alleys and side streets, so sometimes it's easy to get lost without a quick glance at what the storefront looks like.

Flyover doesn't apply to Japan. Turn by turn is completely inapplicable for most travelers, at least because every car here has been equipped with superior and very localized navigation for years. Yelp is awesome in the US but hasn't reached Japan, although Apple could tie up with Tabelog and achieve the same thing.

Fact is, it's unusable for transportation (lacking public transit completely) and has near-zero reliability for place names. The latter will improve--or at least I hope, after submitting 20-some problems, some egregious, and seeing none resolved--but the former is an enormous flaw. In Tokyo it's inferior to paper maps right now as those at least have respectable data quality. And it's not like good data doesn't exist; there's a reason Google uses Zenrin.

For the time being, I have Google's webapp, but it's slower and a much weaker integration with iOS.

I understand for some people the new Maps works for their purposes and might even be better. Congrats. But here in Tokyo, I and many others are very frustrated, and these problems are definitely not "hype." To call these problems minor is just ridiculous. It's pre-alpha at best in countries like mine, and it's replacing a very mature product.
 
Didn't Jobs send a letter to Google (and maybe even other companies) shortly before his passing asking that they don't go recruiting members from eachother's teams for X amount of years?
 
Too bad I'm in grad school. I'm a GIS analyst/programmer and I'd love to work for Apple instead of reading hundreds of pages each week.
 
let's just hope apple doesn't get sued by google now.

seriously apple should be ashamed of themselves putting out a crappy product.

they thought they could make better maps than google. and they were wrong. so wrong.
 
This is 100% Apples Fault

That's a big fat 'maybe'.

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Shouldn't they have...you know...done this before they released the app? I know I'm not the CEO of a fortune 50 company, so I can't make a call from experience here, but it seems wiser to make your product as complete as possible before you release it, instead of giving it to everyone half assed then rushing to make it good after pissing everyone off.

I know. I know. There's a reason why I'm posting on Macrumors instead of being a billionaire. No one's going "Renzatic wouldn't have let this happen", or claiming I'm rolling in my grave whenever someone does something stupid. But...I dunno...it just seems like a better idea to me.

That's a great idea. Here's another great idea; if you're that unhappy with it, restore your iPhone to your last iOS 5 backup and be done with it.
 
My two cents: In Trinidad and Tobago Apple maps works just the same as Google maps. With google maps we didn't have the luxury of Street view, so I can't miss what I didn't have. Finding places is also horrible as though, typing IMAX and finding nothing. I know I live in a third world country and all but we're not that badly off.
I was sceptical at first, to upgrading to iOS 6 because of the maps but knowing now its the same as Google's is not bad at all. The only problem I have with the upgrade is the App Store it crashes a lot when I search for something. I just wanted say to everyone be patient I know all over the world it feels like a rushed job and it probably was but the only thing we can do is keep doing what we're doing here (complaining) and be patient.
 
Apple will either fix their problems or they will get out of the Map business. Frankly, it's not like Google Maps is perfect.

google maps isn't perfect. but it is useful and usable. apple maps is a waste and useless. i regret upgrading my ipad because of it.
 
Living in the Northeast US, street view is useful to my family in both situations. Roads up here were designed by horse drawn carts in the 1600s following even more ancient footpaths, and what little sense they might have made back then has been destroyed by centuries of construction projects :)

Like you, I use SV to preview what a city block looks like so I can better plan where to park, etc. I also use it sometimes when going to a new place in the countryside, so I know what the terrain and intersections look like. I don't need it, but it can save time.

For my wife, street view has been an utter godsend. Like many people, she cannot follow compass directions or distances, and even with a GPS she's nervous. So it's been immensely useful for me to be able to preview for her what each turn will look like on a new route, before she leaves the house.

Many people prefer knowing landmarks instead of street corners. So I am convinced that there's a huge untapped market for talking GPS's that say "Turn left at the Burger King you see just ahead" instead of "Turn left on Elm Street in 100 feet".

I've got two responses to this.

Firstly, women. :rolleyes:

Secondly, that's a very cool idea about adding landmarks to voice navigation. I prefer street names, myself, but still a neat thought.

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google maps isn't perfect. but it is useful and usable. apple maps is a waste and useless. i regret upgrading my ipad because of it.

What I said above applies to iPads, too. Restore it back to iOS 5.

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My two cents: In Trinidad and Tobago Apple maps works just the same as Google maps. With google maps we didn't have the luxury of Street view, so I can't miss what I didn't have. Finding places is also horrible as though, typing IMAX and finding nothing. I know I live in a third world country and all but we're not that badly off.
I was sceptical at first, to upgrading to iOS 6 because of the maps but knowing now its the same as Google's is not bad at all. The only problem I have with the upgrade is the App Store it crashes a lot when I search for something. I just wanted say to everyone be patient I know all over the world it feels like a rushed job and it probably was but the only thing we can do is keep doing what we're doing here (complaining) and be patient.

Yes, let's complain some more. :rolleyes:
 
I am not sure what people are bitching about. If google map turn by turn navigation it didn't exist for ios before. Waze and current ios does it quite well. Map? You mean there are people who really look at map from your smart phone? For what ?? It's far more productive to study map from your laptop or bigger screen. And in that case use google map for now. So what's the problem??
 
Detroit area here. Just checked and I thought this isn't bad.
Then I noticed it has the gas station across the street and the one a mile away switched.
That's bad.
A map that's not accurate is a bunch of scribbles.
 
It will take more than hiring Google's leftovers to get the job done. Why even bother instead of adopting the far superior Google maps?

I love the vector maps. There's absolutely no way in hell that would have been possible if Apple continued using Google Maps.
 
I was talking to my Grandad today, in a busy shopping centre. He looked at me wistfully: "You know, son," he whispered: "When I was a lad, all this were fields."

Sure enough, I checked Apple maps, and he was right! ;)

Good one. Apple's maps look like the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree before they put on the lights and decorations.

There's no way Apple can come up with a quick solution unless there's some other company out there that has a map dataset that's equal to Google's and they're willing to be acquired. Apple on its own doesn't have enough employees to throw at an intensive Map project. It's hard to believe that nobody at Apple noticed how empty their maps looked compared to Google's or anyone else's maps. Old datasets with missing streets really just doesn't cut it. There has to be some company out there other than Google that's continually updating datasets with newly constructed streets (within the last six months). Apple can damn sure afford it. If it takes money, there is no excuse for Apple to play the cheapskate in this case.
 
It will take more than hiring Google's leftovers to get the job done. Why even bother instead of adopting the far superior Google maps?

Licensing agreements my friend. Ever wonder why iOS didn't have turn by turn? Its because Google won't license it. You can't just adopt the "far superior" maps because then you end up with what we had prior to iOS 6, Android running around going, "What your phone doesn't do turn by turn? Sure mines a piece of crap, but it does that!" Apple got tired of that and decided to build their own maps app so eventually their users would have a better solution. Damn you Apple for trying something and not being perfect at it!
 
There is a street built 2 years ago around my house and Maps shows it as an open field. There was no problem finding it before iOS 6. And this is in the US.

Around your house doesn't tell us much, closet Fandroid, list the place so we can see for ourselves.

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Shouldn't they have...you know...done this before they released the app? I know I'm not the CEO of a fortune 50 company, so I can't make a call from experience here, but it seems wiser to make your product as complete as possible before you release it, instead of giving it to everyone half assed then rushing to make it good after pissing everyone off.

I know. I know. There's a reason why I'm posting on Macrumors instead of being a billionaire. No one's going "Renzatic wouldn't have let this happen", or claiming I'm rolling in my grave whenever someone does something stupid. But...I dunno...it just seems like a better idea to me.

Half assed is a bit of a stretch, but think about it. Do you think they've got a guy that searches every street and every business encompassing the entire earth? Google didn't release their Maps with complete global perfection. Hell, prior to Apples maps there were tons of people complaining about it. I was one of them! I had to use it all the time, as my job took me to different cities almost every week. There are plenty of things missing from them and they've had a 7 year head start. Talk to me in a year.

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Plain and simple, Apple should have waited before releasing their maps to the public. It isn't finished yet! Now they're scrambling to finish it because obviously people are going to notice its defects. But Apple can get away with doing this because of the crazy demand for the new iPhone.

Plain and simple, a good maps app will never be finished. Things are constantly changing my friend. So scrambling to finish doesn't make any sense. And I'd argue that the crazy demand of the new iPhone is the actual reason why Apple is getting blasted.
 
IMO, the failure of Google Maps, and this scrambling by Apple to try to fix the problems, falls on the lap of Tim Cook. Sure, there was a guy actually leading the Maps group (Tim Forstall? not sure), but you need a guy at the top that can lay out the strategic vision and make sure it gets executed well and on-time. Cook is a fantastic operations guy, but I'm losing faith that he is up to the task of being an Apple CEO. He's not a product guy, as Jobs admitted in his bio.

Personally, I think Jony Ive should take over as CEO and Cook should move back to the COO position. This would put the person who is closest in mindset to Jobs creatively in a position to shape things. And he could help to get rid of the tackiness of software which Forstall has really ramped up since being given free reign. I think Ive would've busted balls to make sure Maps went out the door as something Apple could be proud of. Cook doesn't seem to be that guy.
 
Maybe they should have actively recruit ex-google maps employees before they rushed out with their own half-ass of a map.
 

Problem is that google maps was short of information SEVEN YEARS AGO! It is 2012 now, and apple is trying to compete with Google. Why would you release an app not on par or CLOSE to google maps 2012 information?:confused:

THis shows the arrogance of apple, they should of just paid google whatever the amount and then spent the next 4 years behind closed doors making there maps perfect, meanwhile customers would still have a fully functioning map app.
 
They need to take 1% of their bank account and buy some decent new high quality maps to begin with. Feels like the maps are from over two years ago. And the picture quality is sub par :(
 
Map? You mean there are people who really look at map from your smart phone? For what ?? It's far more productive to study map from your laptop or bigger screen. And in that case use google map for now. So what's the problem??
I think you forgot the /sarcasm/ tag.
 
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