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Apple Adding Late 2012 iMacs to Vintage and Obsolete Products Pilot Program at End of January
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You are dealing with a corporation that does not care for us. They only care about $$$ and new products.. I have a 2012 MacBook Pro non-retina 15 inch and a 2010/2012 Mac Pro which is better than the Trash can.. Apple can wipe its butt with its obsolete and vintage policies ! If its not broken, don't fix.. If the machine does what you want, then its not obsolete or old.
Having said that, I ended up salvaging an i7 3.4ghz quad Intel processor of which I hear is still pretty well regarded nowadays. Might build a Windows ATX, just because.
Apple’s hypocrisy is becoming more and more noticeable.
Lot of assumptions there.
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I was just thinking this the other day.
No, there are no general laws in EU countries AFAIK that requires companies to make parts available for a set amount of time for all kinds of products and certainly not for 7 or 10 years.
EU countries has warranty laws but they are usually for 2 years and those are not the same as a right to get a repair. There are other ways to fix a problem with a product than to repair it.
Apple forcing yet more iMac owners to toss their Macs in the trash. Great for the environment!
Mine too. The only problem I have is that Apple don't make anything I'm interested in buying anymore
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You can still use them if they still run. Apple has a recycling program so no need for old electronics to go into the trash. They talk about it lot but perhaps you missed it.
I think 7 years of official support is pretty good TBH. How many Windows machines from 2012 are still supported by the manufacturer? These machines don't stop working at that mark. My 2011 MBA is slow but still works just fine.
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You must be looking at a reflection in your monitor of your iMac that imploded upon landing on the unsupported list.
It's 5 years after discontinuation, not launch.
The Late 2013 iMac was sold until October 2015 (Late 2012 until September 2013), so yours will be supported for about two more years.
OS update support probably even longer though.
Unlikely, I believe that Apple will keep the same requirements for 10.15
About one more year. Late 2012 Mac mini was discontinued in October 2014. Late 2012 iMac was in September 2013.
RIP cheesgrater Mac Pro
The trash can will be following on next year...
But they still hold up in today’s market lol!
No, of course not! Why do people assume that?
Devices become vintage/obsolete 5 years after they had last been sold.
So even if the "trash can" was discontinued today, hardware support wouldn't end before 2024.
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Easy; They won't.
Why would they?
They only drop OS support either due to performance considerations or when there's major hurdles to overcome to continue support for devices that are too old to justify the effort.
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Y'all seem to be missing the last part of the article:
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Bullsh*t.
Vintage/Obsolete status doesn't mean sh*t about OS support.
I expect all Ivy Bridge machines to be supported by 10.15 next fall. Perhaps even longer, who knows.
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Well, there are two ways actually they can go about this. Either by killing off a whole family of Macs because of their WIFI chipset (this happened with the 09 Mac mini, Mid 07-Early 09 iMac, 2008 AL Macbook, 2008-2009 MBP, 2008-2009 Mac Pro) which was the BCM94321/94322. The oddball out was the white 2009/10 Macbook because it had the BCM94331 which was new at the time. This allowed it to run up to High Sierra. The next oldest WIFI chipset is the BCM94331 which is used in the 2012 iMac, 2012/11 Macbook Pro 13&15" and retina 2012, 2012 Mac Mini and 2012-13 Macbook air. The 2013 Mac Pro/2013 iMac uses the Newer BCM94360 so it is excused from this new limitation. I think Apple will take this route in either 10.15 or 10.16, however they will be breaking their 5 year OS update support for the 13" 2012 MBP.
The next possible option is limit the Mac based on Metal API support, they could require 10.15 (most likely 10.16) to only allow macs which support Metal 2.0 or newer(?) Macs with Keplar GPU's and HD 4000 only support metal v1.3 which a chart can be seen here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metal/mtlfeatureset about which Macs support what version of Metal. But again the 2013 Mac Pro is on the version 1 list but should be kept supported till 2024. So i'm leaning towards the next cutoff for Macs being the BCM94331 chipset being the next limitation for the next OS.
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huh?
How about that, you had one confusing post, and then proceeded to double down on that confusion with this post.
Well played ... I guess?
You mentioned a pic of a torn apart Mac in my post. I thought you were trying to be funny so mine was just a reply to your weird question. But perhaps you're seeing things that aren't there as there was no photo of any kind in my post.
Edit: Did you mean Post #79 that was made by someone else? Perhaps you should be a bit more careful who you quote-reply.
Dammit you’re right. Not sure how I screwed that up. Serves me right for being raging drunk while trying to post on Mac rumors.
They want to sell you a new Mac instead of being able to repair your old one.
My late 2012 iMac is still going strong & I've not had a single hardware related issue. I'm sure now it's obsolete macOS 10.15 which will be released late this year will see to it that it suddenly becomes unreliable & unstable.