Yeah they decided to wait +/- a year before throttling them, wait for the batteries becomes bad, and avoid mass battery replacements that way, and at the same time advertise(Wohhh, amazing, genius, unbelievable) how fast iPhone XS or XI is.
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Apple Addresses Alleged Throttling of iPhones With Degraded Batteries
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What a punch in the face. So, the fact that the AXX SoC is basically too fast for any app to use fully at launch means absolutely nothing, as by the time the apps catch up the SoC will be throttled down "for power management purposes".
The statement that "they will continue to roll it out" is very telling. Planned obsolescence at its finest.
What an absolutely unscrupulous, cynical company.
The statement that "they will continue to roll it out" is very telling. Planned obsolescence at its finest.
What an absolutely unscrupulous, cynical company.
That’s why it’s called an analogy. For argument’s sake, let’s say you are out in the wilderness with no access to replacement tires, nor is there anyone to fault you for driving more slowly. Your only options are to continue driving at top speed with compromised control of your car, or slow down in the name of safety. Clearly, each choice has its pros and cons but one is probably more desirable than the other.
Actually it's more like if you were low on gas and your car wouldn't allow you to do more than 40mph even if you wanted to go faster.
Introducing A12 Super-Bionic. The most powerful* and smartest chip ever in a smartphone, with a neural engine that’s capable** of up to 1200 billion operations per second*** (****)
*For the first year only. After that it is equivalent to the A5 series CPU
**As long your battery works
***(repeat) As long your battery works
**** These suckers fall for it every year
Tim Crook!
*For the first year only. After that it is equivalent to the A5 series CPU
**As long your battery works
***(repeat) As long your battery works
**** These suckers fall for it every year
Tim Crook!
"Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products in the future."
So if I bought a brand new iPhone 7 today with the latest 11.2.1 OS, it would be eligible for throttling from the get go. How is that right? If there should be a problem with the battery, would it just throttle down? Great. Really. Great. One might say Amazing. Possibly Fantastic.
So if I bought a brand new iPhone 7 today with the latest 11.2.1 OS, it would be eligible for throttling from the get go. How is that right? If there should be a problem with the battery, would it just throttle down? Great. Really. Great. One might say Amazing. Possibly Fantastic.
Don't think there's anyway a device the size of a iPhone can have a 10,307mAh battery like that in an iPad Pro. There simply isn't enough real estate. That being said, I think the system should just pop up a warning of a degraded battery, then offer the option of throttling. If that happened with my 6S+ I would just get a new battery. That still doesn't address overall battery life of some iPhone models being deficient. I do like the fact that I can rotate my user replaceable batteries for my LG V20, and the batteries only run around $20 each.
this tells me there is an issue
to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down
Sigh!!! I have some weird issues with my iphone7 7 plus; random shut downs and restarts. And this all happens when my battery says it is at 100%. After the restart the batter power reading it's at 10%. Restart it manually it then tells me it's back at 100%. Even when it is continuously restarting there is always a different battery power percentage. I can hardly use the phone for 5 minutes ..... for the phone to be operable, It has to be on constant power. The terrible thing is that apple don't offer their services in my country so I ordered a battery replacement kit frrom iFixit so I can replace my battery myself. The good thing is that I did get the notification that my battery needs servicing after I installed iOS 11.2.1
But but but Apple make processors so much faster than Snapdragon!
Not much point if they can't use all the cores after 12 months....
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Courageous.
But does the car manufacturer not allow you to get new tires (new battery) saying they are fine and you just have to drive slower? That’s basically what Apple is doing by saying the battery is fine and not replacing even at the OWNER’S COST.
Translation
"Oh bugger, they are on to us. These batteries suck! But a recall will costs millions! reducing the CPU speed stops the iPhone turning off randomly. Let's do that. No other Li-ion device does this, lets put a PR spin on in and turn it into a feature! It's the battery tech, we aren't going to implement this fix on apple watch, macbook, macbook pro just the iPhone. That way these guys will buy a new one every year! To hell with it, lets do the apple watch as well and sell some more of those!. Why aren't those series 0 guys upgrading!
Release the fix! now!. One guy had a macbook for 5 years. That's out of order! Patch it now! Call it bug fixes when actually it will slow that macbook down to the ground! $$$
"If it’s tied to battery health, the throttling likely won’t kick in right from the start. Likely much later as the battery starts to wear down.
Here is what John Gruber has to say on the issue.
https://daringfireball.net/2017/12/iphone_battery_throttling
Because we are now finding out about decisions apple is making for us that actually look more like a cover-up for the performance of their product.
just one more reason why I despise Apple these days. My 6s has been horrible the last year and iOS 11 is garbage. Now I know why, evven though my Battery tests say everything is fine. Between this and so-called Apple Support bricking my 2012 MBP, Im done with Apple. I have a 2015 MBP and Atv but Im seriously thinking about selling my 2015 MBP and just taking a hammer to my 2012 - so upset they won't take responsibility for breaking it simply because I upgraded my HD 3 yrs ago. Fact is the system was fine until they replaced the airport card. Now my drive is broken and the aholes have the gall to blame the drive. Steve Jobs’ Apple would have taken responsibility and made me whole again.
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On this forum. Uhm, yeah. Many on this forum would buy it. They'd even stand in line. They'd buy the earbuds, the big memory, the screen protector, the external charger. All of it, as long as it has an apple logo on it. apple is god. apple is god. apple is god.
I wonder how long Apple continues to manufacture batteries for older phones? The "new" battery you bought may have been sitting on the shelf for years. Li-ion batteries can degrade considerably in several years time even unused. I still have a 2006 MBP which still runs as long as it's plugged in. Those still had user replaceable batteries, and I replaced mine 4 times over the years. I finally stopped doing so when I noticed the replacement batteries were no longer holding decent charge. The batteries were old and are no longer being manufactured.
I agree with you completely. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this site, but I don't trust Apple or Tim Cook at all. (nor do I blindly trust any other company). There is either a serious design issue or this is total BS. I've never heard of any other computing device that the company programmatically slowed down when new software releases came out. Throttling for overheating possibly is the only thing I've seen on other platforms. Why would it unexpectedly shut down unless there is a design issue?
What a joke what this Gruber guy is writing.
We are talking about one year old phones here.
They all use the term “older” to suggest we are talking about some kind of legacy devices.
And what is especially bad about he article: he also acts like there is only a choice between the phone shutting off or the processor being slowed. How about replacing defective batteries?
This want an issue before the iPhone 6
If you are in the wilderness in this situation you have to stop driving. Although why you would head off into the wilderness knowing that your tyres were close to the legal limit is beyond me. Your pro Apple analogies to suit your point are getting more and more bizarre.
Perhaps this is a good reason and timing to have a real "dark mode" in iOS 11. Saves the battery and easy on the eyes. It's funny that some apps are doing this on their own yet Apple/iOS 11 does not truly have it (Invert colors is not the same). Apple, give us that option please.
That would actually make you in the majority here on this site.
This.
Notice how this post is ignored. People here would be ripping Samsung apart.
I like this analogy...to add to this, you can't see how worn the tires are and you have no knowledge that worn tires cause your car to lose some of its control. You go to the manufacturer and they run their test and say the car and tires are fine. Your car becomes so uncontrollable you decide to upgrade to the 2018 model because you think your previous car is just old / outdated.